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CreedBratton

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I just don’t think the Celtics have enough to get to the east finals & challenge the Bucks for sure. They needed help today.

in a 7 game series I don’t think they beat the Sixers or the Raptors. Miami is pretty even but the Heat would have the best player in the series so it’s tough.

Wanamaker or Bertans as your 7th man in a playoff series? Makes a big difference, but I mean they are not winning a title this year anyway so it’s not a huge deal. I just like to see them go for it somewhat.
 
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CreedBratton said:
I just don’t think the Celtics have enough to get to the east finals & challenge the Bucks for sure. They needed help today.

in a 7 game series I don’t think they beat the Sixers or the Raptors. Miami is pretty even but the Heat would have the best player in the series so it’s tough.

Wanamaker or Bertans as your 7th man in a playoff series? Makes a big difference, but I mean they are not winning a title this year anyway so it’s not a huge deal. I just like to see them go for it somewhat.
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We really don't know what the Celtics' ceiling is yet. They've played 15 games as a healthy unit. I think they are only going to get better as they return to health. I would not rule out this team beating anyone outside of Milwaukee in a 7 game series.
 
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There are some interesting international bigs this draft. So, I think there are some good options to draft and stash
 
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Bertans is a high volume 43% three point shooter. Imagine Hayward or Kemba kicking it out to him instead of Grant Williams or Semi. No disrespect to those guys, but Bertans would be a lightning rod off the bench for this team. Come on Danny.
 
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Can the Celtics not afford to keep Hayward/Brown/Tatum/Kemba/Smart? I was under the impression they could go over the cap and it is up to ownership. Why do people assume one has to go?
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Because the OKC owners are a lot richer and even they eventually balked at the luxury tax bill when payroll spending approached $300 million. Tatum is rapidly ascending into the NBA's top 15, and if he makes an All NBA team this year, he's eligible for a 30% max out of the gate (and Boston has to give it to him to maintain the goodwill of the guy they're hoping to build around for the next decade or more). They would essentially be spending 125% – 130% of the salary cap on four guys. Then you have the entire rest of the roster fill.
 
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RedOctober3829 said:
How many more young players does this team need? They have 3 1st rounders plus Williams/Edwards/Waters/Langford/Fall on a team that has 5 of it's top 6 players locked in for a while provided they do extend Tatum.
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Even if that is true there is no reason they should be trading draft picks now if they don't like the value back - they can always trade those picks in the offseason prior to or during the draft if they want to move up to get someone, etc.

Danny (like BB) will make a trade if and only if he thinks the value back is worth whatever they are giving up, he's not going to overpay just because there is a perceived need to "do something" because other teams have made trades.
 
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Even if that is true there is no reason they should be trading draft picks now if they don't like the value back - they can always trade those picks in the offseason prior to or during the draft if they want to move up to get someone, etc.

Danny (like BB) will make a trade if and only if he thinks the value back is worth whatever they are giving up, he's not going to overpay just because there is a perceived need to "do something" because other teams have made trades.
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Bertrans is someone they do need though. A deadly shooter who is a big.
 
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CreedBratton said:
Wanamaker or Bertans as your 7th man in a playoff series? Makes a big difference, but I mean they are not winning a title this year anyway so it’s not a huge deal. I just like to see them go for it somewhat.
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How are you getting Wanamaker as the 7th guy? You have the Big 5 plus Theis and Kanter are first seven to play in a playoffs. Grant Williams is next. Beauty of Cs is that among Kemba, Smart, and Hayworld(!), you don't really need ballhandlers among your top 8 unless you don't want to play your Big 5 38 minutes per game.

Bertans would be nice. But I wouldn't give up Langford for him.
 
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RedOctober3829 said:
Bertrans is someone they do need though. A deadly shooter who is a big.
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Sure but it depends on what the asking price is. Would you really trade two firsts and Kanter/Theis for a half-year of Bertans in the hope that he's the piece that puts you over the edge? Seems pretty steep. Again, I don't know that they need three first-rounders next summer but it's not like those assets disappear if they don't trade them today.
 
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Drummond sure doesn’t seem to be valued much around the league for a guy who puts up some good numbers. Born 20 years too late.
 
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I mean were Detroit afraid he was going to opt in? Henson, Knight and 2nd both pure UFA.
 
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Yahoo describing MaMo as a "knockdown three-point shooter".

Yes, I know he's nailing them this season, just thought that was funny.
 
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View: https://twitter.com/thesteinline/status/1225483013154385924?s=21
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Or they plan to move Wiggins in the summer and didn't think Wiggins plus a (likely) high first-rounder was any worse of a trading chip than DLo alone.

Fwiw, my Wiggins-plus pick(s) for Beal trade is still lined up. Only difference is now they get Wiggins plus a high 2021 first-rounder instead of DLo if it doesn't materialize. Wiggins kinda sucks, but at least a 1-4 of Steph-Klay-Wiggins-Green makes some structural sense if they're left holding the bag.

Kinda surprised they didn't wait till the Summer to sort through their options; but it seems like the urgency to duck under the tax to avoid repeater kinda forced the issue. I'm sort of OK with this, so long as they now use the full MLE and $17M Iguodala TPE (and get Beal, haha).
 
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Why would Cleveland want Drummond?
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Cleveland seems to like big guys who are good rebounders but can't shoot. See: Thompson, Tristan. Drummond is just a bigger, better version of that.

Otherwise...I can't think of any other reason.
 
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I do not like that Heat trade. Crowder's shooting has fallen off a cliff since leaving Boston and is only hitting 29 percent this season. Soloman Hill is JAG on an expiring deal. Iguodala is theoretically a good defender with a lot of experience, but he hasn't played all year and the situation in Memphis with him was very, very strange. He is also 36, and his crappy free throw shooting might be a real flaw in crunch time of a playoff series.

Winslow is still a young player that imo, will probably be a solid rotation player for 10 more years in the league, and while he is probably overpayed, his mid-level contract will make him useful as trade ballast. James Johnson doesn't put up big numbers, but does a million little things for the team, is an effective small-ball center, a versatile defender, and a relentless screen-setter and ball-mover on offense, with respectable three point range.
 
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Kliq said:
I do not like that Heat trade. Crowder's shooting has fallen off a cliff since leaving Boston and is only hitting 29 percent this season. Soloman Hill is JAG on an expiring deal. Iguodala is theoretically a good defender with a lot of experience, but he hasn't played all year and the situation in Memphis with him was very, very strange. He is also 36, and his crappy free throw shooting might be a real flaw in crunch time of a playoff series.

Winslow is still a young player that imo, will probably be a solid rotation player for 10 more years in the league, and while he is probably overpayed, his mid-level contract will make him useful as trade ballast. James Johnson doesn't put up big numbers, but does a million little things for the team, is an effective small-ball center, a versatile defender, and a relentless screen-setter and ball-mover on offense, with respectable three point range.
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I wouldn’t have given up Winslow in this deal, but Riley likes to go for it & the biggest thing is Winslow can’t stay healthy. The best ability is availability & he never is.
 
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Isn't Cleveland sort of jammed with bigs now? I guess with Love, TT, and DD they are going to be the rebounding kings.
 
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Bill Simmons level of nba analysis on anyone "this guy used to play for the celtics. Glad he's gone. He sucks"
 
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I'd do a celts and the bucks 1st for Bertans. That assumes we're willing to pay tax next year and has some risk on him as RFA, but he's an interesting piece (and interesting contract) going forward. And the Celts 1sts are less valuable given all the youth in place.
 
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The Jump talking about Tristan Thompson getting bought out & Celtics would be first in line. Praying. Praying. Praying.
 
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