NYY Trade Deadline Thread

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Honestly I don't think NY should be asking much for him, they need to get him out of the way ASAP. Sadly I don't make the decisions for them.
 

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Honestly I don't think NY should be asking much for him, they need to get him out of the way ASAP. Sadly I don't make the decisions for them.
  • 14-18:$17M annually. 19:$15M club option (no buyout)
  • 2019 becomes player option if McCann: 1) has at least 1,000 plate appearances combined in 2017-18, 2) starts at least 90 games at catcher in 2018, and 3) does not end 2018 season on disabled list
  • full no-trade protection
Would he accept a trade without making that 2019 option guaranteed? How much will the Yankees pay down?
 

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Doesn't sound promising, NY needs to be more realistic, but that's probably easier said than done.

Joel Sherman ‏@Joelsherman1 4m4 minutes agoManhattan, NY
As @JonHeyman reported #Yankees have had McCann out on market, and #Braves have some interest in reunion, but there are complications

1. McCann has full no-trade but does still live in Atl in offseason. 2. #Braves want #Yankees to eat some of 2-$34M left after '16

#Yankees current mode is done eating $$. 3. #Braves looking to get him for minimum package, NYY wants real prospects back
 

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They want "real prospects" for a catcher whose skills are declining and is owed a truckload for two more seasons? And they won't eat money?

Have they considered the idea idea that they're interest in dumping him drives down his value?
 

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So I think if I were Cashman at this point, I'd try to see if Texas was interested in a Miller/McCann/Beltran package, or just McCann/Beltran. NY is probably thinking they can move guys in the offseason, but Sanchez is out of options after this year, and it would be nice to get him 40 or so games in the bigs this year before that.
 

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I can understand the Yankees not willing to eat a boatload of McCann's contract to make a deal happen, and I get that they'd like a prospect back, but if I were running things, I would take a guy like the guy Pitt got back from Was in the deal. Taylor Hearn, a young big LH lottery ticket with an upper 90s arm, and not much else a this point.

I can also understand if the Yanks were unwilling to take that bleeping POS Olivera from Atlanta, who they are apparently now close to trading for Kemp.

I do think McCann for nothing in a waiver wire deal would be a big win for the Yanks.
 

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Wade Davis is on a plane for KC for an MRI on his elbow. He ain't goin' nowhere.
Yeah, this is the second time this month. Given the scare the first part of the month I wasn't surprised KC was willing to talk, but I really couldn't believe anyone was going to overpay for him
 

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No, he's pretty clearly hurt, scouts on him recently have been shocked at his loss of control (somehow still effective).
 

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Lucroy to CLE, there has to be a good match between TEX and NY, Hal willing. Miller, Beltran, McCann, all could help them and they are of course loaded with young talent.
 

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they're not making the playoffs this year.
Probably not. But if they improve their offense, they might have a run in them. I didn't know Judge was returning. They could go with Judge in RF, move Beltran to DH, release A-Rod. I would still look for a middle of the order bat for LF, for example: Carlos Gonzalez.

Beltran and Gonzalez would give the Yankees a formidable middle of the lineup. They are fine at the back end of the bullpen (obviously). The Yankees starting staff can stand up to the other shaky starting staffs in the AL East race.

It does seem like the Yankees are trending in the direction of selling, and that is probably the wiser decision. With that said, it does seem like a somewhat "wimpy" decision as well (for lack of better term).
 

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Probably not. But if they improve their offense, they might have a run in them. I didn't know Judge was returning. They could go with Judge in RF, move Beltran to DH, release A-Rod. I would still look for a middle of the order bat for LF, for example: Carlos Gonzalez.

Beltran and Gonzalez would give the Yankees a formidable middle of the lineup. They are fine at the back end of the bullpen (obviously). The Yankees starting staff can stand up to the other shaky starting staffs in the AL East race.

It does seem like the Yankees are trending in the direction of selling, and that is probably the wiser decision. With that said, it does seem like a somewhat "wimpy" decision as well (for lack of better term).
They are 14-22 against the AL East with 2/3 of their remaining games in division, Fangraphs have their chances down to 1.0% for the division and 4.2% for the wild card, combined a 2.9% chance to make the division round.

I do think they need to clear some 40 man roster space and Cashman often does a bit of that at the deadline, plus they do have some talented excess they could maybe bundle for a veteran, but any player acquisition needs to be looking at 2017 and beyond, this year should be a minor consideration at most.
 

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It's pretty clear they need to get Sanchez onto the roster ASAP, so that means trading McCann or Romine or releasing A-Rod. That and trading Nova to MIA or elsewhere for a bag of balls should be the two moves they make at a minimum.
 

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Clint Frazier is Cleveland's top prospect, a AA OF who is #21 on BA's current list. Justus Sheffield is a 20 year old LHP in high A, #69 on BA's current list.
 

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Seems like a nice get for CLE if they are giving up a package similar to what CHI gave up for Chapman since they will have him for two more years after this year.
 

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Seems like a nice get for CLE if they are giving up a package similar to what CHI gave up for Chapman since they will have him for two more years after this year.
Agreed, this package might be a bit better but once Washington got Melancon, Cashman was running out of options and evidently NY really really likes Frazier.
 

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Heller is a hard-throwing reliever who has great numbers in AA and AAA this season, he can touch triple figures evidently:

Ben Heller | Rank: 30 (Preseason: NR)
Team: Columbus Clippers (AAA)ETA: 2017Position: RHPAge: 24 DOB: 08/05/1991Bats: R Throws: RHeight: 6' 3" Weight: 205 lb.
Drafted: 2013, 22nd (651) - CLE
Scouting Grades: Fastball: 70 | Slider: 55 | Control: 45 | Overall: 45
Selected by the Indians in the 22nd round of the 2013 Draft out of Olivet Nazarene University, Heller struggled to throw strikes early in his career before making strides and reaching Double-A for the first time in 2015. The hard-throwing right-hander continued to climb the ladder in early 2016, earning a promotion to Triple-A in late May after a dominant showing back in the Eastern League.

With his strong frame and a lightning-quick arm, Heller generates easy velocity. He operates in the high 90s and can bump triple digits with his heater, throwing the pitch with late arm-side run that makes him difficult to barrel. His slider pairs nicely with his fastball, registering in the low 80s with good tilt and two-plane action, and together they've helped him to pile up strikeouts at every Minor League stop so far.

Though his slider requires some additional refinement, Heller's two-pitch combo, as well as the strides he's made commanding them, could have him working out of the Indians' bullpen sooner rather than later.
 

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That deal is preposterously good for the Yankees. This market is so nuts I almost want to see the Red Sox say screw it and sell.

Do the Yankees have the top farm system in the game now? They're at least in the conversation. With the young major league talent they already have that team is going to be very good soon.
 

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Already very prematurely dreaming of a Frazier/Rutherford/Judge OF, Bird/Torres/Didi/Andujar in the infield, Sanchez at C, TBA at DH.
 

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Gallo would look very nice in that DH spot, bundle Beltran and McCann and Pineda or Eovaldi and make it happen, Cash.
 

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They do, but they shouldn't. They need to just keep building like this, and then spend in the 2018 offseason to fill in holes/add stars.
 

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They do, but they shouldn't. They need to just keep building like this, and then spend in the 2018 offseason to fill in holes/add stars.
Oh they'll spend like drunken sailors in the '18 offseason with all the previous bad contracts off the books anyways. Now do they cut ties with A-Rod and Teixeira right now? Let Refsynder play 1st the rest of the year and Bird steps in next year. A-Rod has no use to the team.
 

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Oh they'll spend like drunken sailors in the '18 offseason with all the previous bad contracts off the books anyways. Now do they cut ties with A-Rod and Teixeira right now? Let Refsynder play 1st the rest of the year and Bird steps in next year. A-Rod has no use to the team.
A-Rod yes (fingers crossed, but that is what all the writers think on Twitter), Tex only if they are going to give Tyler Austin a shot, which they should. Refsnyder isn't starter material, Austin could be.
 

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The Yankees are definitely waving the white flag on the 2017 season. A very good trade for the Yankees. I hate to see the Indians give up so much cost controlled talent, I'm thinking about the Lucroy trade as well. The Indians are an organization that relies on producing homegrown talent, but I guess they are going for it, this year and next.
 

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This seems kind of strange, especially since Sherman wrote earlier that Severino and Green would stay in the bullpen, but maybe NY will need at least one of them to replace a starter they're about to move.

Jack Curry ‏@JackCurryYES 56s56 seconds ago
With Miller gone, hearing the Yankees are close to adding another veteran reliever to cushion that loss.
 

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Curry usually has the best sources as he is a YES employee, but he has been out of the loop on both these big deals, so we'll see. I think if NY does get a veteran reliever, it's connected to the 40 man crunch this offseason because they don't want to start the clock on some of their current guys before they have to.