Offseason Thread - Betty when you call me, you can call me Al
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Pelinka'd
thats funny
its unbelievable the Lakers are a fucking shit-show but it doesn't matter
thats funny
its unbelievable the Lakers are a fucking shit-show but it doesn't matter
I don't really see the point of chasing Bamba. He's probably a push for me relative to Robert Williams as a prospect right now, and it's tough to find developmental minutes for both guys. Obviously wouldn't say "no" to him, but presumably as the 6th pick last year, they're not about to give him away either.
I guess two readings. Yes, one, a shit-show but he knows he's signing there so wants to be with those he considers responsible. Just as possible is he/his team have such little respect for the Lakers' shit-show that no way he's signing -- this is just to let Buss and Magic know what the deal is.
Hell...I dunno. I do know Pelinka seems like a first class douche, so glad to see him humiliated like this -- "hey yeah lil mr gm man...you just go over there while I talk to people I respect"
obviously to discuss cap strategy...Rob isn't any help, so Magic, Jeannie and Linda will handle
DING DING DING DING.
The source of this was Magic.
I’m not sure how to embed tweets but SAS reports this...then Magic calls Ramona Shelburne who tweets out Magic says he can’t but that Kawhi requested it. Magic really is unbelievable
How does Buss exclude her GM from the meeting, while at the same enabling Magic?
Fascinating and hilarious stuff.
The back-stabbing continues.
Fascinating and hilarious stuff.
The back-stabbing continues.
And after he gets his meeting, then want? Shouldn't he also want Pelinka fired? How does he sign with the Lakers if Pelinka remains as Gm? ANd if the Lakers fire Pelinka, what message does it send to the rest of the organization about Kawhai's status?
Seems like a heavy handed and counterproductive move.
Meeting only with Magic and Jeanie would make sense if you have reservations about the Klutch influence on the team. The optics are that Rob works for Rich Paul and Lebron.
33 minutes after the term "Magic-Buss meeting" is used, and this still hasn't been posted? Let me rectify that situation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl9bvuAV-Ao
Funny thing is more guys should ask for meetings with the owner. Ownership is incredibly important, GMs and coaches are easily changed, and bad owners kill the benefit of even the best GMs eventually.
I would guess his people asked for Magic, we all mock him but players hold him in really high regard
I agree that players likely hold up Magic as a God even if he's been a buffoon as a sports executive. But doesn't Magic immediately leaking this send a signal to the buttoned down Kawhi that...this guy is not a reliable connection?
And yes to the Magic Bus....just need some liberal doses of mushrooms on that magic bus to make it all perfect. Crazy.
And yes to the Magic Bus....just need some liberal doses of mushrooms on that magic bus to make it all perfect. Crazy.
If you're an owner and you say yes to this request, you may as well fire your GM now, since you're permanently neutering him.
well...they (Buss/Rambii) already effective overruled Pelinka on hiring Lue (even after an offer had been made they refused to pay Lue the going rate in years and $) -- so I think Lil Rob has accepted his fate and Buss is comfortable with the little madhouse she's running.
I used to make the joke often when Magic played, but of course Who references are always welcome.
My most fervent prayer is that Kawhi tells them “I’m only going there if you guys trade LeBron” and for the Lakers to send him back to Cleveland. That would make this the greatest offseason ever. Evah. In any sport.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1144778968803008514
KD's list in GS/BRK/NYK/LAC... it almost certainly won't happen but KD and Kawhi on the Clippers, and LeBron and AD on the Lakers, fighting for LA supremacy would be pretty fun
KD's list in GS/BRK/NYK/LAC... it almost certainly won't happen but KD and Kawhi on the Clippers, and LeBron and AD on the Lakers, fighting for LA supremacy would be pretty fun
https://twitter.com/MarcJSpearsESPN/status/1144805586111832065
Wow, Collison decides to retire at 31, passing up at least an 8 figure per year according to Woj.
Wow, Collison decides to retire at 31, passing up at least an 8 figure per year according to Woj.
To focus on his Jehovah’s Witness work? Wow. Interesting, to say the least.
Or threw a lob?
I could see a team wanting 1) to avoid having to go through the offer sheet process, where the Celtics get a window of time to decide whether to match, and 2) wanting to act quickly rather than waiting for the Celtics to formally renounce. I can't see a team offering up a significant asset for either of those, but I could see a team offering up a nominal asset (like the Danny Ainge special aka top-55 protected second).
https://twitter.com/murf56/status/1144980553395036161?s=21I’m more than OK with this if it means no more rumors involving Marcus. There’ll be plenty of cheap, serviceable bigs, but there’s only one Smarf.
D'Angelo Russell to take a meeting with T-Wolves.
https://twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes/status/1145018267737575427
https://twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes/status/1145018267737575427
I don’t want to lose smart either but I think we need something better than a serviceable big as a starting center.
That said, I think there will be other options that are slightly cheaper out there
Aren’t they already over the cap? Per basketball-reference, they have $110 million on the books for this coming season, cap should be at $109 million. They’d need to either dump some real salary or work out a sign and trade with Brooklyn. KAT has apparently been banging the drum for them getting Russell, so they’re certainly motivated to try.
I generally agree but I also think that if we go into the season without at least a middle tier C we are going to be destroyed inside. We likely won’t be playing with a traditional 4 as it is
Yes, but there have been rumblings of a Wiggins salary dump, which would make it work. My dream scenario is Brooklyn striking out on everyone except Kyrie and making a D-Lo for Wiggins sign & trade. The Brooklyn Drews would supply us with hilarity for years to come. In reality, though, I could see the Kings sacrificing their available space to take a flyer on Wiggins.
Wiggins is set to make $33.6 million in 2022-23, if they can dump him on another team to sign Russell, that’s Executive of the Year worthy (unless the Wizards can similarly get out of Wall’s deal). Even for Divac, taking that on would be something.
The Celtics aren’t competing for a title next year, all they want to do is make the playoffs so that Tatum and Brown get their chance to sink or swim.
Making short term deals to plug immediate holes is how you turn into the Charlotte Hornets. It’s why everyone now rooting for Boston to trade Brown for a C patch are going to be disappointed. Boston’s timeline got forcibly reset into the mid 20s thanks to last season’s dysfunction. Brown is likely to survive (as a Celtic) because he’s got a talent for networking with the younger players.
I mean this sounds good in theory, but the reality is that Sacramento is the armpit of the universe and if you’re their GM you have to either get extremely lucky in the draft or take on those crap contracts in hopes that the players attached to them get their heads on straight.
I agree in general, but for this SAC club, based on how their current talent is developing, their fans probably hope they stick with the "get lucky in the draft"/"develop current guys" option over the "trade for Andrew Wiggins" option.
Yesterday as part of his 7 big questions heading into Free Agency Lowe had the following as pure speculation...
"Would the hopeless post-Walker Hornets deal Nicolas Batum for Wiggins? Would they include a second-round pick?
Batum's deal is two years shorter than Wiggins'. That alone has value for Minnesota. The Hornets could sell Wiggins -- and not unreasonably -- as a bouncy 24-year-old former No. 1 pick who might approach his potential in a new environment. They have to sell something"
The whole thing is at least an interesting read. https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27076686/seven-big-questions-heading-nba-crazy-free-agency
"Would the hopeless post-Walker Hornets deal Nicolas Batum for Wiggins? Would they include a second-round pick?
Batum's deal is two years shorter than Wiggins'. That alone has value for Minnesota. The Hornets could sell Wiggins -- and not unreasonably -- as a bouncy 24-year-old former No. 1 pick who might approach his potential in a new environment. They have to sell something"
The whole thing is at least an interesting read. https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27076686/seven-big-questions-heading-nba-crazy-free-agency
Oh I agree with you there, Wiggins was a killer defender in college, but ending up in an asylum broke him because he barely tries on that end. I don’t think he is salvageable at this point (maybe like Rudy Gay he figures it out when the physical gifts are fading and he’s just a roleplayer). I thought the ‘Wolves made a huge mistake in not trading him to Toronto while he was still on rookie deal.
That being said, Sacramento has a gap at the wing, and I’d likely give Vlade a pass for taking a gamble on a talented enigma that should be a top 30 player.
There’s no reason not to. Either the team that really wants him makes a trade offer for him to secure their guy, or at worst they work out a sign & trade with Charlotte. Rozier wants a starting job, so despite the “TERRY ROZIER WILL NEVER AGREE!!!” crowd’s assertions, if he gets a three year deal with an ETO at slightly over Smart money, he’s likely to take the starting job in Charlotte.
He will agree if nobody offers him more. The problem you had was you kept insisting that Rozier would agree to a S&T with a team for less than that team was willing to offer him as an UFA.
THough a Rozier to CHA deal is tough, both teams would be over the cap so the Celtics would have to send out 26M or so, and he would be a BYC, so we would need to include at least Smart.
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