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PedroKsBambino

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interesting, I see they tried to trade him at one point, but my recollection is that it wasn't a major sticking point in why he left, which was far more about $ and role.
I believe those things came up becomes of the trade rumors—he wanted certainty/clarity and they wouldn’t provide it.
 

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Tony Jones said a source told him that Danny's ask was:
6 of the 8 picks, Grimes, Quickly, Toppin, McBride.... and that they Jazz don't want Barrett.
That tracks. And I would bet Mitchell is a Knick by Monday if Tony Jones is correct
 

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Yeah, I've been seeing a few stories like this, and some mention Jaylen feeling disrespected by Boston fans, or not wanting to play in Tatum's shadow. I'd take it cum grano salis for now. Look at it this way: Brad just brought in Brogdon, and he and Jaylen are supposed to be buds, plus Brogdon gives them an even better chance of winning a title. I think it's just sportswriters looking for things to write about, like how they spin endless fake trades during dry news spells.
Unfortunately, it's going to be two years of this since it doesn't make sense for Jaylen to sign an extension before becoming a free agent (unless he makes all-NBA next year)

It's going to replace the, can Jaylen and Tatum play together, should they be broken up???, as the lazy story du jour.
 

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Unfortunately, it's going to be two years of this since it doesn't make sense for Jaylen to sign an extension before becoming a free agent (unless he makes all-NBA next year)

It's going to replace the, can Jaylen and Tatum play together, should they be broken up???, as the lazy story du jour.
This is correct.

Turn off your radio.
 

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I guess it's possible, sure. But having a beer thrown on you, and having shirts that say F*** LeBron doesn't equal racism.
 

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I guess it's possible, sure. But having a beer thrown on you, and having shirts that say F*** LeBron doesn't equal racism.
I mean, it's not a coincidence that a number of players across multiple sports say that BOS is one of the places where they have the most racist stuff said to them (along with SLC, OKC). I get it, some of the rep isn't totally deserved, but pretending that it doesn't happen is being naive.
 

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I mean, it's not a coincidence that a number of players across multiple sports say that BOS is one of the places where they have the most racist stuff said to them (along with SLC, OKC). I get it, some of the rep isn't totally deserved, but pretending that it doesn't happen is being naive.
I wasn't pretending anything. Just that the examples LeBron used weren't really indicative of racism. Just fans being obnoxious. He made no mention in that little clip of the N word being used or whatever.
 

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I wasn't pretending anything. Just that the examples LeBron used weren't really indicative of racism. Just fans being obnoxious. He made no mention in that little clip of the N word being used or whatever.
Same thing happened to an opposing player in Philly in last season's playoffs, but somehow that wasn't considered racist.
 

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Is there going to be a Red Sox issue with LeBron? Seems sort of odd to be a minority owner of a team and call the fans racist from 3000 miles away.

It is pretty much the same fans.
 

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Is there going to be a Red Sox issue with LeBron? Seems sort of odd to be a minority owner of a team and call the fans racist from 3000 miles away.

It is pretty much the same fans.
Worse yet he's clearly counting on FSG to be the money behind his Las Vegas NBA team.
 

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I mean, it's not a coincidence that a number of players across multiple sports say that BOS is one of the places where they have the most racist stuff said to them (along with SLC, OKC). I get it, some of the rep isn't totally deserved, but pretending that it doesn't happen is being naive.
Calling a whole fanbase racist because of the actions of a pretty darn small minority is very obnoxious. That's like saying all NBA players are anti-vaxxers because of the actions of Kyrie Irving. That's a pretty serious allegation that requires some actual evidence, in my opinion.
 

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I mean, it's not a coincidence that a number of players across multiple sports say that BOS is one of the places where they have the most racist stuff said to them (along with SLC, OKC). I get it, some of the rep isn't totally deserved, but pretending that it doesn't happen is being naive.
These questions are interesting both because it’s impossible to speak for other people’s experience and, when you look at them from your own lens, it’s hard to compare a place you lived most of your life to other places. I’m white but I grew up in the city and was in and around places like South and East Boston enough to hear plenty of racist crap, especially behind closed doors. Wouldn’t surprise me at all if that got unleashed against black athletes on occasion, but also have no idea how that compares to other cities, as outside of Boston I’ve spent most my life abroad and in Hawaii. Are white fans in Phillie and NY really less racist? I have no idea but if LeBron says so I’d have to trust him as he clearly has more experience dealing with the fans of different regions. That said, I do hope he’s differentiating between fan vitriol and racism because as someone like Bill Laimbeer can attest to that is not always correlated.
 

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I wasn't pretending anything. Just that the examples LeBron used weren't really indicative of racism. Just fans being obnoxious. He made no mention in that little clip of the N word being used or whatever.
Lebron does do some awesome things for charity in his hometown, but he's pretty much a clown. He won't speak out against China, but will lob grenades at Boston fans. And he posts things like this on his IG, like it's a big deal

View: https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/1548468828375375875
 

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I’ve written in the past about a ugly racist incident at a Boston Celtics game 20 years ago when I was attending with an African-American friend. I’ve had season tickets for probably half the seasons since then and in the years I did not have season tickets I attended at least a half dozen games each season and I can say from my experience that the Boston Celtics crowd since the title team has not displayed any racism that I’ve seen. It’s a very different crowd than it was 20+ years ago: a lot younger, a lot more multiracial.

Kyrie Irving said the same thing about the Celtics crowd, even though he admitted that he never heard or experienced any racism in Boston personally. To me, players like LeBron and Kyrie could be saying something like this to gain a competitive edge, to try to inhibit a franchise‘s ability to sign free agents.
 

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I guess it's possible, sure. But having a beer thrown on you, and having shirts that say F*** LeBron doesn't equal racism.
I think this is a fair criticism. Lebron actually laughs at the question posed (as if it were a point of fact). It's not to say that Lebron–as a black man who's been to Boston over years of time--doesn't hold legitimate weight; it's that he doesn't give even one example of racism he's experienced. It's not clear whether he didn't think it was the right time to take a deep dive, or whether he could only come up with superficial reasons, or if he was falling back on stereotypes, but it would have been more powerful to hear a personal experience he had confronted. He doesn't owe us that, but it would have felt more genuine.
 

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I think this is a fair criticism. Lebron actually laughs at the question posed (as if it were a point of fact). It's not to say that Lebron–as a black man who's been to Boston over years of time--doesn't hold legitimate weight; it's that he doesn't give even one example of racism he's experienced. It's not clear whether he didn't think it was the right time to take a deep dive, or whether he could only come up with superficial reasons, or if he was falling back on stereotypes, but it would have been more powerful to hear a personal experience he had confronted. He doesn't owe us that, but it would have felt more genuine.
I agree with this. And I am not one to reflexively defend the honor of the olde towne anytime this topic comes up, Boston owns its past, and its present, to whatever degree it still applies. But hot take/click bait comments like “ Boston fans(which implies all) are racist as fuck” are all heat, no light. And do little to further any meaningful discourse on the topic, and serve rather as just another loud noise in an ocean of outrage culture.
 

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Considering the fact that LeBron & Russ made a point of not associating with each other despite both being at a Lakers SL game...
 

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What are the chances there was actually a call---10%?

Chris Haynes would write a story that the moon was made of swiss cheese if a friendly agent asked him to do so.
 

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It’s like post-trade deadline last season when all the reporters said that they elected not to make any trades. Ignoring the fact that the rest of the league had no interest in their smorgasbord of suck
The league has a fair amount of interests in their unprotected firsts in 27 and/or 29. By all accounts the Lakers were not willing to put those on the table at the deadline which was the correct calculus give the team's prospects.
 

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This doesn’t mean he’s not vaxxed or anything, but it did make me think back to all the rumors about it before the playoffs.

 

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I know Jaylen is considered to be highly intelligent….. but is he “Kyrie smart” or actually smart?
 

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So, Jaylen Brown liked the Wiggins story? Sometimes its confusing what people mean with these social media feeds. Is he just sharing it because Wiggins is his friend, or does Brown actually think what Wiggins is saying is.....not dumb?
 

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So, Jaylen Brown liked the Wiggins story? Sometimes its confusing what people mean with these social media feeds. Is he just sharing it because Wiggins is his friend, or does Brown actually think what Wiggins is saying is.....not dumb?
Well, if he wanted to share, that would be a retweet. Here, he liked it. Could be nothing, I guess, but just showing support for a friend doesn't seem right here since it's an ESPN story, not something posted on Wiggins' personal account.
 

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Isn't Jaylen Brown Boston's NBAPA player rep? If so, I can see why Brown may like the tweet to the ESPN story about Wiggins.
 

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Being Kyrie isn't about holding certain positions. It's about complete self-absorption and narcissism while holding those positions.
 

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I know Jaylen is considered to be highly intelligent….. but is he “Kyrie smart” or actually smart?
Actually smart. Went to Cal partly because they allowed him to take higher level college courses a freshman normally wouldn’t be able to take. Has given lectures at MIT and Harvard.
 

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Screw Mitchell. I'm reading chuck may be leaving tnt to to call fucking golf. Nooooooo. That'd be disastrous

You want something in the background as you work? Just youtube inside the nba and let it run. Endlessly entertainment.
 

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The Knicks may have signed the biggest free agent (excluding players that re-signed with their current team) and may end up with the biggest trade acquisition, and still end up finishing dead last in their own division. That speaks to the strength of Atlantic Division as much as it does to the competency of the Knicks, but it still noteworthy.
 

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The Knicks may have signed the biggest free agent (excluding players that re-signed with their current team) and may end up with the biggest trade acquisition, and still end up finishing dead last in their own division. That speaks to the strength of Atlantic Division as much as it does to the competency of the Knicks, but it still noteworthy.
Part of the issue being that “biggest” in both cases refers to players who are 6’-1”.
 

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If the Knicks pull this off, they are definitely still behind the Celtics, Heat, Bucks, Sixers, and Nets (if they keep KD and Kyrie). And quite possibly the Cavs, Raptors, Bulls, and Hawks. But with Miles Bridges a big question mark, they do have the inside track to a road game in the play-in.
 

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What do we thing a “haul” would be? Assuming just a shit ton of those picks plus maybe Barrett/Toppin?
 

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Knicks watched the Jazz fail in the playoffs with a similar backcourt because Gobert wasn't good enough to cover having horrid defensive wings and thought let's try the same thing except without having a multiple time defensive poty.
 
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