N'Keal Harry WR ASU
6'2 228 lbs
4.53 40
27 reps on bench
38 inch vert
73 catches, 1,088 yards 9 TDs
6'2 228 lbs
4.53 40
27 reps on bench
38 inch vert
73 catches, 1,088 yards 9 TDs
Great YAC potential but going to drive us absolutely nuts when he tries to make space by running 5 yards the wrong way.Someone tell me how to overreact to this
He’s not an OL, DL or LB where they are WAY TOO THIN.Someone tell me how to overreact to this
FTFYThey need a Red Zone guy and it may as well be him. As long as he's on the same page withBradyRosen, it'll be fine.
Players who could be drafted should skip their team’s bowl game, to me that’s a point in his favorOther than skipping his team’s bowl game, there isn’t much to dislike about this guy.
This is the LEAST “safe for work” highlights package soundtrack I’ve ever heard.N'Keal Harry WR ASU
6'2 228 lbs
4.53 40
27 reps on bench
38 inch vert
73 catches, 1,088 yards 9 TDs
FWIW, Reiss had a note that Harry had 1 red zone TD on 10 targets.They need a Red Zone guy and it may as well be him. As long as he's on the same page with Brady, it'll be fine.
Why would you dislike that?Other than skipping his team’s bowl game, there isn’t much to dislike about this guy.
I've seen him described as a good blocker in the run game. Now, maybe not, but I'd rather it described as a strength than a weakness.I wonder how his blocking in the run game is. Certainly has the size/ strength you want but how that translates to the field remains to be seen.
Yeah, I see this pick as part of a continuing commitment to bully ball. The rest of the league wants to go lighter and faster? That's great, our 250-pound LBs will maul the crap out of your receivers at the line, and good luck tackling our new 228-pound WR with linebackers who weigh about the same. If they add 6'4", 211-pound CB Joejuan Williams tonight, as rumored, it will be more along these lines.Great write up SN. My understanding is that Hogan was highly regarded for his blocking so perhaps the year 1 expectations should be a Hogan replacement with a much higher ceiling. This offense is likely to continue to become more balanced if not a run heavy team, adding a 220 lb blocking WR can only help.
What skill or ability is needed to be good against the press? It seems to me like a WR who is great at blocking, which Harry supposedly is would have no problem against a press, but that clearly doesn't seem to be the case based on any scouting reports I've read.Really struggles versus press; does not have the quicks to win the desired shoulder at the line of scrimmage and does not use his hand.
Great job, SN. This aligns pretty closely with how I viewed him as well. I thought the Oregon corner (decent player, will get drafted this weekend) in particular really gave Harry fits in press coverage. My red flags were a lack of a 2nd gear and struggles getting off the line of scrimmage. I think he'll get better over time with his releases, but the play speed is something you have or don't have. He really reminded me of 2018 Josh Gordon in terms of size, physicality, play speed and separation. That's not a bad thing by any means, but I think his play speed limits his ceiling somewhat. But like Gordon, there should be plenty of wow plays thanks to Harry's strength, vision and ball skills.Here was my scouting report for Harry for the Locked on Patriots Slack channel:
And yet Harry still went for 7-105 in that game. Don't forget: Manny Wilkins is was pretty bad QB with major accuracy issues. The fact that Harry could be that productive with such an errant passer bodes well at the next level. I'm not wild about what I see from Harry off the line but that's coachable stuff. His game reminds of a more physical Malcolm Mitchell without the injury issues. I like the pick.Great job, SN. This aligns pretty closely with how I viewed him as well. I thought the Oregon corner (decent player, will get drafted this weekend) in particular really gave Harry fits in press coverage.
There's more than one way to skin a cat. You can win with quickness, a sudden move at the line to win the release they want (usually outside, by sometimes inside). You can win with misdirection, feinting one way and cutting the other or doing a little hesitation and then going. You can win with hand-fighting, ripping the DB's hands away or swimming past the jam. The best at beating press (Metcalf, in this class) have multiple moves and techniques. Harry just kind of stuttered his feet at the line and didn't go anywhere.What skill or ability is needed to be good against the press? It seems to me like a WR who is great at blocking, which Harry supposedly is would have no problem against a press, but that clearly doesn't seem to be the case based on any scouting reports I've read.
I don't see Mitchell at all. I thought Mitchell's best quality was his ability to separate, which isn't Harry's game. Meanwhile Harry much better at contested catches and run after the catch.And yet Harry still went for 7-105 in that game. Don't forget: Manny Wilkins is was pretty bad QB with major accuracy issues. The fact that Harry could be that productive with such an errant passer bodes well at the next level. I'm not wild about what I see from Harry off the line but that's coachable stuff. His game reminds of a more physical Malcolm Mitchell without the injury issues. I like the pick.
I see a lower end Dez Bryant or Anquan Boldin with Harry which is very good IMO. This isn't a reach and rely on his potential like Aaron Dobson was. Harry should be able to step in and play.I don't see Mitchell at all. I thought Mitchell's best quality was his ability to separate, which isn't Harry's game. Meanwhile Harry much better at contested catches and run after the catch.
So some of this can be learned, good.There's more than one way to skin a cat. You can win with quickness, a sudden move at the line to win the release they want (usually outside, by sometimes inside). You can win with misdirection, feinting one way and cutting the other or doing a little hesitation and then going. You can win with hand-fighting, ripping the DB's hands away or swimming past the jam. The best at beating press (Metcalf, in this class) have multiple moves and techniques. Harry just kind of stuttered his feet at the line and didn't go anywhere.
Better long speed would help against press (can scare the DB into flipping hips early), but I don't see why, from a physical tools perspective, he could not learn to release against press better. But it disturbs me he doesn't have more from a technique standpoint at this stage of his career, and he has a long way to go. Some technique growth is fair to assume, but I thought Harry was kind of a mess.
It's worth noting some people, like Matt Waldman, saw more from Harry against press than I did.
I watched Mitchell a ton at UGA. The knocks on him coming out of college were that he struggled with physical, press coverage corners, sometimes had trouble getting separation and had just average top-end speed. Just like Harry. Both guys excelled in the intermediate passing game and both were far above average in contested catch rate (Mitchell was above 60% his last year at Georgia.) Main differences are that Harry is physically bigger and more elusive in the open field.I don't see Mitchell at all. I thought Mitchell's best quality was his ability to separate, which isn't Harry's game. Meanwhile Harry much better at contested catches and run after the catch.