NBA Trade Deadline Game Thread

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I mean if a multi-tool, 20-year old, athletic, 6-6 point guard who hasn’t yet grown into his body doesn’t fit the definition of “young star” I’m not sure who else would qualify. Shai is totally legit already and has a high ceiling with his physicals having a long way to go. I have him about as can’t miss as they come to reach borderline All-Star status and very possibly higher. [
QUOTE="the moops, post: 3273042, member: 72990"]Just one thing. Gallo does not expire until next year
Again I like him but lets be honest here - we in this forum follow the sport at an obsessive level.

Your average sports or even casual NBA fan who isn't a Clippers watcher or Kentucky hoops follower probably doesn't know much about SGA. He is a very promising young player but he lacks star power right now. He is a bit of a stretch as the centerpiece of a trade for Anthony Davis imho.
 

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Nothing. There isn't anything Ainge can do at this deadline that would move the needle. Maybe scour the buyout market to see if anything can help off the bench. Their biggest chip is Rozier, but he won't be moved due to Kyrie insurance.
Rozier would also likely be needed for salary purposes in a future AD trade to avoid having to include Smart. I don't think Ainge does a thing this deadline. Maybe picks up a buyout guy.
 

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This gets LAC closer to being in the AD sweepstakes, but I don't see them there yet. The only two young assets they have are Shai and Shamet, and neither is even at the level of Ball yet. The best package they could really do is something like Shai, Shamet, the MIA pick, and their own pick this year 1-12 protected (i.e., if it doesn't go to Boston), rolling over to a future unprotected first if it doesn't convey, plus other picks further down the road. But NOP would have to assume that with AD, that pick's not likely to convey, and whatever it rolls into wouldn't be great. I don't see that as being near the LAL offer, and I'm not sure how the Clips can really improve it.

edit: but maybe I'm just really undervaluing Shai.
Is this even possible? Since the pick is owed to Boston, can they offer it up in another trade? It would have to be written something like, "2019 1st to NO unless pick is in the lottery, in which case the pick goes to BOS. If BOS gets pick, NO would receive a 2021 1st round pick" (can't trade '20 1st due to Stepian rule).

How many other picks "down the road" can you even add to that? Why does NO want that package? They would have to REALLY like SGA- way more than Jaylen, Tatum, Rozier, picks, etc that they could pick from a BOS deal.
 

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I have no idea if it's allowed-- but the idea would be you send it to NOP if it doesn't convey to Boston (i.e., if it IS in the lottery, not unless it's in the lottery). (I miswrote the initial idea... it would be 13-30 protected, not 1-12 protected).

But yeah, my point is that I don't think NO wants that deal, and I don't see how they get more assets to make it appealing.
 

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Maker had been agitating for a trade, could be at least partially driven by locker room/chemistry reasons if that was a distraction.
 

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Weird move. I guess it clears salary for the Bucks next year though?
Maker requesated a trade. Good move for both teams in my opinion.

Hasn't happened yet, but Utah is rumored to be offering Rubio, Favors and a pick for Mike Conley. I wonder where Gasol is headed.
 

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Maker requesated a trade. Good move for both teams in my opinion.

Hasn't happened yet, but Utah is rumored to be offering Rubio, Favors and a pick for Mike Conley. I wonder where Gasol is headed.
I thought the rumors were Gasol to Charlotte, or has that abated?
 

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Is this even possible? Since the pick is owed to Boston, can they offer it up in another trade? It would have to be written something like, "2019 1st to NO unless pick is in the lottery, in which case the pick goes to BOS. If BOS gets pick, NO would receive a 2021 1st round pick" (can't trade '20 1st due to Stepian rule).
It would be a draft night deal, and the Clippers acquired a '20 #1, so they're free to trade their own '19 and '21 picks as part of a Davis deal now. The trade essentially takes the Clippers out of the playoff chase meaning that they're going to end up with a pick in the 12-14 range that won't convey.
 

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It would be a draft night deal, and the Clippers acquired a '20 #1, so they're free to trade their own '19 and '21 picks as part of a Davis deal now. The trade essentially takes the Clippers out of the playoff chase meaning that they're going to end up with a pick in the 12-14 range that won't convey.
Then there would be no need to protect the pick. They'd just offer the '19 pick if it weren't going to Boston. The way the OP was worded made it sound like a deal being made now, not on draft night (rolling over to a future pick if it doesn't convey this year).
 

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There's a bunch of rumors. One has Conley and Gasol going to Toronto. Not even sure how that's possible.
Yes, Toronto isn't hard capped by they are way over the apron, which makes trades difficult.
 
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Something tells me the Process didn’t involve an endgame of trading all of your pieces for two unrestricted free agents including one who will probably bail. At least they finally got a player who can shoot.
The end game for the Process was getting superstar players that can win you a title. Philly now has four of them. I'd say it worked out exactly how they wanted it to.
 

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Which four are superstars?
Embiid/Simmons/Butler/Harris

Harris is the weakest link of the bunch, but he's still a max guy in free agency this summer. If that doesn't meet your definition of superstar that's fine, but he's clearly a top level talent.
 

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Is this even possible? Since the pick is owed to Boston, can they offer it up in another trade? It would have to be written something like, "2019 1st to NO unless pick is in the lottery, in which case the pick goes to BOS. If BOS gets pick, NO would receive a 2021 1st round pick" (can't trade '20 1st due to Stepian rule).

How many other picks "down the road" can you even add to that? Why does NO want that package? They would have to REALLY like SGA- way more than Jaylen, Tatum, Rozier, picks, etc that they could pick from a BOS deal.
We don't know how much Ainge is willing to put on the table and the Clippers still have time to acquire more assets that fit the Pelicans liking. I still feel we have a huge advantage being out of conference and the most assets that we CAN offer but if Demps plays hardball with Ainge as he should it could open up the door for someone like the Clippers to sneak in.
 

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No Twitter link here but this is 3rd hand info from a friend of a certain NBA players Dad. The short.

Bulls are shopping both LaVine and Dunn. They aren't extending Dunn with LaVine still here as they don't like the chemistry between them on the floor together to be worth two big contracts and feel a need to shake things up. If moves are made it would likely happen over the summer once LaVine's no-trade expires but Dunn could be heading to Phoenix sooner as they still don't even have a legitimate backup 1 on their roster much less a starting 1 next to Booker.
 

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I wonder if Harris will stay in Philly. If not, that's a big price for a rental. He could choose to resign with the Clips, Or be a bridesmaid choice for the Nets if they can seduce a big star, or become the scoring wing on the Hawks,
 

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I wonder if Harris will stay in Philly. If not, that's a big price for a rental. He could choose to resign with the Clips, Or be a bridesmaid choice for the Nets if they can seduce a big star, or become the scoring wing on the Hawks,
He'll sign with the Knicks when they miss out on KD and KI.

Nah, I think he's all but a given to stay in Philly. They are going to pay him.
 

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The Nets are almost certainly the all-time greatest basketball team that plays its home games on Long Island.
Maybe he just remembers stories from his youth of his parents watching them in Commack and Uniondale, when Levern Tart wasn't a breakfast food?
 

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Dunn for Josh Jackson? I can't see Dunn having much trade value.
Yeah for sure as he falls into that Ingram, Jaylen, Otto grouping we were discussing in another thread. As a young starter he's going to be paid but is this level of a starter really where you want to allocate your resources? Phoenix would obviously be an ideal opportunity for him to fill a huge hole while having Booker and Ayton as his scorers.
 

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Embiid/Simmons/Butler/Harris

Harris is the weakest link of the bunch, but he's still a max guy in free agency this summer. If that doesn't meet your definition of superstar that's fine, but he's clearly a top level talent.
That doesn't meet the definition in the discussion about Brown elsewhere here :)
 

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Then there would be no need to protect the pick. They'd just offer the '19 pick if it weren't going to Boston. The way the OP was worded made it sound like a deal being made now, not on draft night (rolling over to a future pick if it doesn't convey this year).
I think he was thinking of the Clippers making the deal by tomorrow, which makes no sense for New Orleans. As a draft night trade the Philly deal literally allows the Clippers to fulfill the Pelicans' public demands (multiple lottery picks, second round picks, young, cost controlled players, etc.).
 

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No Twitter link here but this is 3rd hand info from a friend of a certain NBA players Dad. The short.

Bulls are shopping both LaVine and Dunn. They aren't extending Dunn with LaVine still here as they don't like the chemistry between them on the floor together to be worth two big contracts and feel a need to shake things up. If moves are made it would likely happen over the summer once LaVine's no-trade expires but Dunn could be heading to Phoenix sooner as they still don't even have a legitimate backup 1 on their roster much less a starting 1 next to Booker.
That would be awesome: a good situation for Dunn, and it would take away one of the only Lonzo destinations that works.
 

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No Twitter link here but this is 3rd hand info from a friend of a certain NBA players Dad. The short.

Bulls are shopping both LaVine and Dunn. They aren't extending Dunn with LaVine still here as they don't like the chemistry between them on the floor together to be worth two big contracts and feel a need to shake things up. If moves are made it would likely happen over the summer once LaVine's no-trade expires but Dunn could be heading to Phoenix sooner as they still don't even have a legitimate backup 1 on their roster much less a starting 1 next to Booker.
Dunn for Mikal Bridges and a 2? Phoenix is probably going to end up with a top four pick and one of the Duke wings.
 

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Stanley Johnson to Milwaukee for Thon Maker per Woj is done.
With that trade, six of the first eight picks in the 2015 draft didn't make it to the end of their rookie deal with the team that drafted them. Only KAT and Willie Cauley-Stein left.
 

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Presumably the trade is for Ryan Anderson. Anderson is guaranteed $15.6mm next year, and I assume MIA will buy him out for less than that.
 

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Am I the only Celtics fan happy to see Shamet leave the 76ers?
Absolutely not. I was petrified of that guy. He's got a beautiful stroke. I'm psyched to see him go.

I'm not as upset about this trade as I thought I'd be. It feels like a complete and total "GFIN" move by the Sixers. I just never bought into Butler co-existing with that roster and the personality of Embiid before, and bringing in Harris who is going to need touches that will have to come from Butler? I think that's got the potential to explode in the front office's face.
 

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Dunn for Mikal Bridges and a 2? Phoenix is probably going to end up with a top four pick and one of the Duke wings.
My guess is the trade looks something like Dunn and filler for TJ Warren and filler. For instance, Dunn and Lopez (FA) for Warren, Bender (FA) and Crawford (FA).

Dunn and Warren get to go to teams where the fit may be better for them.
 

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Shams: Here's a strong rotation trade candidate who is part of Miami/Phoenix trade: Heat guard Wayne Ellington is being sent to the Suns, sources tell @TheAthleticNBA @WatchStadium.

Not sure why Miami is doing this deal. I guess they get some breathing room salary-wise next year, but that's it.