NFL Free Agent Frenzy
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A little surprised by this, given he was a starter in every game for them the last 2 years, but I guess they felt like they signed him for RT money, but now would play him at G.
A little surprised by this, given he was a starter in every game for them the last 2 years, but I guess they felt like they signed him for RT money, but now would play him at G.
Noon today is the start of the "two day negotiating period" - i.e., legal tampering. Official free agency begins at 4:00pm on the 16th. How many teams are NOT already in negotiations with free agents, before the noon "start" of the legal tampering period?
THe downside of drafting really well is you start to have a lot of good players who wants a lot of money coming up for extensions near each other.
None. Easy enough to say to for example JC Jacksons agents yesterday "we're looking for a ballhwaking number one corner, what do you think the market is for that" and get a rough answer.
Alex Cappa to the Bengals for 4/40, per Schefter. Pretty good money for a guard, but they usually don't hand out much in guarantees and hopefully he's still ascending at 27. Either way, it's a massive upgrade from what they trotted out at RG last year.
He'll definitely be a big improvement in protection and it was a move that had to be made. I'd like to see them get a little more athletic with the 2-3 other openings. They've been short on athleticism there for a while and the results have shown.
View: https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/1503414347367919621
Trubisky the expected starter in PIT.
Interesting move, he was not good in CHI, but he also had a coach who appears to have been terrible.
Trubisky the expected starter in PIT.
Interesting move, he was not good in CHI, but he also had a coach who appears to have been terrible.
Probably an upgrade from last year. They have a good team, just neeed competence from the QB position. Still not sure this it but worth a shot depending on the money.
CAR/NO/NYG/DET/SEA all probably interested if the price is right though 1 of them probably trades for Watson
View: https://twitter.com/rapsheet/status/1503414508152307712?s=21
This really is silly season. Even Trubisky is lauded as a notable get.
I am here for it all, though.
This really is silly season. Even Trubisky is lauded as a notable get.
I am here for it all, though.
I actually think Trubisky is a decent gamble. He’ll obviously never live up to his draft status but he has tools, the coaching in Chicago certainly didn’t do him any favors (they always seemed to produce more when Nagy ceded playcalling) and the reports from Buffalo appear to be pretty positive. I’d much rather they have signed an aging retread.
That is true, but what if Mitch outplayed Ben by a sizable margin, that would be glorious!
NO can't afford another expensive QB. NYG seems dedicated to another year of Danny Dimes. Seattle and Carolina make sense -- only one of them can trade for Watson.
NO made an offer for Deshaun Watson, so maybe you should tell them they can't afford it.
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Seems like he might be a decent stop-gap if they decide to draft local boy Pickett.
Bengals Twitter seems to be pretty high on the Karras signing. Any Pats fans want to offer a scouting report?
Solid professional guard whose name you will not hear and someone you won't think about for games at a time. Not that mobile; even if you watch line play pretty carefully you'll rarely see him making a great block especially in the running game, won't see him downfield much or pulling, etc.
edit: also apparently a pretty smart player and a funny guy liked by his teammates.
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Thanks - appreciate it. Cappa’s strength also seems to be in pass protection so it looks like they’re going all in on keeping Burrow upright.
Good for Braxton B. Always liked him.
View: https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1503437173902778378?t=BKxiB9sur_oKS-kTcvlf9g&s=19
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BJ Hill is back in Cincinnati at 3/$30. He played really well as a rotational three-tech after coming over from the Giants in the preseason and now they’re betting on that continuing. Larry Ogunjobi is probably a slightly better player but he’s coming off a major foot injury and they couldn’t pay both of them, so I’m happy to get Hill back at this number.
View: https://twitter.com/Marcus_Mosher/status/1503446335789449222
Well that makes the Cooper deal look great
Edit- also makes the deals the Patriots gave out last year look really good. Kirk is young but there is a very good case his year last year was worse than the year Agholor was coming off.
Well that makes the Cooper deal look great
Edit- also makes the deals the Patriots gave out last year look really good. Kirk is young but there is a very good case his year last year was worse than the year Agholor was coming off.
Kirk just blew up the WR market. That’s some huge dollars for a slot receiver.
Jags out here spending Shad’s money in a big way.
Edit: it’s even worse.
View: https://twitter.com/adamschefter/status/1503449828679954432?s=21
I like him too, and wish for his sake, he could have gotten away from the Jets. You're a horrible friend.
I really doubt Kirk regrets it, he'll get his guarantees up front then hit the market again in 2-3 years still in his prime having been force-fed targets to justify his money
Well, so much for the Patriots signing any free agent Wide Receivers...
We'll have to see guarantees, but that might be one of the worst deals I can remember at the time of signing. Good lord. Ten percent of the cap for a guy who tracks as an above average-good slot receiver and isn't much of a Red Zone threat?
Oooook...
We'll have to see guarantees, but that might be one of the worst deals I can remember at the time of signing. Good lord. Ten percent of the cap for a guy who tracks as an above average-good slot receiver and isn't much of a Red Zone threat?
Oooook...
Thing for the Patriots was....
Were we ever going to sign a WR?
Robinson was always getting overpaid, his performance last year was concerning, OBJ was likely not coming here...
The rest of the class was basically more versions of our current top 3 (Agholor/Bourne/Meyers)... maybe if you trust Chark's health he's a step up? But really it's just variants of the WR2/3 role we already have.
We'll add depth on the cheap probably, maybe draft a guy in the first 3 rounds, but there was never an obvious path to a #1 WR upgrade in FA.
Were we ever going to sign a WR?
Robinson was always getting overpaid, his performance last year was concerning, OBJ was likely not coming here...
The rest of the class was basically more versions of our current top 3 (Agholor/Bourne/Meyers)... maybe if you trust Chark's health he's a step up? But really it's just variants of the WR2/3 role we already have.
We'll add depth on the cheap probably, maybe draft a guy in the first 3 rounds, but there was never an obvious path to a #1 WR upgrade in FA.
I've felt like the NFL WR market is going to go the route of the NFL RB market in that these dollars are really going to come down hard over the next couple of years. They're passing so much more in college now and that in turn is churning out more and more high quality NFL ready WRs. Much more supply available which should put downward pressure on the demand.
But then I see things like the Kirk contract and realize I don't know squat.
But then I see things like the Kirk contract and realize I don't know squat.
I think that in general, the consensus is WR talent is better and more plentiful than ever. This year’s draft class is loaded.
The Jags are the same team that took Travis Etienne in the first round and decided to try and convert him into a WR. So take their decisions with a huge grain of salt.
I had assumed this was just a reference to Trubisky's height. Then I remembered he's not even tall.
View: https://twitter.com/FieldYates/status/1503470869519159306?s=20&t=hjuS9zrTrHwLFZd9pMED8w
So the Kirk deal is really more like a 2-year, $38 million deal. Still pretty steep, but not as wild as the headline 4/$84mn implies...
Yates tweet text:
Christian Kirk’s deal: Signing bonus: $20M Salaries: $1.5M, $15.5M, $14.5M, $15.5M Annual roster bonuses: $500K Annual workout bonuses: $500K Annual incentives: $3M 2024 roster bonus: $1M Max value of $84M
So the Kirk deal is really more like a 2-year, $38 million deal. Still pretty steep, but not as wild as the headline 4/$84mn implies...
Yates tweet text:
Christian Kirk’s deal: Signing bonus: $20M Salaries: $1.5M, $15.5M, $14.5M, $15.5M Annual roster bonuses: $500K Annual workout bonuses: $500K Annual incentives: $3M 2024 roster bonus: $1M Max value of $84M