NLCS Giants Vs Cardinals Game Thread

[nattysez]

The last time Jake Peavy pitched in an LCS he gave up 7 ER in 3 IP against Detroit in the 2013 ALCS.
The last time Jake Peavy faced the Cards in the playoffs, he got lifted after giving up 6H, a walk and 2 ER over 4 IP in the 2013 WS. 
 
It's hard to believe that he's the Giants' #2 starter, but here we are.

 

[E5 Yaz]

If it comes to it, I can live with a Giants-Royals WS. Hell, I'd even get excited to watch that. 

 
this is precisely what i'm rooting for

 

[gaelgirl]

Is this a city thing, a Cardinals thing, or both?

Because while I have no desire to live in St Louis, the best baseball development in my lifetime is the Red Sox becoming more like the Cardinals. And the more like the Cardinals they become, the better.

I understand why they are hated. Half the baseball world would give their left nut for Molina. The half that wouldn't would give their right nut for Matheny as their manager. For the next 20 years.

I just can't get a Pittsburgh Steelers level of hatred up for these guys. Even though my National League team is the Nationals. I want my teams to be just like them.

This is as far as I've gotten into this thread, but I wanted to respond. 
 
As a die-hard Giants fan lacking possession of (though thoroughly appreciative of) nuts, I would give up neither my left tit nor my right tit for Molina or Matheny. I'd much rather have Posey and Bochy, though Matheny is an incredible manager, too. But I don't think Bochy is going to last 20 more years. 

Anyway, great game tonight for the Giants. It's not pretty, and it's not always loud, but we just seem to win in October. It's insane. We take advantage of mistakes and just don't let go. Also, having Madison Bumgarner (and balk-averse umpires) doesn't hurt. 

 

[Al Zarilla]

This is as far as I've gotten into this thread, but I wanted to respond. 
 
As a die-hard Giants fan lacking possession of (though thoroughly appreciative of) nuts, I would give up neither my left tit nor my right tit for Molina or Matheny. I'd much rather have Posey and Bochy, though Matheny is an incredible manager, too. But I don't think Bochy is going to last 20 more years. 

Anyway, great game tonight for the Giants. It's not pretty, and it's not always loud, but we just seem to win in October. It's insane. We take advantage of mistakes and just don't let go. Also, having Madison Bumgarner (and balk-averse umpires) doesn't hurt. 

Holy crap, another gender heard from with an "I wouldn't give parts" post!
 
I have no idea how Matheny is as a manager, but he seems like a cold fish. Bochy is like the Little League kid's grandfather that everybody loves when he comes out to coach the team and gets every possible bit of talent out of a bunch of mostly average players. Yadier is a great catcher but Posey isn't bad either and he may be the best quiet team leader around. Really, how do we know if Matheny is a good manager or if it's the great Cardinals system that brings the team success?

 

[glasspusher]

Holy crap, another gender heard from with an "I wouldn't give parts" post!
 
I have no idea how Matheny is as a manager, but he seems like a cold fish. Bochy is like the Little League kid's grandfather that everybody loves when he comes out to coach the team and gets every possible bit of talent out of a bunch of mostly average players. Yadier is a great catcher but Posey isn't bad either and he may be the best quiet team leader around. Really, how do we know if Matheny is a good manager or if it's the great Cardinals system that brings the team success?

 
I never equated tits to nuts, but that's just me.
 
Agree with your Matheny assessment as far as emotion. Comes from the stone faced Tony LaRussa mold. Haven't heard Bochy speak much before last night, but clearly being a silver tongued smoothie isn't what he's getting paid to do. Seems genuine, and yes, the Cards have a much better organization through and through, and it's a credit to Bochy to be playing even with them now.

 

[jimc]

I don't know, I thought Matheny had a touch of Scioscia Face going on last night. Not a good look for a playoff manager.

 

[glasspusher]

I don't know, I thought Matheny had a touch of Scioscia Face going on last night. Not a good look for a playoff manager.

 
I'm struggling to remember what Scioscia looked like during the 2002 playoffs. I was too happy to see Barry Bonds not win a WS that I ignored everything else.

 

[joyofsox]

San Francisco
Blanco, CF
Panik, 2B
Posey, C
Sandoval, 3B
Pence, RF
Belt, 1B
Crawford, SS
Ishikawa, LF
Peavy, P
 
St. Louis
Carpenter, 3B
Jay, CF
Holliday, LF
Adams, 1B
Peralta, SS
Molina, C
Wong, 2B
Grichuk, RF
Lynn, P
 

 

[joyofsox]

MLB article about Statcast with seven video clips from ALCS2 for those who (like me) can't access Statcast during the game
 
http://m.mlb.com/news/article/98299790/statcast-a-groundbreaking-look-at-top-lcs-plays

 

[nvalvo]

How many of these "pregame conversations" with players simply never happened?

 

[DeJesus Built My Hotrod]

Panik is the Giants MVP.   This kid never hits like he has and they don't make the post-season.

 

[Rough Carrigan]

So, did Adam Wainwright have an excuse for being mediocre against the Giants like he did for his World Series game 1 stinker versus the Sox last year?

 

[DeJesus Built My Hotrod]

keithlaw ‏@keithlaw  5m5 minutes ago
Oh, I wondered what the thing was. “@SixToolPlayer: "The thing about Lance Lynn is, throw the numbers out." -- Harold Reynolds”

 

[DeJesus Built My Hotrod]

So, did Adam Wainwright have an excuse for being mediocre against the Giants like he did for his World Series game 1 stinker versus the Sox last year?

Sore elbow.  He is like Chris Carpenter except that he actually pitches in the game.
 
Grichuk!!!

 

[nvalvo]

Great play from Randall Grichuk. 
 
That said, Bradley catches that ball on his feet. 

 

[nvalvo]

Lynn not fooling anyone. 

 

[Rough Carrigan]

Lynn not fooling anyone. 

Maybe he need to incorporate that numbers thing?

 

[Rough Carrigan]

And speaking of not fooling anyone, here's the man who operated a one card monte stand at Fenway Park, Jake Peavy.

 

[nvalvo]

Maybe he need to incorporate that numbers thing?

 
No, Rough — I heard you should throw those out. 

 

[DeJesus Built My Hotrod]

And speaking of not fooling anyone, here's the man who operated a one card monte stand at Fenway Park, Jake Peavy.

He's pretty good at it.  Grab some pine, meat.

 

[Sprowl]

Thruppence!

 

[MakMan44]

Hunter Pence looks like a really bad fielder 
 
What I meant is that he takes some really weird routes. 

 

[Al Zarilla]

Pence catch cancels out Grichuk's.

 

[nvalvo]

Buck truped that Jon Jay flyout something fierce. 

 

[Rough Carrigan]

Hunter Pence looks like a really bad fielder 

He looks like a really bad everything.  But he's actually pretty good.  That's a big part of his charm.

 

[Al Zarilla]

Hunter Pence looks like a really bad fielder 

?

 

[DeJesus Built My Hotrod]

Crawford can play.

 

[Sprowl]

Panik is the Giants MVP.   This kid never hits like he has and they don't make the post-season.

 
Where did he emerge from? He's the one Giant who came out of nowhere (at least to a bandwagon fan like me).

 

[MakMan44]

?

I know he's not actually a shitty fielder, he just took a weird route to the ball. To my eyes, he made the play harder than it had to be. 

 

[DeJesus Built My Hotrod]

He looks like a really bad everything.  But he's actually pretty good.  That's a big part of his charm.

 
Its true.  His mechanics are absolutely unique to him and if any kid started doing what he does they would run into all sorts of trouble.

 

[Al Zarilla]

 
Where did he emerge from? He's the one Giant who came out of nowhere (at least to a bandwagon fan like me).

The raisin capital of the world (Fresno).
 
Born in Yonkers, NY.

 

[MakMan44]

 
Where did he emerge from? He's the one Giant who came out of nowhere (at least to a bandwagon fan like me).

1st round pick from a few years ago. From what I read, this is about as good as he's going to be. His minor league numbers mostly agree. 

 

[MakMan44]

Well that's interesting. I've never heard that about Pence. 

 

[nvalvo]

 
Where did he emerge from? He's the one Giant who came out of nowhere (at least to a bandwagon fan like me).

 
The SF farm system had been incredibly productive — Cain, Lincecum, Panda, Posey, Bumgarner, Crawford, Belt, Romo, etc. — and my feeling is that people started to downplay those prospects whose ceiling topped out at "acceptable regular."
 
We were the beneficiary of that with Edwin Escobar. He wasn't likely to shake out to be Matt Cain, so he was expendable. 

 

[staz]

Who had a Milan Lucic reference in the NLDS?

 

[Rough Carrigan]

Want another one like that, read up on Al Kaline and his foot.

 

[nvalvo]

Nah, Buck. Crawford's very good, but Simmons is way better. 

 

[nvalvo]

Carpenter is a disaster at third. 

 

[MakMan44]

Carpenter is a disaster at third. 

BUT HAROLD REYNOLDS TOLD ME HE'S BEEN A STAR SINCE HE STARTED PLAYING 3RD 

 

[DeJesus Built My Hotrod]

The thing about Harold Reynolds is that you can throw out the numbers on him.  In all seriousness, its amazing how well liked he is by casual fans, at least those with whom I am familiar.

 

[mauidano]

Want another one like that, read up on Al Kaline and his foot.

I did not know that! He was my favorite player when I was a little kid.
 
http://blog.detroitathletic.com/2012/12/19/nine-things-you-didnt-know-about-al-kaline/

 

[Sprowl]

1st round pick from a few years ago. From what I read, this is about as good as he's going to be. His minor league numbers mostly agree. 

 
It's always interesting when a #1 pick pans out just in time. Good rookies can do great things (ELJE&DP2007)
 

Carpenter is a disaster at third. 

 
Against the Giants, yes. He looked like a five-tool player against the Dodgers, though.

 

[DeJesus Built My Hotrod]

Matt Adams looks like he could give Pablo a run for his money in a hotdog eating contest.

 

[Sprowl]

Fourpence.

 

[DeJesus Built My Hotrod]

Peavy causing FS1 to use their cough button.   Hahahaha

 

[nvalvo]

Back in the waning days of Barry Bonds, I thought Travis Ishikawa was the Giants' next franchise left fielder, a future superstar who would lead them to pennant after pennant. After tearing up the Cal League, he'd come up as a September call-up and raked. 
 
It turns out that I was... correct? 

 

[Al Zarilla]

Between the crowd screaming on every Cards flyball and Joey the same, lot of Truping going on.

 

[SemperFidelisSox]

Peavy doesn't Panik.

 

[nvalvo]

Between the crowd screaming on every Cards flyball and Joey the same, lot of Truping going on.

 
I wonder where Trupiano is now. 

 

[DeJesus Built My Hotrod]

"Grichuk's got a lot of power."  Grounds meekly to third