Yes, I realize what Green is saying now. But do you believe him? It's obviously self-serving for him to say that. Sorry that I didn't address that piece, as it definitely clouded my previous post.
NBA Finals Gamethread or how the NBA has more downtime than Game Of Thrones
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I was unclear. Not saying this is where Kerr got T'd up but he could have because he did charge at the officials this time as well.
My over arching point stands. A T on Draymond there is silly and unnecessary. But it's Draymond so people will obviously say he had it coming.
In this story, they have the complete video of the 'second' technical. http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/06/draymond-green-ejected-game-4-nba-finals-warriors-cavaliers-technical-foul-steve-kerr-referees-john-goble-mike-callahan
At the .50 second mark, you'll see the replay, and the arm wave at the ref from Draymond after the whistle, and then the second whistle for the tee comes in. I agree with you that it's silly and unnecessary, but I have also seen technicals called at least a dozen times in the past couple months on other players in the league for basically the exact same thing. It's exactly why IT4 got his technical(s) in the playoffs. You aren't allowed to throw a dismissive gesture at the refs after a call. So, I have no issue with them giving him one there, if it was his second or his first, because if they are going to call it, they should be consistent and that one has been getting called all the time.
The first technical, IMO, was the far more blatant one. Not only did he deserve that, he should have received a flagrant foul for the hit to Shumpert's head, and I think it was Van Gundy that pointed that out at the time. When he found out the foul was called on him, he was incredulous, and he erupted and that's around the same time Kerr ran at the refs, seemingly in an effort to shield Draymond from them. There really isn't any other explanation for Kerr's reaction because there is no way he would have argued that Draymond didn't foul Shumpert.
Anyway, in the end, I'm just glad the Cavs won, and it didn't end up having an effect on the outcome of the game, but these situations where the refs completely lose control of the court are becoming more and more common. The referees are THE story in like every other game in these playoffs, and the NBA needs to figure out a way to fix this.
The only way the Cavs win is to turn this into a street fight game.
They seem to have gotten the memo and GS appeared for one game to be mentally fragile. We'll see who adjusts tomorrow night.
They seem to have gotten the memo and GS appeared for one game to be mentally fragile. We'll see who adjusts tomorrow night.
From my view, street fighting and fragility had a little bit less to do with the outcome of that game than the Cavs raining down holy hell from 3 pt land.
It looked to me like one team was extraordinarily hot from three and one was extraordinarily cold.
Donaghy: NBA definitely wants a Game 6: http://www.knbr.com/2017/06/12/donaghy-on-1050-nba-wants-a-game-6-for-more-revenue/
Factoring in how people will bet. I would not be suprised to see Laker fans move the needle more than that.
Here are the odds from a sharper book (Bookmaker). In fact, I'm sure Bovada modeled their odds directly from here or another book. You can see the win probabilities these odds translate to after removing the ~23% juice.
As you can see, arguing the odds between Utah and LA is a bit silly. Vegas is saying that almost no one has a legitimate chance beyond GSW and CLE, except maybe Boston and SA.
Yeah, LA is probably swayed by it's fan base and "OMG, LONZO BALL!!111!!!1!".
Refs really giving the Cavs fits. Soft call on Lebron and that call on Love was pretty shitty.
Did Curry do the douchey spin around not gonna look thing on his bricked 3? I dislike him the more I watch him.
How in the fuck did Kyrie make that shot after the steal?
And now Lebron. Holy shit. Don't count this team out folks.
And now Lebron. Holy shit. Don't count this team out folks.
I can't handle Curry and Dray's leather and lace routine either. I do like Durant and Klay though
I've seen very little of ZaZa other than the Leonard thing and a few plays in this game. Seems like a shithead.
I thought he pretty clearly put two hands in Kyrie's back and basically pushed him off the court.
Edit: Of course, guys like Tristan, Pachulia, Gortat, Sideshow Bob, etc. have been doing it constantly throughout the playoffs and it almost never gets called.
Okay, I need to see it again then because that's not what I saw live or on replay, but that last angle wasn't great.
I made a lot of these old man Jefferson jokes, but Jesus man, this guy is bringing it
If one of these games ever ends up close down the stretch, Cleveland better all of a sudden remember how to shoot free throws.
I'm sorry, but I just do not understand how that's a foul on the defensive player. I get the one where the defensive player lands in front of the shooter, and the shooter jumps straight into him, but when the defender is off to the side, he's entitled to that space.