For the OC, either of the 2 Joshes. For the DC, preferably Flores, but Saleh too. As you can tell, experience matters to me….Who do you want?
I'm pretty confident Flores isn't leaving a great DC slot for a shitty oneFor the OC, either of the 2 Joshes. For the DC, preferably Flores, but Saleh too. As you can tell, experience matters to me….
I think that's a fair assumption.Vrabel’s first choice for each.
I do wonder if McDaniels is part of the deal as the Kraft's part... we bring you in, we add guys you want, we pay your ask.... we don't trust you on OC, so you take our guy who was probably on your long list anyway.I think that's a fair assumption.
I'd like to see McDaniels back as OC, though. I doubt he's getting another coaching offer anytime soon, so it would mean some stability for Maye.
For defense, probably someone good Vrabel worked with in Tennessee.
I also wonder if Vrabel may want stability at that spot, he knows as well as anyone how destabilizing an OC churn can be. Hitting OC hire after OC hire is unlikely.I do wonder if McDaniels is part of the deal as the Kraft's part... we bring you in, we add guys you want, we pay your ask.... we don't trust you on OC, so you take our guy who was probably on your long list anyway.
Yep, and McDaniels isn't likely to get another shot at being a HCI also wonder if Vrabel may want stability at that spot, he knows as well as anyone how destabilizing an OC churn can be. Hitting OC hire after OC hire is unlikely.
Possible, just noticing that his name did not come up at all when people talked about Vrabel's other interviews (where guys like Rees did), only the Patriots.I also wonder if Vrabel may want stability at that spot, he knows as well as anyone how destabilizing an OC churn can be. Hitting OC hire after OC hire is unlikely.
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all schwartz wants to do is biltz made denver look like the 2000 rams on off hire someone from the rams on off and the ex jets coach on defWill be interesting to see what Jim Schwartz contract is like with Cleveland because Vrabel had him in Tennessee.
You're (edit: NOT) the first or even the fifth poster to mention this, and I really do get it - making ANYTHING out of the shit-storm that wound up being "Mac Jones, QB1" is an achievement and a reason for optimism. Having said that, I think we may want to consider retire this talking point, given the fact that Mac was a good, serviceable QB for about half a season. The last several games of his rookie season foretold what he would ultimately become. Sure, he had a game or two where he popped, but mostly that second half of his rookier campaign looked a lot like the rest of his uninspiring, undynamic career to this point, including the final years in N.E.OC: Less conviction here. Josh McD made a Mac Jones-led offense into one of the best in the NFL in 2021, so if he comes back, I’ll be happy.
He did a really nice job with Mac.... he also had a really good line and a lot of positive game scripts. Patriots had the 2nd best average starting position due to an elite defense that was 2nd in the league in takeaways. It was a bit of a smoke and mirrors season... he should get credit for a good amount of it... but I always kind of felt one reason he took the LV job was he knew it wasn't sustainable.You're (edit: NOT) the first or even the fifth poster to mention this, and I really do get it - making ANYTHING out of the shit-storm that wound up being "Mac Jones, QB1" is an achievement and a reason for optimism. Having said that, I think we may want to consider retire this talking point, given the fact that Mac was a good, serviceable QB for about half a season. The last several games of his rookie season foretold what he would ultimately become. Sure, he had a game or two where he popped, but mostly that second half of his rookier campaign looked a lot like the rest of his uninspiring, undynamic career to this point, including the final years in N.E.
One might like getting to build around Gonzo, White, Barmore, and maybe Abdul Carter.Whereas the OC job let's you build around Maye, the defense is in shambles and is probably not that attractive an up-and-coming coach. I don't anticipate fireworks here.
Purely speculation on my end but I would not count on Barmore. If he actually had blood clot recurrence that could be career threatening.One might like getting to build around Gonzo, White, Barmore, and maybe Abdul Carter.
so one building blockOne might like getting to build around Gonzo, White, Barmore, and maybe Abdul Carter.
Are you ever positive like ever? Every post is negative and down.....geezso one building block
one mediocre inconsistent guy
one guy who will possibly (probably?) have to retire
One guy who may or may not make it to the Pats pick and may or may not even be on their radar
Not seeing that as appealing
is anything I posted there untrue?Are you ever positive like ever? Every post is negative and down.....geez
Because it's easy to follow?I always like Josh McOffense’s play calling.
I don’t understand how you can objectively look at this defense and come to that conclusion. After Gonzo, Peppers is probably their best player. White is a JAG. Barmore, if healthy, is a good lineman, but he isn’t Richard Seymour. DL depth beyond that is terrible. The LB corps is putrid. They don’t have a second corner. Marcus Jones flashes in the slot. They don’t have a coverage safety. Dugger is a poor man’s Peppers and Marte is a broke man’s Dugger.One might like getting to build around Gonzo, White, Barmore, and maybe Abdul Carter.
Saleh had an interview with the 49ers. Would he opt for the Pats instead? Not sure, but then again, the Niners may "go in another direction"I would like Josh and Saleh and O'Shea as receivers coach. Keep Springer.
So...blank canvas?I don’t understand how you can objectively look at this defense and come to that conclusion. After Gonzo, Peppers is probably their best player. White is a JAG. Barmore, if healthy, is a good lineman, but he isn’t Richard Seymour. DL depth beyond that is terrible. The LB corps is putrid. They don’t have a second corner. Marcus Jones flashes in the slot. They don’t have a coverage safety. Dugger is a poor man’s Peppers and Marte is a broke man’s Dugger.
At best they have ~ four guys goodish players on that side of the ball, and three come with caveats, and two of them play the same position.
I can make a connection. Saleh and the GB LaFleur are best friends. That LaFleur worked for VrabelIs there some connection btw Saleh and Vrabel?
You're (edit: NOT) the first or even the fifth poster to mention this, and I really do get it - making ANYTHING out of the shit-storm that wound up being "Mac Jones, QB1" is an achievement and a reason for optimism. Having said that, I think we may want to consider retire this talking point, given the fact that Mac was a good, serviceable QB for about half a season. The last several games of his rookie season foretold what he would ultimately become. Sure, he had a game or two where he popped, but mostly that second half of his rookier campaign looked a lot like the rest of his uninspiring, undynamic career to this point, including the final years in N.E.
I guess I’m not sure what this means?He did a really nice job with Mac.... he also had a really good line and a lot of positive game scripts. Patriots had the 2nd best average starting position due to an elite defense that was 2nd in the league in takeaways. It was a bit of a smoke and mirrors season... he should get credit for a good amount of it... but I always kind of felt one reason he took the LV job was he knew it wasn't sustainable.
One thing I've been thinking about in relation to McDaniels... what did Mac actually do well? Obviously, mobility and arm strength were big minuses for him. I also don't think he had pinpoint accuracy. I think Drake Maye makes better throws on screens and into the flat (he locates the ball better and gives receivers more of a chance for YAC). Reportedly, Mac struggled with post-snap reading of defenses. Where I would say Mac seemed to be good was in pre-snap reads and adjustments at the line, which maybe explains part of why he worked well with Josh McD but struggled as soon as Matt P came in and took a lot of that stuff out.He did a really nice job with Mac.... he also had a really good line and a lot of positive game scripts. Patriots had the 2nd best average starting position due to an elite defense that was 2nd in the league in takeaways. It was a bit of a smoke and mirrors season... he should get credit for a good amount of it... but I always kind of felt one reason he took the LV job was he knew it wasn't sustainable.
Exactly. Obviously most of Josh's OC success came with Brady, and Brady's breakout came when the team added Moss and Welker. But as OC, Josh has also worked well with Matt Cassel, Jimmy Garoppolo, Jacoby Brissett, armless Cam Newton, and Mac Jones. Bedard was on this, too.I like McD as OC. He’s good with QBs and he’s probably burned his chances as a head coach so there should be multi-year stability
Barmore may never play again. I do think White is more than a JAG, I think the whole defense suffered from terrible coching last year, including individual player skill work. I think the defense, including individual defensive players, is both quite a bit better than it showed last year while also being quite a bit worse than it showed the year before. I think competent coahcing will make a difference here, although the personnel situation is generally weak after Gonzalez.I don’t understand how you can objectively look at this defense and come to that conclusion. After Gonzo, Peppers is probably their best player. White is a JAG. Barmore, if healthy, is a good lineman, but he isn’t Richard Seymour. DL depth beyond that is terrible. The LB corps is putrid. They don’t have a second corner. Marcus Jones flashes in the slot. They don’t have a coverage safety. Dugger is a poor man’s Peppers and Marte is a broke man’s Dugger.
At best they have ~ four guys goodish players on that side of the ball, and three come with caveats, and two of them play the same position.