NBA Finals Game 6--Resiliency

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I like Steph Curry. I wish he lost horribly, but I like him.
Same. I actively enjoy watching him on a general game basis, you’ll never know what you’ll see on a given night because of what he does. It’s spectacular.

Also helps I won a free pair of his shoes and some other swag a few years ago as part of a trivia contest for my Warriors/NBA knowledge.
 

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Almost stole a title a year early.

POBOBS isn’t a dummy he’s not going to reinvent the wheel because they fell a few quarters short. The holes are clear but very fillable. Lots of options.

Not saying they will be back but they are in as good a position as any team. If they are healthy they will be a wagon in the regular season next year, hopefully with a few more horses in the stable that can share the load.

The math is how much can you pull from the defense to improve the offense and caretaking without hurting the overall structure of the team? They were also a dominant offense down the stretch and had stretches of dominance in the playoffs that mostly weren’t sustained because of turnovers and decision making rather than a lack of talent.

They marginalized Al until tonight, that was dumb. They didn’t attempt to get mismatches down low until tonight. Dumb. They kept dribbling into double and triple teams instead of taking what the defense gave. I think they need another scorer/shooter but upheaval would be a mistake. The pieces are there.
I don't recall any team decimating the league like the Celtics did post-January. If they start out the year that way? It'll be interesting.

And they need another star other than Brown and Tatum. TL is great, but a bit worried about his knee.. hopefully it'll be ok by next season. I think they need another solid, veteran shooter who can also create his own offense and a PG that can spell Smart and also take some of the pressure off of Brown and Tatum to create their own shot or create offense.

I hope they get better next year.. and I hope Miami and Milwaukee have to play each other before the C's get to the ECF.
 

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I think with White on the roster, trading Smart is the correct move. Plus Marcus will be 29 and I dunno how long a guy like that can last.
 

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I also think if it's anyone but the Warriors from the West they still win. It was a brutal playoff path this year.
 

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The talk about the end of game 4, as if no team has ever squandered a 6 point lead is kind of nauseating, no?

It was a pretty darn good season, especially after how things looked halfway through. Sucks that it’s over but it certainly seems to me like the better team won the championship.

hope the c’s learn from this; it’s a young team with a pretty bright future and I think it’s premature to make any sweeping conclusions about anything right now.

all things considered, I feel like most of what we learned about this organizations core over the last few months was overwhelmingly positive. To be the second to last time standing isn’t the ultimate goal, but is something to be proud of.
 

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I’ve been vocal about needing to generally maintain the defensive integrity of the roster but it did feel throughout this series that they’d have been better with just one of Smart/White replacing the other with a more offense-oriented guy (who ideally can at least hold his own on D).

I don’t want to draw conclusions from one game but Smart made so many mistakes and weird plays/decisions on defense tonight that hurt a ton. I don’t know who the targets are though.
White was trash this series but he allows you to deal Smart, if a good deal arises. No real obvious targets so Smart money is just bench re-shuffling.
 

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OMG WHAT A FUCKING ASSHOLE SERIOUSLY FUCK THIS GUY FUCK HIM AND FUCK HIM
 

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I don’t see how he’s an ass. He seems like a decent enough dude.
Yeah, he seems like a really good dude. He’s pretty flamboyant on the court which can be annoying as hell to watch but off the court I don’t know how you could call him an ass.

In press conferences I thought he acquitted himself the best out of anyone associated with the Warriors. Never got up in arms about the F Draymond thing, didn’t call Smart dirty, and just seemed pretty stand up
 

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I get your point. I just think that’s a massive leap to make in order to bail someone out.
To be clear I wasn't trying to bail out that play. Pain can inform any decision, but I have no idea what was going on there. All I can say is that on a higher level, he had issues this series and it's difficult to explain. I totally get the pushback.
 

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You guys are watching the celebration? Fuckin masochists, you are
Meh. These guys aren’t the Blues or Giants. Very very tolerable. Honestly if it couldn’t be us, they’re not a team I mind by any means. I enjoy watching how they play. Kind of how I felt like seeing Barcelona for so many years

Although I still can’t stand Green in the role of Busquets.

Summarize for this of us drowning our sorrows and not watching?
‘WE WON IT IN THE GAHHHHHDEN!’
 

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The core of this Warriors team was saved by Wiggins and Looney. Experience played a part but it’s reductionist to chalk it up to past champions.
Fair point re: their secondary players stepping up. The Celtics couldn't even match up with another player like Poole or Wiggins for sure. But a key difference was also Steph/Klay/Draymond may have missed shots and made the occasional miscue, but nothing to the level of Jaylen and Jayson who were trying to score 5 points every possession.
 

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I don't recall any team decimating the league like the Celtics did post-January. If the start out the year that way? It'll be interesting.

And they need another star other than Brown and Tatum. TL is great, but a bit worried about his knee.. hopefully it'll be ok by next season. I think they need another solid, veteran shooter who can also create his own offense and a PG that can spell Smart and also take some of the pressure off of Brown and Tatum to create their own shot or create offense.

I hope they get better next year.. and I hope Miami and Milwaukee have to play each other before the C's get to the ECF.
The good news is Tatum and Brown proved themselves as bonafide 1/2 stars this season.

Jaylen especially, despite some mistakes and stinkers, was an absolute rock this spring and hit big shot after big shot. No fear. He was a bulldog tonight. (I mean especially in the sense that he had more to prove).

With the gravity those two create, they can bring in an above average guy and elevate him. Idk what 3 and D wings are out there but if they can add a legit one to this roster it would be huge because a guy like that can feast with two stars opening things up.
 

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Didn't happen this year but Tatum/Brown/TLord is a ridiculous good core. Plus Smart or whoever they trade him for. This team is going to contend for a long time.
 

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This team may have a bright future, but I just have a hard time seeing them get this close again for a long time. The league would have anointed Tatum if he'd won, but I suspect they'll move back to Giannis and the other "sexier" names. I think this team had a chance to be akin to the Pistons team that interrupted the steady stream of title wins for LA and San Antonio in the first decade of the new millennium. They won on defense and team play, the hallmarks of this team. Unfortunately, this team just did not have the same ability to play four complete quarters against the Dubs (and against other teams at times, which is part of the reason why they lost this series) in any one game and were outclassed by a team that knew how to close and how to play their game instead of their opponent's. Ime is going to learn a hard, hard lesson in this series: you can't keep letting your playmakers play braindead ball for large stretches of time, which means timlier timeouts and getting some run from the guys at the end of the bench. The Big Three Celtics that won a title in 2008 had PJ Brown, Leon Powe, and Scott Pollard coming off the bench, and all of them contributed to the title win (especially Brown). By not giving a couple of minutes to the "other" bench guys, who were fresher, he wore down guys who were already fatigued. You have to dance with the one(s) that brought you, including the one with the club foot for at least one spin around the dance floor.

But those Pistons never got back to the title game. I'm very concerned that this might be it for another 5-10 years.
 

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The talk about the end of game 4, as if no team has ever squandered a 6 point lead is kind of nauseating, no?

It’s not so much that they blew a small lead, it’s how it happened. They could make no baskets for a long stretch. They played very good D and just could not make a shot. It was a tough loss.
 

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I’m surprisingly at peace with the game and the season.

Missed opportunity and you never know what the future holds but I love the make up of the team. I think there are some improvements to be made for sure but I love building around Tatum and Brown. They are both fighters, hard workers and have the right mentality. Two way players and oh yeah…24 and 25 years old to boot.

Of course I am saying this with the assumption that Tatum’s shoulder replacement goes well or if he has to get a robotic shoulder that it works as well as a human shoulder
 

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I think with White on the roster, trading Smart is the correct move. Plus Marcus will be 29 and I dunno how long a guy like that can last.
Yeah.. I'm torn on Smart. I think he's too much of a wild card on the offensive end and forces you to play a certain way. If White can find his shot then Smart is expendable in a way.
Also his trade value has never been higher.
 

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I turned it off. Who is this in reference to?
Summarize for this of us drowning our sorrows and not watching?
What happened?
The owner, on accepting the trophy—which bugs me on a good day, though maybe because of it’s brutal accuracy—said part of his thank you in a faux Boston accent.

It is seriously, literally, one of the most gratuitous dick moves I have seen in professional sports.
 

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He also shot 11 free throws in the last three games TOTAL. Those two stats are somewhat intertwined.
He just doesn't get fouled as much as you think he does. I mean, he either doesn't get fouls or there's a ref bias/conspiracy against him, so yeah. I mean, his own coach even called him out for trying to hunt fouls and failing two games ago.
 

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Draymond single handedly drags them down. Fuck him.
Yeah I don’t like the guy either… but he kinda seems like a WWE act? Like his persona on the court is all for show, possibly decent human being off it. Maybe I’m wrong and I should go fuck myself. Still fuck him tho
 

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I would love to package Smart and White for one really good point guard but I doubt that’s possible
 

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I think with White on the roster, trading Smart is the correct move. Plus Marcus will be 29 and I dunno how long a guy like that can last.
I think we've seen peak Smart this past season. Selling high would not be the worst move, because these Finals showed that way too much is being put on Tatum's shoulders. Warriors supporting cast was far superior.
 

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Great idea, trade a key component of a run to game 6 of the finals, playing through who knows how many sprains, because your scorers can't perform (thus making Marcus play out of his role).
Yeah, wonder why 2 poor ball handlers aren’t performing. Good call.