Offseason 2022-23 MLB Thread

Hee Sox Choi

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William Contreras is a great bat at C for the Braves. He can rake. But maybe his D is suspect and he'll DH and be the back-up C.

EDIT: I posted this before I knew he had been traded to the Brewers.
 

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The deal as we know it so far:

A’s get: Kyle Muller, Esteury Ruiz, Freddy Tarnok, Manny Pina

Braves get: Sean Murphy

Brewers get: William Contreras, Joel Payamps, Justin Yaeger
 

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Braves must not be comfortable with Contreras' high-variance profile. Makes sense for the Brewers to take the chance on him though. The A's are actively trying to get to Las Vegas, lol.
 

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That's a really good deal for the Brewers, but a bit head scratching for both the Braves and the A's. Braves get the best player...but catcher wasn't really a position of need. A's get a pile of guys, but not a single Top 100 prospect let alone a proven young MLBer. Seems like they could've gotten more taking and flipping Contreras themselves.
 

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BTV wouldn't even accept the trade, presumably because Oakland got diddly squat back

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Wow that return for Oakland is really, really bad. The Red Sox could have beaten that easily if they wanted to. I did this on BTV as well.

A's Get
Brewers Comp Pick
Houck
Rafaela
Ruiz
Total Value Out: 51.3 Total Value In: 44.6

Brewers Get
Mata
McGuire
Total Value Out: 11 Total Value In: 10.3

Red Sox Get
Murphy
Total Value In: 51.3 Total Value Out: 43.9
 

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What's going to happen with d'Arnaud now? Surely Murphy is the starting catcher now. d'Arnaud is 33 and is signed for $8 million for this year and has a team option for 2024 at $8 million. Do the Braves have a deal in place to flip him?
 

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What's going to happen with d'Arnaud now? Surely Murphy is the starting catcher now. d'Arnaud is 33 and is signed for $8 million for this year and has a team option for 2024 at $8 million. Do the Braves have a deal in place to flip him?
I wouldn't mind the Red Sox taking a look to see what this market may be. It would be an upgrade on the tandem they have now.
 

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Trade is official as reported. The Braves gave up two catchers for one in this deal, think d'Arnaud stays around after all.
 

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I assume the A's love Muller far more than BTV does. It was never clear to me whether Cleveland would give up Gavin Williams for Murphy, but Daniel Espino was off-limits. Both of those guys have higher expected ceilings than the two Braves starters. I think a Cleveland equivalent would be more along the lines of Tanner Bibee and Logan Allen. I'm also not sure if the A's wanted Bo Naylor since they already have a top prospect behind the plate (and indeed, they settled for getting a replacement-level backup veteran). I might have been okay with Bibee-Allen-Naylor for Murphy, but that would be around my limit for gambling on the long-term future of a catcher with nothing else included. If they preferred a non-catcher position player, there's really nothing similar to Ruiz in Cleveland's system… Valera & Rocchio are more valuable, so you'd have to dip down to the other middle infielders. That all assumes the Brewers or some other third team still helps facilitate it.

I'm simply catcher-adverse when it comes to giving up prospect capital. Too many things can go wrong. Cleveland saves their chips and we'll see how things play out on Bryan Reynolds… the Pirates might be asking for the moon, but the A's were reportedly doing the same on Murphy for the past year. I expect this to free up other transactions and Cleveland will probably announce their solution at catcher before the end of the week.
 

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It could be totally irrational but part of me wonders if you just tell Sanchez no more catching just DH and occasional 1B if that would get his bat straightened out.
 

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It could be totally irrational but part of me wonders if you just tell Sanchez no more catching just DH and occasional 1B if that would get his bat straightened out.
Could be something to this, in 2022 he had a .633 OPS as a catcher, .737 as a DH.
 

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I don’t think he’s anything special, but he’d certainly be an upgrade over what the Sox currently have at catcher. I think the Sox are at the point where they need to take a few high upside gambles with the money they have left (Sanchez? Conforto? Gallo? Syndergaard?).
 

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I feel extremely comfortable passing on every one of those names.
Ok, sure. Are there any players you’d like the Sox to spend their money on? Every player left is pretty flawed. You can make a case against every one with valid reasons…but wasn’t this the off-season the Sox were going to flex their financial muscle a bit more? Seems like we are being kinda picky.
 

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Guys seem to really like playing for the Braves, no wonder they keep getting them to sign long-term cheaply.

View: https://twitter.com/wcontreras42/status/1602441641243148288?s=46&t=bHZIXX52dvt2qLYUnasENQ
What's not to like about it? They almost always have a reasonably competitive team, they keep managers (and stability) for a long time in general, and as far as I can tell the market does a pretty good job of supporting them when they are good, while not turning into a dumpster fire when they have a down year or two. It seems like a pretty awesome place to be a professional baseball player.
 

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What's not to like about it? They almost always have a reasonably competitive team, they keep managers (and stability) for a long time in general, and as far as I can tell the market does a pretty good job of supporting them when they are good, while not turning into a dumpster fire when they have a down year or two. It seems like a pretty awesome place to be a professional baseball player.
The fans do a racist chant pretty incessantly, but the rest of that, agreed. :)
 

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Ok, sure. Are there any players you’d like the Sox to spend their money on? Every player left is pretty flawed. You can make a case against every one with valid reasons…but wasn’t this the off-season the Sox were going to flex their financial muscle a bit more? Seems like we are being kinda picky.
Of the people available as FA, I think I'm most interested in Turner. This list in particular seems like a paying for past performance situation though. And I don't want the Sox to spend just to say they spent, I want them to actually get something for that money, and unfortunately the players available on the market don't do a great job matching up with their needs.

I do think I'm more willing than most to trust Refsnyder to a larger role based on his performance this year, but I'm open to hearing arguments (beyond "he hasn't been this good before," cause duh) against.
 

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There are a couple of trade targets I might have preferred, but Zunino was the best free agent catcher left after Vazquez signed with the Twins last night. Anything less than Zunino and I would have preferred they just bring Austin Hedges or Luke Maile back. The Guardians are used to catchers who can't reach the Mendoza line, but at least Zunino brings legit power. At $6M/1Y, this is also a vote of confidence that they expect Bo Naylor to fill the position long-term.
 

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Have other catchers had thoracic outlet surgery before? I know it's a career killer for pitchers, curious what Zunino looks like next year.
 

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He has 2 more arbitration years left. This year he's projected in the $12 million range.
If the report is valid, that's something I could see Seattle or Baltimore trying to pull off ... a team on the cusp of taking the step up. Castillo and Fried would be a strong 1-2
 

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Guardians decided on Zunino at catcher, 1/6

View: https://twitter.com/ByRobertMurray/status/1602693644179443713


To sign Eflin onto their ML roster, Rays are DFA'ing Feyerisen. Great 2022 but he is having a serious surgery that will compromise his 2023. Rays are expecting he'll be claimed then a trade will be worked out.

View: https://twitter.com/TBTimes_Rays/status/1602700835112329216
I'd be all over that if I was Bloom. He was brilliant in 2021 and he's under control through 2027.
 
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Petagine in a Bottle

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Only challenge there is you’d have to keep him on the 40-man until the season starts until he can be moved to the 60 day, right?