I mean, it's not like guys haven't gotten shots on nepotism before... Giannis' brothers, LiAngelo Ball, I mean JR Smith got his brother a job. You 100% trade a roster spot for LeBron. He's doing him huge favor in that he'll get him in the door. Yes he'll never be LeBron, but who knows maybe he gets in the door and surprises people and sticks around a few years.
They can also offer two swaps, if memory serves.
I would think that haul (including the swaps) would get them Donovan Mitchell, or at least very close to it. But perhaps Lebron insists on Kyrie instead. The Nets could then use the Laker picks to trade for DM, who is close with JB. The Nets could then possibly see if KD is more willing to play with DM (unlikely) or accept the Celtics JB/White/picks package. Moving on from two older stars to two guards in their prime would have to be viewed as a haul.
I would guess that isn't enough to get Mitchell, primarily because the Lakers picks are so far into the future. Hard to be sure either way.
Danny Ainge isnt trading Donavan Mitchell to the lakers. I cant see that happening in any universe.
I'm guessing @Jakarta was speculating on some crazy monster (Nets blow it up) trade like:
Yeah this is a great callout. Nets can dream right now. Charm KD, kick Kyrie can down the road at least for now, Simmons rediscovers his love for basketball and health, and you have something. Once the bus leaves with Kyrie, your hand is forced on KD. Everything is up in the air. Maybe internally they know that's where they are already, but we'll know that if Kyrie packs. Probably even if Mitchell is coming back.
This was my line of thought as well, but I don’t think the Nets want to blow it up on account of not holding their own draft picks. I think they’d keep Simmons, and try to rebuild value this year. If the guy actually plays, a core of JB/DM/Simmons is pretty fantastic. The above would work with RWB going to Utah and Rudy Gay going to the Nets. Maybe one less swap to Utah.
If KD does quit on them (no-show) there is no reason to keep Kyrie/Simmons around, hence "blow it up". Adding young talented All-Star quality players in Mitchell/Brown probably keeps the Nets somewhat competitive now while having an interesting future.
Your second paragraph is spot on. I imagine this is why the Nets have asked for more than the two picks when, based on all of the reporting before, the Lakers had met their previous ask by including the two picks.
I would add Durant's age to that equation. He doesnt exactly have all the time in the world to be throwing away a year sitting out
He’s getting blasted on Twitter. Probably mostly by Celtics Twitter, but who cares.
Funny shit. Guy got 75 minutes in a 7 game series and wasn't injured. Maybe he has bigger problems than getting the white glove treatment in the locker room.
Obviously he does. When 75% of people think you can't get an erection, it's a problem.
Weirder still that he would bother to dump on the visitors locker room. Literally thousands of basketball and hockey players have paraded through that locker room since it opened and this is the first sneer i’ve heard. And it’s not even about the cold showers and the heat you can’t turn off in the summer and on in the winter.
I find it hilarious that his "getting in shape porn" includes the last image where his shorts are falling off his butt.
I don't care about the 16M, but it would be more informative to get this locker room datum from guys who play. Like who cares what Sam Hauser thinks about the Miami locker room. I doubt Pat Riley does.
It's a great sign of how thirsty Seattle is for pro basketball. I don't go a day without seeing Sonics gear.
Can you blame him after the Gobert heist?
Those are all somewhat interesting players, but MRob is not obviously a fit for Utah's timeline, and it's not clear Grimes and Quickly are anything more than rotation guys. None of which is bad---there's value in all of them--but distinguishing between "we need to make this move to get this asset now" and "there's a bunch of stuff" is pretty important in terms of the seller's urgency. The Knicks are very much a "bunch of stuff" team.yep, the Knicks are the motivated buyer here
I'd guess Danny will start floating other teams interested in Mitchell via Shams/Woj. Eventually extracting from the NYKs unprotected kitty. Adding Dono won't take the Knicks out of play-in game hell in an improving EC.
Grimes/Quickley /MRob are three young, interesting players that would have roles in a UTAH rebuild.
Playing Dono, Brunsen, Fournier, RJ, Randle, Reddish, Toppin, & Rose nightly will have Thibs popping meds on the sidelines
Eight players looking to get THEIRS and nobody getting back on D. I could see that group imploding in a couple of seasons after the shine wears off.
The thought of a smurf backcourt pairing of Mitchell/Brunson with no Robinson around to protect the interior makes me so happy. I want this deal to happen so badly.yep, the Knicks are the motivated buyer here
I'd guess Danny will start floating other teams interested in Mitchell via Shams/Woj. Eventually extracting the NYKs unprotected kitty. Adding Dono won't take the Knicks out of play-in game hell in an improving EC.
Grimes/Quickley /MRob are three young, interesting players that would have roles in a UTAH rebuild.
Playing Dono, Brunsen, Fournier, RJ, Randle, Reddish, Toppin, & Rose nightly will have Thibs popping meds on the sidelines
Eight players looking to get THEIRS and nobody getting back on D. I could see that group imploding in a couple of seasons after the shine wears off.
MRob is 24 (signed 4yrs/$60M). Getting his prime years would be fine. Will/Danny may even see a TimeLord-esque 5.
If you are trading Mitchell, the most likely plan is to tank this year and likely next to maximize benefit of your own picks---Robinson is not helpful there (though he's not so good as to really jeopardize the overall plan either). If you get him, you are at least as likely to deal him in the next year as keep him for that full contract, I'd guess.
I don't see Danny going full Presti/Hinkie. I imagine he'll try to do a Celtic 2013/14 rebuild
Just note, MRob can't be dealt before Dec 15 since he signed this Summer.
Remember, Mitchell's Smurf-like height is deceiving. He's got a 6' 10" wingspan (but he's not a great defender, so I suppose all for naught).
Are we "set off" or are we responding to a humorous story in a dead time of the offseason?
The latter. Connaughton can fuck off too. At least he can find the floor. But both of them sound entitled complaining about a visiting locker room which I'm sure would be perfectly fine for 99.99% of NBA fans.
Duncan Robinson is now one of the world's highest paid podcasters.
Extra podcast POINTZ at maintaining a healthy Miami Glow, definitely 100% natural sunlight. Expecting his offseason work to include highlighted tips and a tattoo sleeve... expecting a South Florida female demo bump
