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Milan Lucic is going to take a spin of the wheel for punching Kole Sherwood.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YrZTUeTWAc
in light of this, this thread is good reading.


I nailed Lucic, Marchand....not as much
 

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Credit to the CBJ announcing team - they had every right to go over the top like Edwards or Errey would if someone on their team got an unprompted assault carried out on them, but they kept it pretty measured.

Lucic must be seeing Neal lighting it up again and feel he has to do something every night to earn his current deal. Next best thing is to forfeit it with suspensions I guess
 

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This may be threadworthy on its own, but I'm going to start here just in case it doesn't garner a response.

That said, Don Cherry REALLY stepped in it last night.

Remembrance Day is Tuesday, and most Canadians will donate some pocket change to the Legion to wear a plastic poppy for a few days before the ceremonies. Well, in his fervor to help donations, Don may have gone full Bernier and implied immigrants don't care about the military. I would post the whole Coach's Corner for context, but Sportsnet has scrubbed it from the internet for the time being. If you have NHL.tv, you can probably find it on all three early HNIC games (Flyers-Leafs, Kings-Habs, Hurricanes-Senators) during the 1st intermission, so in its stead, I'm relying on a clip played by a Canadian vlogger I just found in my search for the clip:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abkAnBwoqz0


For full context, the only part missing from the clip at the beginning is how Don was talking to a Legion member in Mississauga that decided he wasn't going to run the poppy campaign this year due to low donations. That's it.

I think a sign of how bad this one has gone is Sportsnet scrubbing the segment from wherever it could, but I did find the original video link in a google search. That link just went to their generic video section, so...yeah. I've said for a while that Don's become Canada's cranky grandfather (probably great-grandfather for a lot of people), and while some of us are just used to his rambling, for him to go full xenophobe on the heels of an election that had immigration as a core contentious issue, this doesn't help matters. I'm not the best person to ask, since I thought Coach's Corner needed to be recast or scrapped years ago, but maybe this will change some minds at Sportsnet. We'll see.
 

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Leafs lose Marner for 4 weeks to an ankle injury. They also lost to Chicago 5-4 last night.

Interesting times in Leafland. They are a pedestrian 9-6-4, 6 ROW, 95 point pace. Not bad, not great, especially for a team with the kind of talent they have. The problem for them is there isn’t a ton they can do with the roster because they are capped out. Hutchinson has been a disaster as backup G but they don’t have a ton of options to replace him.
 

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I saw it. On a Don Cherry batshit scale of 1 to 10, this is a 10. It is conceivable he won't survive this.
It's crazy if he does survive it. That apology by MacLean made me cringe, not by any fault of his own, but just the fact that HE had to do it. Apologizing for not catching it in the moment, letting it persist, and taking it all on himself. That was real stand-up stuff. Put Cherry back on screen and let him 'apologize.' He probably couldn't even do if he read it from the prompted. He'd likely call out some more of "those people" he has issues with and bury himself even further.
 

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Ron MacLean needs some time off to think about it. His apology is accepted I would assume but damn; nodding and giving the thumbs up is condoning it. Fuck these guys.
 

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Wow. It's the right call but wow, the end of an era. They should have pulled him years ago to avoid this black eye.
Interesting to read the comments to the official statement tweet, most are defending Cherry and attacking SportsNet for being soft. Lots of whataboutism with Trudeau, too. Weird times we are in. #DonCherryIsRight is trending and people are signing petitions. He's such a huge figure in Canada, this is going to escalate.
 
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Like it or not, Don Cherry has been doing coach's corner for 40 years and is a big deal. Sportsnet had to be a little respectful with how they handled this.

Even so, they are still going to face backlash for firing him.
 

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Like it or not, Don Cherry has been doing coach's corner for 40 years and is a big deal. Sportsnet had to be a little respectful with how they handled this.

Even so, they are still going to face backlash for firing him.
The comments on Twitter are predominantly in favor of Don, unfortunately. Crazy but not surprised in this day and age. This is not Don's first controversial moment; he's had a few others but this obviously was the last straw.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/sports/don-cherry-s-history-of-controversial-comments-1.4680505
 

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If that is the case and he might have survived with an apology they are lucky he didn't do so
I would guess the ideal scenario for Sportsnet would have been for him to make a statement where he gave a sincere seeming apology and announced he was retiring/stepping down.
 

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I think the writing was on the wall when Sportsnet went through the pain of digitally scrubbing the other night's Coach's Corner. A business that normally pumps that segment out within minutes of airing it doesn't go that far unless they really feel like they have to get rid of it.

I would guess the ideal scenario for Sportsnet would have been for him to make a statement where he gave a sincere seeming apology and announced he was retiring/stepping down.
Yeah, that's probably exactly what they wanted, but Don was going down with that ship. I'd imagine they'd give him the rest of the season, too. Let's not forget that Ron was replaced as the main HNiC host in 2014 by George Stroumboulopoulos, but angry fans demanded Ron come back, so Rogers definitely hears the loudest voices out there. Speaking of...

The comments on Twitter are predominantly in favor of Don, unfortunately.
Just change that to "the Internet". The CBC PEI Facebook page put a link to the story up, and the replies are just a spew of "but did he REALLY say anything wrong?" sprinkled with a few "he was just misunderstood"s and the odd "good riddance". One guy even went so far as to say he was cancelling his "Rodgers" cell phone. And with all those comments comes the reminder that Don does, indeed, have a Charter right to free speech. But the RCMP didn't knock down his door, so people can really stop with that line of argument.

They’ve got Brian Burke. Wonder if he is the replacement.
Don't laugh, they might be considering it. Though, if I had to guess, they'll trot Ron out there by himself this weekend to take the slings and arrows on the slot, put together a few highlights of the segment over the decades, and quietly scrap it in favour of showing highlights of early games and the other 7:00 PM ET 1st periods.
 

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Also, how the hell is Brian Burke a full two decades YOUNGER than Don? Granted, I wasn't around for his playing days, but he's looked old for a few years.
 

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Burkie is an opinionated old school hockey guy, but pretty harmless as far as I know. I don’t think he’d completely fly off the handle like Cherry. Leafs fans probably hate him though. He’d be able to dole out the entertaining but dumb takes no problem. Get rid of the nerds, bring me moar grit and truculence! Also being mad at the Hurricanes for their celebrations. Probably wouldn’t be able to get him to change the tie undone look though.
 

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If they are going to keep it, a Burke-led CC probably makes the undone look his thing. I can see people coming around if he offers similar opinions, but asking him to wear some of Cherry's suits would probably be way over the line.

As far as his likeliness to say outrageously horrible things, considering his late son's history, I'd like to think he can avoid that fairly easily.