NBA trade deadline "official" rumors and news
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Yeah, this makes zero sense from their end. Holiday would be a great shooting option off the bench for the C's but this is a pipe dream.
The final Miami-Memphis trade is Iggy/Solomon Hill/Jae Crowder to Miami for Justise Winslow, Dion Waiters, and James Johnson.
View: https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1225467426638352384
View: https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1225467426638352384
I would kill to have Bertans on the Celtics, he would be a perfect fit.
Danny has to do something today. The Heat got a lot better, the Sixers got the bench help they needed, the Raps are really frikkin good & the Pacers just got oladipo back. Not to mention the Bucks are insane.
A scorer to help our horrendous bench is a must unless the goal is just to make the playoffs. This team could easily go out in round 1, but with a little bench help could get to east finals. Come on Danny!!
Danny has to do something today. The Heat got a lot better, the Sixers got the bench help they needed, the Raps are really frikkin good & the Pacers just got oladipo back. Not to mention the Bucks are insane.
A scorer to help our horrendous bench is a must unless the goal is just to make the playoffs. This team could easily go out in round 1, but with a little bench help could get to east finals. Come on Danny!!
I will eat several hats if the difference between a round 1 exit and getting to the conference finals is a little bench help.
So they add Iggy, which helps their defense and hurts their spacing. I’m still not scared of Miami—the Celtics have physically dominated them twice now.
And yet here's not even a hint of a rumor about the Celts with less that 3 hours to the deadline.
I keep telling people, when he goes it's going to happen because he's opting out and Boston isn't going to carry three max guys and one near max guy on the roster. He's leaving this summer and everyone needs to prepare themselves for the day. But Boston's best case scenario is that he decides that he wants to join the Warriors because that's a sign & trade scenario that has some promise for them. Over the much worse LA or Miami scenarios.
Boston won't be beating the Bucks this year, so it's important that they ensure themselves a 2/3 seed and a second round matchup with Miami. Because I still can't see this Heat squad getting past Boston.
I may be somewhat alone in this thinking, but I would prefer to keep Hayward over Brown, especially considering that Brown would fetch more this summer in a trade. In fact, I have amazing dreams of a Jaylen + TL + Langford + MEM pick for KAT
If Hayward were 26, I'd agree. The age gap and potential for Brown to improve further on both ends is too big for Hayward to overcome though.
Obviously if there were a real trade for Brown, that changes everything, but I don't see it. If KAT comes free, everything but Tatum (who is probably better than KAT already) will be on the table, but I just don't see it. Minny would lose way too much face, and he still has 4 years left.
Can the Celtics not afford to keep Hayward/Brown/Tatum/Kemba/Smart? I was under the impression they could go over the cap and it is up to ownership. Why do people assume one has to go?
I could be wrong, but I think the idea is that if Hayward finishes the season strong and chooses to opt out, he'll be in high demand given how slim the free agent pickings are this summer. In that scenario, Ainge might see a sign and trade for other assets/rotation players as preferable, given how difficult it is for them to improve/tweak the roster with how locked in the C's are to their top 5 guys.
IMO, the big issue right now for Ainge in looking to improve this roster isn't that there aren't players available, it's that the contracts on the roster make it very hard to make salaries work for some of the players Boston would have interest in in a vacuum. Given his age, recent injuries, and Boston's strength at wing, Hayward seems like the most likely guy to go. Though I agree with nighthob and think any deal that breaks up the core happens in the offseason, not at the deadline.
They can. They will eventually have to pay some tax and there are minor cap issues with exemptions and stuff. But they can keep them all.
When Hayward opts our, what would we get from GSW in a s&t?
When Hayward opts our, what would we get from GSW in a s&t?
Anything you want from MIN (including picks) outside of Towns, or anything you want from NYK (including picks) outside of Barrett and probably MitchRob.
FWIW, they can keep them all. The question is, how successful can a team be if their top 5 guys can't be on the court together? Post FIBA, there was some talk of whether we might see Stevens play small at times this season with Tatum/Brown defending less physical centers. As far as I can tell, Brad has played the small ball Kemba/Smart/Jaylen/Hayward/Tatum lineup for a whopping 13 minutes together this season.
I'm certainly interested in seeing whether going small could work against non-Embiid teams, and Houston will be an interesting Petri dish for whether such a configuration could be successful. I suspect we might see more of that lineup in the playoffs if the matchup allows for it.
This team has been a breath of fresh air after the Kyrie clusterfuck. I'm a big fan of the current roster, and think it's worth seeing what they can do in the playoffs this year. I also don't think it's unreasonable to wonder whether this roster has a capped ceiling as currently constructed, and whether it might be worth exploring what Hayward might get you if he wants another close to max deal after the season.
Woof. If they turn Wiggins into a winner, Golden State will be megaparsecs ahead, not light years.
Holy shit. A lot depends on the protections, but that seems like not what SRN was expecting to get for his TS% binkie
Wiggins is a pretty negative asset.
Hayward might be in high demand but unless he all of sudden decides it's all about the money, he's not going to want to play for all but a couple of teams.
Maybe the idea of playing for Kerr and with Steph excites him I don't believe there's any way Hayward is opting-out just to get a max contract from ATL or NYK or any other team that is not going to be competing for a championship.
KOC (sorry to hear about your Dad Kevin) on how Wiggins might be salvageable, an article with an interesting title given PSB's post above: https://www.theringer.com/nba/2020/2/4/21123496/andrew-wiggins-trade-golden-state-warriors-dangelo-russell
Are we sure that Jae Crowder is good anymore? His game has declined in pretty much every conceivable way over the past few years.
Looks like Randolph and Mortimer are desperately trying to reset the luxury tax offenses, just like Red Sox. Only GSW didn't have to trade Curry to do it. :-(
Damn. I didn't steal this from him consciously, but may have absorbed it accidentally during some sleepless 4 am trade rumor hunting, not sure when he published. Or maybe KOC and I just both googled "what is bigger than a light year" when the delicious irony of Lacob's quote in light of acquiring Wiggins sank in.
Never liked Waiters as a player but he could create his own shot (whether that shot went in is another thing), which is more than one could say for most of the rest of the MIA roster (other than Buckets and maybe Bam against the right matchup). MIA reminds me of IND last year - great star; great supporting cast; plays super hard; and will therefore beat most teams on most nights.
But in the playoffs, they shouldn't be that hard to play against, unless Butler starts averaging 40 ppg.
Sixers need more than bench help. They have the biggest problem when they are playing Embiid, Simmons, Horford, and Harris together. PHI is going to live and die with as far as those four and Richardson can take them. Which I'm not sure is far unless (as I discussed in the Sixers thread) Embiid starts playing defense. And should probably include Al in that category as well.
GSW is firmly in bottom 10 FO contention right now, and investigating whether a spot in the top 5 may be available.
I never believe GSW would get a good asset for Russell, but I didn't expect them to get a worse contract back.
I never believe GSW would get a good asset for Russell, but I didn't expect them to get a worse contract back.
So you're not KOC? I thought he posted on this board at one point . . . .
May be a worse contract but with the trade GSW manages to get under the salary cap. View: https://twitter.com/anthonyVslater/status/1225484028926660608
"Side note to this blockbuster: By also shedding the Evans/Spellman contracts, Warriors are in line to duck the luxury tax, which will get them out of the repeater next season, freeing them from a large financial burden, particularly if they use the Iguodala trade exception."
KOC says the price for Bertans is 2 1st round picks. Would anyone part with the C's and the Bucks picks for him?
Agreed. I expected the cost a D-Lo/Wiggins swap to be multiple firsts going to GSW, given how negative an asset he is. Even if we don't think D-Lo was a positive asset, MN clearly did.
Only if ownership will go into the tax to pay to keep him. Otherwise, I want no part of giving up assets for a rental.
I have a hard time seeing either Crowder or Igoudala as a real difference maker at this point. Trading Winslow for them seems like a panic move.
Agree. I don't think this team really needs two more late firsts on top of the Memphis pick.
How many more young players does this team need? They have 3 1st rounders plus Williams/Edwards/Waters/Langford/Fall on a team that has 5 of it's top 6 players locked in for a while provided they do extend Tatum.
Okay, but you can dump those contracts on their own. Spellman in particular had shown signs of life. Neither guy was making anything.