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LOL Raiders benching Carr for Stidham in one of the most blatant tank for higher pick moves in NFL history
LOL Raiders benching Carr for Stidham in one of the most blatant tank for higher pick moves in NFL history
Stidham against Bosa and the niners D in his first game… line has already jumped 3 points.
Not sure how I would feel if Stidham found success in the NFL. Although I'm also concerned about a Zombie Apocalypse and I'm not sure which is more likely
Well, that dude is getting cut or traded. His entire 2023 salary and about 1/4 of his 2024 - both of which are north of 30M - become guaranteed on 2/15, and they save about 30M against the cap if they cut/trade him by then.
EDIT - Didn’t see E5’s post with those tweets - I was going off Spotrac.
EDIT - Didn’t see E5’s post with those tweets - I was going off Spotrac.
Carr can get cut with little financial penalty and some guy in Tampa is available. I wonder what’s going to happen.
Can’t imagine a single guy with tons of money would enjoy living a year or two in Las Vegas.
But, seriously, seems like a perfect spot for him, if he wants to continue. Adams, Waller, Renfrow + Josh. Maybe Jacobs. Could do a lot worse.
I'm going back to the extended post-game discussion Josh had with Mac after the lateral debacle. Wouldn't surprise me if Josh tried to pry Jones away and get him back to how he played his first season.
If Brady comes back, I think it's SF or Miami
I made this prediction weeks ago. I think Carr ends up cut and lands in DC or Indy (lololololol on both of these options), and Brady is a Raider soon thereafter. The Niners make great sense for another ring, but they have little cap room to play with, and have get Lance playing regularly in order to get value out of a 5th year escalation. It'd be tough for them to get Brady the $25-30M he can command.
Carr has had a bad year, but I think he is worth more to the Raiders than Josh McDaniels. But yeah, he's going to be playing somewhere else next year.
He'll always have that last drive vs the Patriots where he shredded the defense as they ran that classic "prevent defense" and he got the game tying TD.
So he's got that going for him, which is nice.
So he's got that going for him, which is nice.
True, I just loved the story of two buddies finally getting a chance to play together on the big stage, just a shame it went as poorly as it did. I mean Carr was so good last year, how was he soooo bad this year with one of the best receivers in the league? Is Josh partially to blame?
The Raiders last year were an absolute disaster where the head coach was suspended for being a piece of shit and a WR literally killed someone with his car and Rich Bassachia took over and scratched and clawed his way to the playoffs and were inches away from beating the team that ultimately made the Super Bowl.
In response, Bassachia was let go for great reasons, I guess, and they hired a guy who clearly has had major success as a head coach in the NFL. In a surprise twice nobody saw coming, the team is a joke who loses humongous leads on a bi weekly basis, the season is lost, and now the starting QB is being benched to save money.
That's just good management.
He must be showing something in practice. Guy has the physical tools. I’m happy for him to get a start. Hopefully he don’t get demolished by the 9ers D.
Good spin: He realizes it's best if he steps away so Stidham doesn't look over his shoulder.
Bad spin: Buck the fuck up and be a good teammate.
If the team is benching you because the other guy is better, absolutely. If the team is benching you because they don't want to pay you going forward, the hell with that.
Is it that fucking hard to just say, "I wish it had gone better for me, but I'll give Stid whatever help he asks for or tell him if I see something that might help."
Given the contract terms, the last thing the Raiders would want is Carr going back in to take snaps and get injured. So, this "permission" looks like a convenient cover story for the team telling him he would not get another snap this season.
And what happens if Stidham gets hurt? The Niners will probably sack him 5-6 times. There is real injury risk here.
Obviously if there was any future at all with the McDaniels/Carr combo, he would at least stick around on the sidelines for the last 2 games.
Clearly they are moving on. Brady makes the most sense. Jimmy G to a lesser degree, though not sure they would view that as much of an upgrade.
Clearly they are moving on. Brady makes the most sense. Jimmy G to a lesser degree, though not sure they would view that as much of an upgrade.
Maybe the Raiders literally said, "stay away." Then maybe I'm being too harsh on Carr. Otherwise, it just seems petulant.
Garber? Easy as Pelham 1-2-3
Carr isn't starting and isn't going to be the backup. I doubt the Raiders even want him in the weight room working out. The Raiders have basically told him he's done there and please don't get hurt.
And I'm guessing some of his teammates are pissed too, so yeah, it probably is a distraction. Carr sticking around, teammates commiserating with him, and everything about the situation makes it harder, not easier, for Stidham to prepare for the last two games. Carr has never had a reputation as a bad teammate. I think if the team really wanted him around to help Stidham prepare, he'd do it.
Given his contract, Carr has had this hanging over his head all season. Now that they've made the decision, him stepping away is the right call for him and the team. If he doesn't retire, at least he has a no trade clause and can go where he wants. I'm sure there will be some teams interested.
And I'm guessing some of his teammates are pissed too, so yeah, it probably is a distraction. Carr sticking around, teammates commiserating with him, and everything about the situation makes it harder, not easier, for Stidham to prepare for the last two games. Carr has never had a reputation as a bad teammate. I think if the team really wanted him around to help Stidham prepare, he'd do it.
Given his contract, Carr has had this hanging over his head all season. Now that they've made the decision, him stepping away is the right call for him and the team. If he doesn't retire, at least he has a no trade clause and can go where he wants. I'm sure there will be some teams interested.
Of course I have no idea what's going on inside the Raiders' organization, but I really don't understand this.
In their last 6 games, the Raiders are 4-2. In Carr's last 8 games he's gone: 156-265 (58.9%), 1,901 yds, 7.2 y/a, 15 td, 9 int
I guess that's not very good, I suppose. It's not terrible though. I know he's thrown a lot of picks but he still seems like a pretty decent NFL quarterback. Obviously Josh wants a major improvement there.
Pats fans - would you rather have Derek Carr right now, with his contract, or Mac Jones with his?
In their last 6 games, the Raiders are 4-2. In Carr's last 8 games he's gone: 156-265 (58.9%), 1,901 yds, 7.2 y/a, 15 td, 9 int
I guess that's not very good, I suppose. It's not terrible though. I know he's thrown a lot of picks but he still seems like a pretty decent NFL quarterback. Obviously Josh wants a major improvement there.
Pats fans - would you rather have Derek Carr right now, with his contract, or Mac Jones with his?
I agree completely with this post.
He wasn’t gonna be active, so there is zero point to him hanging around.
Davante seems fired up and ready to go on Sunday…
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all of this. No way they want him near any raider property where he could get injured say lifting weights, and it triggers the guarantees.
I definitely do not want to pay Derek Carr $117m over the next three years, so between the two, I'll take Mac.
On Carr leaving the team, if your boss indicated that you were going to be fired in two weeks and then gave you the option of hanging out at the office or staying home until your firing, who in their right mind would go into the office?
Since I’m the leader of the “most QB stats are really unhelpful” club, those numbers don’t suggest that he’s been any good. A 58% completion rate in this era is awful. 9 picks in 6 games is also very bad. The only game I watched him in it’s entirety was vs. the Pats, and he looked lousy. The Raiders want to get him off the books, so this makes sense to me.
And I would not want Carr’s contract in any way.
Adams may be his buddy but the two of them have been awful for the last few weeks together. Adams has 9 catches on 25 targets last 3 weeks. 114 yards.
An early rundown on were Carr could land (yes, a Carr for Mac trade is included)
https://www.nfl.com/news/derek-carr-s-potential-landing-spots-in-2023-raiders-qb-on-his-way-out-of-las-ve
https://www.nfl.com/news/derek-carr-s-potential-landing-spots-in-2023-raiders-qb-on-his-way-out-of-las-ve
How does Carr's contact work if he accepts a trade? Three years with manageable cap hits if the team that trades for him wants to move on during the first two? If so, I think if he doesn't retire early that he could probably get a contract that has lower money by year but gives him more security on a longer deal with a team that he can choose himself if he refuses a trade. Let the Raiders cut him.
He was terrible this year, but he's 31 and I don't think he's washed. He could be, but maybe McD contributed to the problem(s). Who knows.
He was terrible this year, but he's 31 and I don't think he's washed. He could be, but maybe McD contributed to the problem(s). Who knows.
The new team would have to guarantee all of his 2023 salary and 7.5M of his 2024 salary. But he’d be very cuttable after the first year from cap and cash perspectives (large net cap savings and mostly non guaranteed salary).
The 4-2 run may have oddly been a point in favor of shutting down Carr. Remember, although perhaps overblown, that McDaniels was perceived as doing the worst job of coaches not named Nathaniel Hackett early in the season. I'm sure he went to ownership and said 'Do you guys really believe in me, because I may be making a major shakeup and after working close to a full season don't believe Carr is the guy to win us a Super Bowl.'
It doesn't hurt that Stidham also puts them at an even better chance of 6-11 and a top 10 draft pick. What good does Carr risking life and limb to pull upsets in the last few games do them? While not eliminated, they need to leapfrog 5 teams within 2 weeks to make the playoffs.
I didn't know the details of Carr's contract until now. The entire thing screams "cut me after a year." https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/las-vegas-raiders/derek-carr-14445/
A $7.5 million singing bonus for a QB and a one year delay until the rest of the guaranteed money vests?
If any of us had been looking at the contract when it was signed and wanted to analyze it, we all would have said (I imagine): That's a 1/25 contract, with a club option for a 3/115 deal for the next three years that will have to be restructured with guaranteed money for cap relief.
tl;dr -- Carr's contract was a dressed up one-year deal with significant injury protection for the player. Benching him once the team was out of playoff contention surely cannot be much of s surprise to Carr. That's what it was designed to do.
A $7.5 million singing bonus for a QB and a one year delay until the rest of the guaranteed money vests?
If any of us had been looking at the contract when it was signed and wanted to analyze it, we all would have said (I imagine): That's a 1/25 contract, with a club option for a 3/115 deal for the next three years that will have to be restructured with guaranteed money for cap relief.
tl;dr -- Carr's contract was a dressed up one-year deal with significant injury protection for the player. Benching him once the team was out of playoff contention surely cannot be much of s surprise to Carr. That's what it was designed to do.
Yeah, I think those points were discussed quite a bit in Raiders land and Carr knew what it was all about. He needed to jell with McD right away, play well, and the Raiders needed to win a lot more games for everything to work out for him. It's been hanging over him all season.
A lot of Raiders drama over the last couple of years. More to come, I think.
A lot of Raiders drama over the last couple of years. More to come, I think.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35341950/source-titans-start-qb-joshua-dobbs-vs-cowboys
Josh Dobbs is expected to start for the Titans against Dallas tonight. Signed from Detroit's practice squad a couple days ago. Yeah not going to end well but the game doesn't matter to them, soo....
Edit: The line is -14 for Dallas. On the road. Haha.
Josh Dobbs is expected to start for the Titans against Dallas tonight. Signed from Detroit's practice squad a couple days ago. Yeah not going to end well but the game doesn't matter to them, soo....
Edit: The line is -14 for Dallas. On the road. Haha.