NY draft 2022

[jon abbey]

The draft starts tonight and goes through Tuesday, NY picks 25th. The experts will tell you that teams never draft for need, which usually is correct, but I will be quite surprised given who should be available at their pick and what their organizational strengths are if NY doesn't take their favorite of the LHH college OFs available at #25. Spencer Jones specifically is worth keeping an eye on, as he is Judge-sized at 6'7".

 

[jon abbey]

A lot of mock drafts switching to Spencer Jones for NY, we’ll see soon enough.

 

[jon abbey]

View: https://twitter.com/joedoylemilb/status/1548844783551913984?s=21&t=awfs3BZAhhuPq6Z33dX8fg

 

[jon abbey]

View: https://twitter.com/bobbymilone29/status/1548790497648513024?s=21&t=awfs3BZAhhuPq6Z33dX8fg

 

[jon abbey]

https://theathletic.com/3389573/2022/07/06/mlb-draft-vanderbilt-spencer-jones/?amp=1

 

[EvilEmpire]

Cool. I honestly thought he would go a little sooner after all the reports linking him to the Yankees. Who knows how he turns out, but guys who hit the ball really hard are fun.

 

[jon abbey]

Ties Judge and Tony Clark for the tallest first round OF ever drafted.

View: https://twitter.com/pramanalabs/status/1548847605081378817?s=12

 

[jon abbey]

Cool. I honestly thought he would go a little sooner after all the reports linking him to the Yankees. Who knows how he turns out, but guys who hit the ball really hard are fun.

He has a bigger bust potential than most are comfortable with in the first round, I think. I’m excited, though.

 

[jon abbey]

View: https://twitter.com/martinonyc/status/1548850797802164224?s=21&t=hhRwoWbXctD7U0fmT4Tq1Q

 

[Wingack]

College bat, how close could he be?

 

[jon abbey]

College bat, how close could he be?

2-3 years if not more, Austin Wells was their #1 pick in 2020 and just got promoted to AA in the last week or so.

 

[jon abbey]

I am unrealistically hoping for Brock Jones at #61, 25 picks still to go.

 

[jon abbey]

Matt Blake has been consistently developing mid-round drafted pitchers into high-level prospects the last few years:

Ken Waldichuk (2019, 5th rounder)
Hayden Wesneski (2019, 6th rounder)
Carson Coleman (2020, undrafted in a 5 round draft)
Will Warren (2021, 8th round)

All four of these guys are at AA or AAA currently even with the lost 2020, Coleman is the AA closer and the other three are very highly regarded SPs. Waldichuk is on most top 100 lists, Warren is flying up the system (already outpitching Luis Medina and Randy Vazquez in AA).

My point is that if I were Cashman, I would almost certainly draft the best college hitters for at least the first 3-4 rounds in this draft and maybe even just college outfielders. NY's system right now is loaded with pitchers, shortstops, very young position players, and Cs, but they could use more OF competition up and down the system, college over high school as they have lots of very young international players already. I agree that in most cases, teams shouldn't draft for need but I think NY right now is an exception.

 

[jon abbey]

Mets get Tidwell, good draft for them. I miss Brodie.

 

[jon abbey]

Two more picks before NY, so they are guaranteed one of Brock Jones, Melton or Fabian if they want to go college OF again (as IMO they should).

This Spencer Jones thread looks crazy, I will watch it all after this pick:

View: https://twitter.com/aria_gerson/status/1548872506567786496

 

[jon abbey]

One pick left before NY and all three of those guys still available.

 

[jon abbey]

Wow, Cashman gets his choice of the three. Brock Jones, please! Getting both Joneses at 25 and 61 is an exciting exciting result, make the call Brian.

 

[jon abbey]

Goddammit I know nothing

 

[Bob Montgomerys Helmet Hat]

Wow, Cashman gets his choice of the three. Brock Jones, please! Getting both Joneses at 25 and 61 is an exciting exciting result, make the call Brian.

Or not?

 

[jon abbey]

I mean, there is a reason these guys are falling, I guess, and I genuinely do know close to nothing, but people were talking about Brock Jones as a possibility for NY in the first round.

 

[Bob Montgomerys Helmet Hat]

I mean, there is a reason these guys are falling, I guess, and I genuinely do know close to nothing, but people were talking about Brock Jones as a possibility for NY in the first round.

Yeah, I love the draft and I really know next to nothing either

 

[E5 Yaz]

Astros get Melton

 

[jon abbey]

Oh man that Spencer Jones highlight thresd I posted above is exciting.

 

[jon abbey]

TB takes Brock Jones at 65.

 

[Wingack]

Who did they draft in the 2nd?

 

[BigMike]

I mean, there is a reason these guys are falling, I guess, and I genuinely do know close to nothing, but people were talking about Brock Jones as a possibility for NY in the first round.

But with the way MLB rules work you may have had the guy rated one spot behind Jones on your board, but the way the slot rules work, you can basically sign the first pick for just around 2.9 million, and the second pick will get around 1.1 million

I guess if you decided you wanted to sign guys in the next 4-5 round willing to sign for 125 K, then you could basically draft and pay 2 as first round talent. And remember if one guy choses not to sign, you lose that whole slot.

 

[jon abbey]

Who did they draft in the 2nd?

Drew Thorpe, righty SP.

HOU with the kind of draft I was looking for from NY with Gilbert and Melton, ugh.

 

[jon abbey]

But with the way MLB rules work you may have had the guy rated one spot behind Jones on your board, but the way the slot rules work, you can basically sign the first pick for just around 2.9 million, and the second pick will get around 1.1 million

I guess if you decided you wanted to sign guys in the next 4-5 round willing to sign for 125 K, then you could basically draft and pay 2 as first round talent. And remember if one guy choses not to sign, you lose that whole slot.

So you think Jones and Melton fell because they were asking for too much? Somehow HOU and TB seem to have the slots for them.

 

[jon abbey]

Fabian to BAL at 67, really think any of those three would have been the way to go over another SP, I guess we'll see down the road.

 

[Just a bit outside]

So you think Jones and Melton fell because they were asking for too much? Somehow HOU and TB seem to have the slots for them.

TB has a lot more picks so more money to play with. Not sure about Houston.

 

[Wingack]

Drew Thorpe, righty SP.

HOU with the kind of draft I was looking for from NY with Gilbert and Melton, ugh.

What do we know about him? College guy?

 

[jon abbey]

What do we know about him? College guy?

View: https://twitter.com/RiverAveBlues/status/1548878198385086466

 

[Wingack]

View: https://twitter.com/RiverAveBlues/status/1548878198385086466

At 61 they take 61. Ok not an overdraft,

 

[jon abbey]

Here is a lot more about Thorpe (straight fastball that is also not that hard, SIGN ME UP!) and included is an ugly ugly list of recent NY second round choices, NY has done well in the first round recently and also in the later rounds but 2nd/3rd rounds seem to be consistent duds, although Josh Smith is already in MLB for TEX and Solak is a fringe major leaguer too:

https://www.nj.com/yankees/2022/07/mlb-draft-2022-yankees-pick-control-freak-college-arm-drew-thorpe-in-2nd-round.html

 

[jon abbey]

Wow, Fangraphs had Thorpe at 22 overall, Spencer Jones at 28, that is more exciting.

https://www.fangraphs.com/prospects/the-board/2022-mlb-draft/summary?sort=-1,1&type=0&pg=0&pageitems=10000000000000

 

[Wingack]

View: https://twitter.com/yankeesmuse/status/1548853348216061952?s=21&t=yED-rwAEPnrNP-131dCv3w

 

[Wingack]

Latest picks:

View: https://twitter.com/nyyplayerdev/status/1549098526541598722?s=21&t=AQ5e4cDAxeiEZmCXt_Akfw

 

[Wingack]

View: https://twitter.com/nyyplayerdev/status/1549104557715865607?s=21&t=AQ5e4cDAxeiEZmCXt_Akfw

 

[Wingack]

View: https://twitter.com/nyyplayerdev/status/1549112803184746497?s=21&t=AQ5e4cDAxeiEZmCXt_Akfw

 

[Murderer's Crow]

View: https://twitter.com/yankeesmuse/status/1548853348216061952?s=21&t=yED-rwAEPnrNP-131dCv3w

Even his swing is similar.

 

[Wingack]

Fishman gives a run down of the top 20 picks of the Yankees.

Man did they go heavy on college pitchers.

View: https://twitter.com/elijfishman/status/1551738358094827520?s=20&t=5Ai4pykDiM6FDlRZCyE8KQ

 

[jon abbey]

I think the idea there is that Matt Blake and crew are so good at developing guys that they can trade a bunch of their AA/AAA SP prospects now and Blake will hopefully just keep the assembly line churning behind them. Will Warren as a 2021 8th round pick and already in AA and crushing is the blueprint, NY can put a lot of money into scouting and they know the kind of raw talent they can best work with.

Fangraphs really likes Thorpe, they have him as NY’s #10 prospect already, Jones at #14.

https://www.fangraphs.com/prospects/the-board/2022-in-season-prospect-list/summary?sort=-1,1&team=nyy

 

[Wingack]

Yeah I totally think that is the strategy too.

 

[jon abbey]

NY signed all 20 picks.

 

[jon abbey]

Three guys from this draft class are consensus top 100 picks, Spencer Jones, Drew Thorpe (now in SD), and Chase Hampton.

Well done NY!