Not Being a Joker, We Need A The Finals Thread

[Jimbodandy]

Oscar Robertson and Elgin Baylor?

Maybe. Baylor would be seriously undersized in today's game for what he did and his overall shooting numbers (which were good in 1960) would be considered abysmal now. .489 TS% in 1960, which would be second worst in the NBA this year. Oscar would have a better shot, although his speed against 1s and girth against 2s and 3s would probably be a problem. He'd make the league, but I'm not convinced that he'd start. He had decent enough shooting skills, but he'd rely on craftiness.

Probably are some guys that we can make a case for, but they'd largely be hidden among today's athletes overall. And the difference in what shooting skill was considered "acceptable" back then is kinda astonishing.

 

[HereComesthePizza]

Maybe. Baylor would be seriously undersized in today's game for what he did and his overall shooting numbers (which were good in 1960) would be considered abysmal now. .489 TS% in 1960, which would be second worst in the NBA this year. Oscar would have a better shot, although his speed against 1s and girth against 2s and 3s would probably be a problem. He'd make the league, but I'm not convinced that he'd start. He had decent enough shooting skills, but he'd rely on craftiness.

Probably are some guys that we can make a case for, but they'd largely be hidden among today's athletes overall. And the difference in what shooting skill was considered "acceptable" back then is kinda astonishing.

Can we have todays players switch to stiff rims and no 3 point line? Comparing shooting percentages across eras isn’t as straightforward as it seems. If you don’t believe me go shoot at a modern rim versus an old school one.

 

[Just a bit outside]

Kevin Love fouled MPJ by hitting his elbow 2-3 times and didn’t get called. Hard to miss such an obvious foul.

 

[Just a bit outside]

I think the refs forgot their whistles. This is like a 90s game.

 

[Ed Hillel]

This officiating is a disaster wow

 

[Ed Hillel]

Martin caught his own airball and scored.

 

[Imbricus]

Kevin Love fouled MPJ by hitting his elbow 2-3 times and didn’t get called. Hard to miss such an obvious foul.

Ha! I was just going to post this. Miami can't complain about the whistle they're getting.

 

[HomeRunBaker]

Can we have todays players switch to stiff rims and no 3 point line? Comparing shooting percentages across eras isn’t as straightforward as it seems. If you don’t believe me go shoot at a modern rim versus an old school one.

7-hour school bus or train rides, cheap hotels, bad food, warped floors and terrible footwear. Todays players cannot even comprehend. The Garden floor, even as late as the Bird years, was worse than most middle school guys back then. This is not hyperbole.

 

[Ed Hillel]

I mean

 

[Ed Hillel]

Jokic is clearly hobbled. Unreal.

 

[Ed Hillel]

Omg what a bailout

 

[Ed Hillel]

3 free points

 

[CoffeeNerdness]

Heat and opponent's ankles.

 

[Ed Hillel]

Don’t think that was actually a travel.

 

[luckiestman]

Heat and opponent's ankles.

its the new market inefficieny

 

[stp130]

Uh, what?? Jokic never touched him.

 

[ElUno20]

Mpj cant make point blank layups. He's missed like 3 already

 

[CoffeeNerdness]

its the new market inefficieny

Buy low, sell high ankle.

 

[InstaFace]

Edit: oh well, whatever, nevermind

 

[Pablo's TB Lover]

Gordon has been showing his "Truth" this quarter. I had thought he could develop into a PP34 light, but the guy could just never shoot well enough.

 

[shoosh77]

Why aren’t they bailing out on Butler. That’s all he’s looking to do.

 

[ElUno20]

This butler garbage has to stop. 80% of his game is just garbage calls. Hate watching him play basketball

 

[Dave Stapleton]

Mark Jackson should be done as a PBP guy. He’s awful to begin with but his failure to log a vote for Jokic is disqualifying

And why are the refs bailing out Butler?

 

[SemperFidelisSox]

Murray needs to step up in the second half.

 

[Ale Xander]

Jackson’s tie and jacket clash horribly

 

[Jed Zeppelin]

Denver offense has a lot of purposeful movement toward/near the basket. Murray is under a lot of pressure on the perimeter but he’s taking what’s there to find space, wait for the cutter, or be the cutter himself. Not forcing anything dumb, no turnovers.

Edit: Bam is one of the worst great players or best bad players I’ve ever seen. I can’t ever figure out if I think he is really skilled or just athletic enough to hide the fact he’s actually not skilled at all. Sometimes he plays like his ass is on fire and other times like he doesn’t give a shit. Really weird player.

 

[The Social Chair]

Heat and opponent's ankles.

Just coincidence I'm sure, but Giannis, Tatum, and Jokic all injured by the Heat.

 

[stp130]

Damn, Denver is just so smooth.

 

[luckiestman]

If we were doing similarity scores, who is Nugget comp?

Better version of Gasoline/ Connelly Grizz? Stockton/Malone Jazz? Who else?

 

[Ale Xander]

Best Kevin Love play in the last 3 years?

 

[DeJesus Built My Hotrod]

Love throwing hisself around like it's 2013

 

[Jed Zeppelin]

“Kevin Love with a big impact!” (-13)

 

[luckiestman]

Best Kevin Love play in the last 3 years?

Love Stinks!

 

[shoosh77]

No wonder Messi wants to play in Miami. They’re a soccer town already with all the flopping.

 

[Jed Zeppelin]

That fast break kickout bricked three was a classic Celtics-style blunder by the Nuggs.

 

[The Social Chair]

If we were doing similarity scores, who is Nugget comp?

Better version of Gasoline/ Connelly Grizz? Stockton/Malone Jazz? Who else?

77 Blazers?

 

[Ed Hillel]

If we were doing similarity scores, who is Nugget comp?

Better version of Gasoline/ Connelly Grizz? Stockton/Malone Jazz? Who else?

Spurs with Duncan and Parker/Manu

 

[joe dokes]

I hate to be the guy tooting the Wilt horn, and a lot of the Wilt stories are apocryphal, but Wilt was a competitive track and field athlete and strongman in his day. I get that the kids want to act like everyone who played before 1985 was junk, but 1960 Wilt could start in this league now. Probably aren't any other 1960 NBA roster guys who could. If I could have either guy at their peak on my team now, it would be Giannis, but for skills reasons, not athleticism.

Wilt was a Globetrotter.

 

[shoosh77]

Nice elbow stuck out on the screen by Butler.

 

[Ale Xander]

If we were doing similarity scores, who is Nugget comp?

Better version of Gasoline/ Connelly Grizz? Stockton/Malone Jazz? Who else?

Hard to say. Not many teams in history where best passer is the C, and the PG doesn't distribute but scores a ton

 

[luckiestman]

77 Blazers?

Is that the pre Breaks of the Game team. I read don’t remember if I finished that book but it starts after that season I think.

 

[AB in DC]

Not sure how that didn't go in.

 

[luckiestman]

Spurs with Duncan and Parker/Manu

I don’t know, maybe a metric would show that but not the vibe I get.

 

[joe dokes]

Somehow I only now just realized that Michael is Brendan Malone's son.

 

[Ale Xander]

Is she hurt or drunk?

 

[joe dokes]

The man in the suit has just bought a new car....

 

[Nomar813]

Is she hurt or drunk?

Either way, baller move clutching onto that purse like Sophia Petrillo.

 

[luckiestman]

Florida is the Wild West; overheard in the Lucky house tonight “dad, you can’t just shoot a gun in your yard”

 

[Ale Xander]

AG50 balling

 

[DeJesus Built My Hotrod]

Gordon draining that three and letting Miami's bench know about it.