NFL Free Agent Frenzy

cshea

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It would seem that Miami is the better spot. Feels like he's not a final piece for the Jets. But Jets gonna Jets.
 

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I feel like the Seahawks should be, Panthers maybe, honestly for the Giants I don't see it, Jones is younger and arguably better, and that team is in full rebuild mode.
Jones is better? I am not sure that Jones isn’t the single worst starting QB in the NFL right now and this is with Trubisky becoming the starter for the Steelers. I don’t think Mayfield fixes anything for the Giants, but Jones is only the answer if the question is list a QB that was drafted way too high.
 

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$230M guaranteed for Watson and Tyreek freaking Hill about to get the richest WR deal in the league.

I mean...ugh
 

soxin6

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I hope he goes to the Jets because the Jets are a much bigger piece of shit franchise, and they deserve to have the ultimate piece of shit toil away there under a cap killing contract. Fuck all parties involved though.
Both franchises can burn in hell, so he fits right in with both of them. It is a move that makes no sense for the Jets and it would making hating either team that much easier.
 

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He is the only player I actively root for to get injured, so give me the Jets and then have his legs snapped on the first play of the season.
 

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I'm just happy the other two teams in the AFCE aren't involved in these talks
 

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I'd much rather him go to the Jets. He won't move the needle there, and he'll be another Leveon Bell type, rotting away with a huge contract.
 

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He would not be enough for the Jets to make the playoffs, but he might be enough for the Jets to beat the Patriots at least once this coming season. Which would suck.
 

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Baker Mayfield is at his best running play action, (e.g. his 2020 season) so I think he would definitely fit into Pete's philosophy.

Baker was miserable this year. Nobody can argue otherwise, there were games where he was AWFUL and could barely complete a 5 yard out. And in a bunch of big games he was better at completing passes to the other team. And his performance in the first half of that Monday night game against Pittsburgh in Week 17 set the NFL back 40 decades.

But he was also injured pretty badly and shouldn't have been playing at all. Baker is good. He's not exceptional but he would be a good QB for any team to pick up.
He wasn't happy in an offense where they had a superior running game, which is what Pete wants, so there's no way he'd be happy in Seattle. Baker wants to throw and be the man. Pete wants to run, run, run. Not happening at any price.
 

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Hill would be dumb not to pick Miami. No state income tax makes that deal worth a lot more.
 

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Let’s do this, the Dolphins have no players on their current roster meriting hatred/acrimony, and it’ll be entertaining hearing the pained attempts to focus on Tua’s development and how every team probably has scumbags so back off/who cares.

Most importantly, it will make the Chiefs notably weaker because Hill is a unicorn talent in the NFL that demands a concerted game plan on defense.
 

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$230M guaranteed for Watson and Tyreek freaking Hill about to get the richest WR deal in the league.

I mean...ugh
I wonder how many of us would care if the Pats brought on a guy. I'm pretty sure I'd still watch every Pats game I can even if they had a star player who's a terrible person (at least if the team was good).
 

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Jones is better? I am not sure that Jones isn’t the single worst starting QB in the NFL right now and this is with Trubisky becoming the starter for the Steelers. I don’t think Mayfield fixes anything for the Giants, but Jones is only the answer if the question is list a QB that was drafted way too high.
He might be, but he's the one they have, he's younger, and he started last season pretty well despite playing on the least talented offense in the league with a bad coordinator, then he got concussed, his already bad offense lost it's best players and he picked up a couple more injuries. I think if you ask me, which of these QBs could be actually good in himself, in a year or two it is Jones, he has more talent, he can run, etc. Baker seems destined to be a guy who can have a good year if you surround him with a ton of talent and feed him play action looks. The difference between the two isn't big.
 

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He wasn't happy in an offense where they had a superior running game, which is what Pete wants, so there's no way he'd be happy in Seattle. Baker wants to throw and be the man. Pete wants to run, run, run. Not happening at any price.
well baker is in a rock and a hard place because all SF wants from their QB is to be a robot just hand it off and Pitt is hand it off and throw short if i was baker i wouild want my relase and then sign with pitt for 1 year
 

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Yes, that's right, very good. Mean Machine. Black & White, color, same difference. The prison team from The Longest Yard, that's what I mean. Home whites, away blacks, makes no difference. Thank you, Roethlisberger.
I didn’t mean to be Roethlisberger, just wondering why you posted Kris Kristofferson and Semi-Tough.
 

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I didn’t mean to be Roethlisberger, just wondering why you posted Kris Kristofferson and Semi-Tough.
Motherfucker, Burt Reynolds wore #22 in two football movies? One with Kris Kristofferson? Well, take that ribbon from my hair, shake it loose and let it fall...
 

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Motherfucker, Burt Reynolds wore #22 in two football movies? One with Kris Kristofferson? Well, take that ribbon from my hair, shake it loose and let it fall...
was asking a friend, other than the westerns did Burt Reynolds have a movie where he wasn't a former college football players? Bandit Darville? probably. Shamus McCoy? maybe at fordham but yes. WW Bright? quite possibly. Driver extraordinare JJ McCLue? Seems likely. Gator McKlusky? Without a doubt. Jack Horner--how do you think he first met the Colonel--probably an alumni booster thing where the colonel met the players, right? Congressman David DIlbeck? Again a character who would have walked straight from the practice field into running for office.
 

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was asking a friend, other than the westerns did Burt Reynolds have a movie where he wasn't a former college football players? Bandit Darville? probably. Shamus McCoy? maybe at fordham but yes. WW Bright? quite possibly. Driver extraordinare JJ McCLue? Seems likely. Gator McKlusky? Without a doubt. Jack Horner--how do you think he first met the Colonel--probably an alumni booster thing where the colonel met the players, right? Congressman David DIlbeck? Again a character who would have walked straight from the practice field into running for office.
Phil Potter, probably
 

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Holy shit. I like that kid, but look at his numbers for a 3/30 or 3/36 total deal. Even if it's minimally guaranteed, that's a lot of cake for a wide receiver with 13 career TDs and a high year of 690 yards with Aaron Rodgers throwing to him.

Inflation is whack this year.
 

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Holy shit. I like that kid, but look at his numbers for a 3/30 or 3/36 total deal. Even if it's minimally guaranteed, that's a lot of cake for a wide receiver with 13 career TDs and a high year of 690 yards with Aaron Rodgers throwing to him.

Inflation is whack this year.
It's all about the huge jump in cap space. After the first decrease ever (due to COVID impact), the jump from $182M to $208M is a 14% increase, and the biggest percentage increase in over a decade. Spotrac has a fascinating history of cap values, with unintentionally hilarious citations throughout (e.g what team had the highest team salary in 2021? That's right - the juggernaut New York Jets!). https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cba/
 

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was asking a friend, other than the westerns did Burt Reynolds have a movie where he wasn't a former college football players? Bandit Darville? probably. Shamus McCoy? maybe at fordham but yes. WW Bright? quite possibly. Driver extraordinare JJ McCLue? Seems likely. Gator McKlusky? Without a doubt. Jack Horner--how do you think he first met the Colonel--probably an alumni booster thing where the colonel met the players, right? Congressman David DIlbeck? Again a character who would have walked straight from the practice field into running for office.
Lewis Medlock in Deliverance?
 

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Lewis Medlock in Deliverance?
Tough guy like that growing up in the 1950s would almost certainly have played at least high school football right? Haven't seen the movie in years but my background story for him was some version of "kind of a country kid who went to state school did well then became a bit of a yuppie but still does a lot of macho shit as a hobby." And that guy played football!

But sure he was in like a hundred movies and didn't literally play a college football player in all of them. Just a lot of 'em.