NFL FA Frenzy Game Thread

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I don't really get the Samuel love.
Agholor has been the better WR, including this last season. Agholor is the exact type of WR you need if you want to run a lot of 12, while Samuel is not at all.
Samuel is a fun gadget guy who might also be a solid slot WRs, Agholor is a legit deep threat.
People got way too excited by CAR feeding him targets and the occasional rush.
I've never been an Agholar fan. I feel like he drops too many passes and has far too many games where he just no shows. I'm excited about the big picture of that the Pats are doing, and I am hopeful he fill a complementary role well in that, but that doesnt change the fact he was maybe 15th in my list of WRs I would have wanted this year.
 

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Truthfully, I would have liked Agholor AND Samuel (at the expense of Bourne). Samuel possesses athleticism and shiftiness that we don’t really have and I think he would be great working as a safety valve while the TEs bust the seam and Agholor works deep. I like Bourne but feel like Jakobi/Jules can fill that intended role.

In any event, this ship has sailed.
 

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I've never been an Agholar fan. I feel like he drops too many passes and has far too many games where he just no shows. I'm excited about the big picture of that the Pats are doing, and I am hopeful he fill a complementary role well in that, but that doesnt change the fact he was maybe 15th in my list of WRs I would have wanted this year.
This has been addressed, but he doesn’t drop as many passes as his reputation suggests. The reason people think he drops a lot of passes is he played for the Eagles, frankly. Nobody thinks about Samuel having 14 drops his first three years because he played for Carolina and wasn’t the subject of an infamous fan meme video.
 

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Yeahhhh...I mean this is why going all-in on D1 of free agency is usually an awful strategy that only dumb teams do because you're going to overpay compared to deals to be found later.

I think most of what they did is ~fine & there are some unique circumstances with the cap that make this an interesting year to try this strategy... but they might look foolish on several of these contracts compared to the deals that teams that waited end up getting.
I really don't think they're going to look foolish at all. The WRs (outside of Golladay since we don't know what he's getting yet) all seem to be in the same ballpark in terms of cost. Seems to me that the team liked the fit of the guys they went after.
 

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This has been addressed, but he doesn’t drop as many passes as his reputation suggests. The reason people think he drops a lot of passes is he played for the Eagles, frankly. Nobody thinks about Samuel having 14 drops his first three years because he played for Carolina and wasn’t the subject of an infamous fan meme video.
I've heard so many people say he drops too many passes, and honestly who watched enough 2019 eagles and 2020 raiders games to make that assessment based on their own observations? Yammer, of course. But after that?
 

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It's hard to overcome a viral video in which a man on the street implies that you would have dropped a baby. At least for me that is probably 95% of my awareness of Agholor having a problem with drops.
 

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Lindsay and the Broncos have agreed to part ways. I know he's been mentioned re: the Patriots.
 

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Lindsay has missed a decent amount of games with injury, but healthy he's been very good. Would be happy with any of White/Fournette/Lindsay rounding out the backfield, though admittedly until a better center than Karras is in the door I'm a little less excited to go all in on the ground game and would favor retaining JW, the most pure receiver of the three. Lindsay should be cheapest in theory which has some obvious value. I'm not even super opposed to going into the year with the current rostered backs and maybe a mid/late draft pick. Feels like the RB room is a win no matter what if health goes our way.
 

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It's hard to overcome a viral video in which a man on the street implies that you would have dropped a baby. At least for me that is probably 95% of my awareness of Agholor having a problem with drops.
That comment came after a rough stretch for Agholor. He'd dropped a game tying TD two weeks before (against the Pats) and then had a drop and a fumble the next game against the Lions.
 

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I've heard so many people say he drops too many passes, and honestly who watched enough 2019 eagles and 2020 raiders games to make that assessment based on their own observations? Yammer, of course. But after that?
I can't speak to his time with Vegas, but I can say that I've seen every single snap of his during his tenure with the Eagles. I'm surprised by the raw drop numbers posted in this thread because I feel like he definitely dropped more than four passes in 2019, but I guess the numbers don't lie.

All in all I think he's a good WR but he's inconsistent and frustrating and sometimes careless with the football. I would like to think that a Belichick led team will be helpful for him on those things. I will add that he's a high character guy. After that video went viral he stood tall and answered all the questions from reporters on that, and he even invited the guy and his family to an Eagles game as his guest.
 

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I can't speak to his time with Vegas, but I can say that I've seen every single snap of his during his tenure with the Eagles. I'm surprised by the raw drop numbers posted in this thread because I feel like he definitely dropped more than four passes in 2019, but I guess the numbers don't lie.

All in all I think he's a good WR but he's inconsistent and frustrating and sometimes careless with the football. I would like to think that a Belichick led team will be helpful for him on those things. I will add that he's a high character guy. After that video went viral he stood tall and answered all the questions from reporters on that, and he even invited the guy and his family to an Eagles game as his guest.
Honest question - what's your take on the rape allegations? I know he was not ultimately charged, but I'd feel a little better about the signing if I felt like his name was actually cleared and not that he NFL player'ed his way out of it.
 

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I really don't think they're going to look foolish at all. The WRs (outside of Golladay since we don't know what he's getting yet) all seem to be in the same ballpark in terms of cost. Seems to me that the team liked the fit of the guys they went after.
We're still not at the stage of the off season where the Patriots usually dip their toe in, so we'll see.

My favorite Agholor stat is that he led the league last year in yards per target.
 

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Honest question - what's your take on the rape allegations? I know he was not ultimately charged, but I'd feel a little better about the signing if I felt like his name was actually cleared and not that he NFL player'ed his way out of it.
I don't know what happened but it seems very likely to me that he was falsely accused.
 

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Apparently the Jets are in on Juju, looking to paid him with Corey Davis.

Davis and Smith Schuster would be a nice couple of options for a rookie
 

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Apparently the Jets are in on Juju, looking to paid him with Corey Davis.

Davis and Smith Schuster would be a nice couple of options for a rookie
Along with Mims and Crowder. That's a nice unit, if this happens.
 

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I've never been an Agholar fan. I feel like he drops too many passes and has far too many games where he just no shows. I'm excited about the big picture of that the Pats are doing, and I am hopeful he fill a complementary role well in that, but that doesnt change the fact he was maybe 15th in my list of WRs I would have wanted this year.
Youve described Brandin Cooks, who we all would have killed to have on the roster last season.

I'm hesitant on Agholor, but I didnt watch many Raiders games last season.
 

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Zolak hinting on 98.5 that Andrews still coming back may not be out of the question.
 

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Youve described Brandin Cooks, who we all would have killed to have on the roster last season.

I'm hesitant on Agholor, but I didnt watch many Raiders games last season.
I had the same hesitations on Agholor but then watched a bunch of highlights from his Raiders season and he looks like a completely different player. Definitely recommend taking a deep dive into his play last year.
 

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One year around worth around more than $10M with upside per Rapsheet.

That’s a bargain. He was really good last year as the #1 before he got busted for PEDs. I’d prefer him to Agholor on their respective contracts.
I dunno. Even without the PED suspension, he's missed about 30% of his games. Seems like a guy who always gets banged up every year and I can't shake that awful drop he had against the Pats in the playoffs from my memory. I'm ok with Miami taking him. Solid deal for them since no risk on a 1 year deal.
 

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Fuller is a nice element to have in your offense as long as you don’t expect volume or run blocking from him, at least in the ten games you’ll get out of him.

As long as they don’t truly count on him in terms of what they field next year, it’s a good idea
 

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They'll still have Parker and a healthier Preston Williams, right? That's an interesting if unspectacular top 3.
 

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I wouldn't want Fuller at any reasonable price. This is a guy who hasn't played more than 11 games in 5 years, missing 25 games since 2016. Even if he provides value when he's on the field, when he takes his annual 5-6 game hiatus his absence hurts more than if he'd never signed. Hard pass.
 

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I’d rather 11 games from someone who I know is going to be a difference maker when he plays than 16 games from someone that I’m not sure what I’ll get week to week.

When you factor in the contract and that (presumably) the most important thing this year is finding out if/how good Tua is, I’d argue this is the smartest thing Miami could have done. Off the top of my head, the only signing that may have been close is Samuel...an argument could be made that he has a similar upside with less risk, but I don’t think the team made that sort of commitment because I would still expect them to be heavy on skill players in the draft. I can still see them taking Smith or Chase...or a Pitts (if they trade down) or Bateman with their second pick.
 

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So the Raiders got rid of a bunch of good linemen to get money for....
View: https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1372617284171132932


Kenyan Drake to be their backup?
This is a wild signing. They didn’t block particularly well for Jacobs as is, and they spent all kinds of time just running him up the gut. And now their OL is worse to boot?

Depth is good, especially with Jacobs having nagging injuries, but this is surprising for sure. Booker was actually a pretty decent backup too.
 

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Wow. Rumors were that the Bears were pushing hard for an extension. Fuller is betting that there’s more money out there on the market still than what the Bears were offering - the new TV deal helps that.

I figured Akiem Hicks was the likely cut. Either way, that defense regressed a bit last season and, other than getting Eddie Goldman back after he sat out 2020, there isn’t an infusion of new talent. Trying to mold Leonard Floyd into something he’s not and then trying to cover that mistake by giving Robert Quinn a huge contract is arguable Ryan Pace’s second biggest screw up.

Edit: looks like the Bears gave Hicks permission to find a trade. That seems unlikely given his $10.5m figure, but much more likely If he’s willing to sign a new deal.
 
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I legitimately forgot that Moncrief was on the team this past year. Although, in my defense, I just learned this is his 7th team in 5 years, so I'm probably not the only one.