Noah Song’s baseball fate still In limbo
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If I was the Phillies, I'd consider putting Song on the 60 day IL, remove him from the 26 man roster, have him spend this year getting in to pitching shape including a "rehab stint" in the minors, he'll get paid the major league salary, and then see if he is ready to contribute for at least 90 games in the majors next year:
"A Rule 5 Draft pick can be placed on the Major League injured list, but he must be active for a minimum of 90 days to avoid being subject to the aforementioned roster restrictions in the next campaign."
"A Rule 5 Draft pick can be placed on the Major League injured list, but he must be active for a minimum of 90 days to avoid being subject to the aforementioned roster restrictions in the next campaign."
In fairness, I tend to have this effect on most places I frequent.
You're free from blame, it's the self-styled Henny Youngmans (Youngmen?) who shouldn't quit their day jobs who draw my ire.
The Phillies just put Song on the 15 day IL. Why would they make a move like that?
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Because he's not hurt that badly?
60-day IL means he's shut down a minimum of 30 days (can't do more than 30 days of a rehab assignment). That's probably not what they want if they are trying to get him back in pitching shape.
Edit to add, I don't think they can add him to the 60-day IL since that would remove him from the 40-man roster (albeit temporarily).
I did a quick research to find out what's happened in April, and he's still on the 15 day DL.
How long do the Phillies get to just let Song be on the 15 day DL? At what point do the Sox raise there hand in protest to MLB? If I understand correctly, the rules are different if he goes on the 60 Day DL.
How long do the Phillies get to just let Song be on the 15 day DL? At what point do the Sox raise there hand in protest to MLB? If I understand correctly, the rules are different if he goes on the 60 Day DL.
Maybe the rules have changed but I think he needs to be on the active roster for a year. And if he goes on rehab the clock starts.
I remember Adam Stern had to be on the active roster for the first month of the next season because he spent time on the DL (as it was called then).
My understanding is that he can remain on the IL all year and the Sox can't do a thing. But he has to be active and on the 26-man roster for a minimum of 90 days before the Phillies can call him entirely theirs (free to option to the minors, etc). And that 90 days can extend into next season if he's on the IL for too long this year.
I think this is right. The Phillies can create, essentially, a year long rehab stint for him since he hasn't played competitive baseball in so long. I anticipate at some point, if they haven't already, the Philly will move him to the 60 day IL and free up a roster spot. And Song gets paid the majors minimum salary? So, a win for everyone but the Red Sox.
Rehab only in the sense that he can throw on the side and build up arm strength he may have lost while serving. He won't get much if any game experience while he's on the IL. Not unless the Phillies want to play the game of letting him rehab for 29 days, then shut down for two weeks due to "re-injury" or a new "injury" in order to reset his rehab clock, then start over. That might be enough to prompt accusations of impropriety though.
Song got moved to the 60 day IL today. Lower back strain.
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This is actually pretty meaningless, he's been on the IL since the season began which is already over 50 days so he's still eligible to come back sometime during the next 2 weeks. It's just a procedural move.