Yeah agreed on this post. Also some of the others above. Let's wait and see how it goes before panicking. There's a path to the OL not being a slow motion car crash. It's not inconceivable that it's below average mediocre but functional. That's not a great bar but it is year one of the rebuild.
It’s the definition of making a the best of a bad situation
What good are you then?
All these years I suspected my ex-wife had a SOSH burner.
Nate Tice was talking about this a few days ago (in the context of Rham), basically that he thinks people who don't really watch OL play have jumped all over the Patriots line as worse than it is, he said he has concerns about pass pro for sure, but he thinks this might actually be a good run blocking line, said he wouldn't be surprised if it grades out in the early 20s overall, and it was not one of the couple units he thought looked the worst in pre-season, especially when Andrews plays.
I think so, it came up on youtube after something else, just a quick hitter with Matt Harmon
Yeah, no doubt
What also stood out to me in that chart was that all of his big gains were pretty much between the tackles. In many postgame articles, Rham told AVP "let me go downhill", and they went away from outside zone.Yeah, no doubt
To my (less trained than many here) eye our line played relatively well from Andrews-right, and it was the left side that really struggled. With the caveat that you already flagged, that Layden looked a lot better going forward than he did going backward.
And in related news, Rham was clearly looking to cut right on most of his runs. On his one touchdown, for example, he more or less just followed Robinson forward and then took the open lane
Great post! I don't have a lot to add but I think you summarized this perfectly!
I mean he was just benched last week mid-game, and had issues related to benching last season for calling out his own coach.
His PFF pass defense grade last week was zero. It's like the Pats played with four linemen until they put Lowe in the game.
Was going to say something very similar. Feels like this used to happen in the Scar days: some guy who was thinking he had another year would show up and realize every day is going to be a world of pain.
There is a good chance Wallace starts at LT on Thursday. Lowe was a DNP yesterday and Okorafor gone.
The DNP is a bit of a "fake" report, as the team did not practice, and the team is required to submit a report assuming an actual practice. Teams tend to report all injuries sustained on Sunday to cover themselves as the practice weeks for Thursday night games are always weird, and they don't want to get in trouble for not reporting injuries.
Stuck like a Triple Salchow!
watching a little all 22 this morning, anything but work, and I saw a couple screens where the back just didn't leak out either because he blew the play or because he got caught up in the washHere's Bedard's breakdown of the problems in the passing game:
To him, there was a breakdown on 3/4 of the passing plays and more than half of the time it was the line.
I remember one in .... I guess the 3rd Q? (The pats were going left to right across your radio dial -- miss you Gil ) - where Rham was (legally) held up trying to sneak out. The D-Lineman recognized the screen , and forced JB to spike it .
finding cheap OT is hard, I'd guess most of the league is similar (and 2 of the 3 were injury/illness career enders) in terms of getting very little from cheap OL punts. Okorafor is the biggest miss, just a weird one, he was not good last year but he was capable, no injury issues, no age concerns, just stopped wanted to play football it appears.
