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So without the 4-team playoff, it would have been Alabama shutting out #2 Ohio State, with Clemson winning some other BCS bowl by 30 and claiming they wuz robbed.
 

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I wonder if Alabama considered just tackling every receiver. Maybe it wouldn't have worked on a roll out, because the QB can score, but it's definitely an option to consider in that situation. Against a drop back QB you do it for sure I think.
 

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So without the 4-team playoff, it would have been Alabama shutting out #2 Ohio State, with Clemson winning some other BCS bowl by 30 and claiming they wuz robbed.
Pretty much, except Clemson finished #2 so they would have played anyway.
 

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Incredible game, and I'm not sorry to see Bama lose...but I'd be pretty pissed if I were a fan bc Clemson scored via two pretty obvious pick plays.

Above all, amazing game
 

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Incredible game, and I'm not sorry to see Bama lose...but I'd be pretty pissed if I were a fan bc Clemson scored via two pretty obvious pick plays.

Above all, amazing game
I guess. On the flip side, imagine how much worse Bama's defense would have looked if they'd lost Foster and Brown and maybe a 3rd guy had all been tossed for what could easily have been called targeting. Or if they called the hold on the 1st TD. There were plenty of officiating errors to go around. Clemson won because their offense played well and Bama's didn't.
 

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I know plenty of people will disagreeas they usually do on this topic, but Hurts would have been better off going djwn at like the 2 or 1 yard line and wasting more time. With bamas power run game they should be able to score on 4 plays from there and waste some more time
Clock stops in college while the sticks move, and they had to move a long way. And the power runner was in the medical tent.
 

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I guess. On the flip side, imagine how much worse Bama's defense would have looked if they'd lost Foster and Brown and maybe a 3rd guy had all been tossed for what could easily have been called targeting. Or if they called the hold on the 1st TD. There were plenty of officiating errors to go around. Clemson won because their offense played well and Bama's didn't.

Fair points - def some calls on both sides
 

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Great last 7 minutes of game time. Even the reviews other than the onsides kick were dealt with quickly. It was so much better than the playoff product the NFL put on the field this weekend.
 

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Great last 7 minutes of game time. Even the reviews other than the onsides kick were dealt with quickly. It was so much better than the playoff product the NFL put on the field this weekend.

Amen. If anything, that's an understatement - that was about 100x better. They ran waaaaay more plays than an NFL game
 

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Incredible game, and I'm not sorry to see Bama lose...but I'd be pretty pissed if I were a fan bc Clemson scored via two pretty obvious pick plays.

Above all, amazing game
I only saw the last one... and pulling for Clemson, but yeah. Isn't that a rule?
 

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Nick Saban has to answer some questions about their play calling in the 2nd half. I think Scarbrough had 12 carries for 87 yards and 2 td's at halftime. He had a grand total of 4 carries in the 2nd half. They just abandoned the run for no apparent reason in the 2nd half. Even their last touchdown drive, I was sitting there thinking to myself that they had enough time to run the ball, and if they had done so a couple of times, maybe they don't leave 2 minutes on the clock for Watson to come back down and win.

On a side note, has Watson confirmed if he's coming back or declaring for the draft yet? Man, would be fun if he came back for his senior year. He could finish with some monster career numbers. Last td tonight was his 50th touchdown (passing and rushing) of the season.
 

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Nick Saban has to answer some questions about their play calling in the 2nd half. I think Scarbrough had 12 carries for 87 yards and 2 td's at halftime. He had a grand total of 4 carries in the 2nd half. They just abandoned the run for no apparent reason in the 2nd half. Even their last touchdown drive, I was sitting there thinking to myself that they had enough time to run the ball, and if they had done so a couple of times, maybe they don't leave 2 minutes on the clock for Watson to come back down and win.

On a side note, has Watson confirmed if he's coming back or declaring for the draft yet? Man, would be fun if he came back for his senior year. He could finish with some monster career numbers. Last td tonight was his 50th touchdown (passing and rushing) of the season.

Scarborough got hurt
 

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I guess. On the flip side, imagine how much worse Bama's defense would have looked if they'd lost Foster and Brown and maybe a 3rd guy had all been tossed for what could easily have been called targeting. Or if they called the hold on the 1st TD. There were plenty of officiating errors to go around. Clemson won because their offense played well and Bama's didn't.
Then Boulware would have been gone too.
 

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Nick Saban has to answer some questions about their play calling in the 2nd half. I think Scarbrough had 12 carries for 87 yards and 2 td's at halftime. He had a grand total of 4 carries in the 2nd half. They just abandoned the run for no apparent reason in the 2nd half. Even their last touchdown drive, I was sitting there thinking to myself that they had enough time to run the ball, and if they had done so a couple of times, maybe they don't leave 2 minutes on the clock for Watson to come back down and win.

On a side note, has Watson confirmed if he's coming back or declaring for the draft yet? Man, would be fun if he came back for his senior year. He could finish with some monster career numbers. Last td tonight was his 50th touchdown (passing and rushing) of the season.
Scarborough got hurt in the 2nd half and left the game.
 

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Then Boulware would have been gone too.
yeah, I was just pointing out that there were a ton of things that could be called, and Bama fans on the balance don't really have more to complain about than Clemson not listing all the bad calls.
 

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Scarbrough went out with a leg injury in the 3rd Quarter and did not return.
Yeah, I forgot he went down as early as he did. I thought he had made it into the 4th quarter before he got hurt. I still think he should have had more than 4 carries before he got injured, and it's not like the guys behind him (Jacobs and Harris) aren't 14 star recruits who can run pretty damn well too. Harris was the leading rusher on the team, going for over 1,000 yards and averaged over 7 yards a carry for the year, and Jacobs is like lightning in a bottle. For a team that played with a lead for most of the game, Hurts shouldn't have had 31 passing attempts. Saban got away from the run way earlier than I thought they should have, and it also led to Clemson finishing with 99 plays on offense. The most of any team in history against an Alabama team. I'm surprised the Alabama defense was able to stand up at the end of the game, never mind come within a second of forcing a game tying field goal attempt.
 

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Was trying to post during game but in stadium cell service sucked. Crazy game. Fun reading this thread. So jacked for Hunter. Probably my sons best friend so he just about hyperventilated on the last TD. I won't ever forget seeing how happy he was. Just an amazing game.
 

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If, as Twitter wants, Alabama's backs tackled (Harbaughed?) the Clemson WRs on the last play and forced a FG, the US might not have seen sunrise.
Doesn't Watson jaunt into the end zone if that happens? Not that Bama could have tried anyway since they didn't call TO to discuss it. But with Watson out there it's really risky.
 

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Doesn't Watson jaunt into the end zone if that happens? Not that Bama could have tried anyway since they didn't call TO to discuss it. But with Watson out there it's really risky.
Running is risky too though bc with no timeouts, clemson loses if he doesn't make it
 

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Game can't end on a defensive penalty.

Qb isn't going to look up and surmise that a defensive hold might be happening, and then tuck it and run. With 6 seconds on the clock, Watson was almost definitely told he needed to throw it. So risky to run there.
 

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Qb isn't going to look up and surmise that a defensive hold might be happening, and then tuck it and run. With 6 seconds on the clock, Watson was almost definitely told he needed to throw it. So risky to run there.
Shoulda/Coulda/Woulda and all, but I think that Watson is an astute enough QB to see what was happening (and see the 4 or 5 flags that were out, see a clear path to the endzone and he would have waltzed in.
 

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Yes, but don't you basically force Clemson to decide between a final goal line try from a yard out or playing it safe and going to OT?
Yes, and Clemson surely would have kicked if they didn't score anyway. So in that sense given what happened it would have been a better option. But only given what happened.

I think as that play develops with Watson rolling right with 2 receivers and 2 DBs over there, if both DBs tackle the receivers there is nobody left standing anywhere near him to make the tackle.
 

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Pretty amazing offensive performance from Clemson. Watson threw for 420 and they got 91 on the ground. On the radio, the announcer mentioned that Bama gave up 62 yards per game on the season which was 20 yards less than the second team in the country (w. Kentucky).
 

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Shoulda/Coulda/Woulda and all, but I think that Watson is an astute enough QB to see what was happening (and see the 4 or 5 flags that were out, see a clear path to the endzone and he would have waltzed in.

It's certainly an interesting debate. Gonna miss college football for the next several months...
 

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Sean McDonough got some deserved grief for his Patriots MNF call a few weeks ago, but he was really good on the radio last night. Maybe it was a bad night; maybe it was Gruden.
 

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Amen. If anything, that's an understatement - that was about 100x better. They ran waaaaay more plays than an NFL game
I also think there were no TV timeouts. Every TD drive was filled with a review of the drive instead of the Dr. Pepper guy and Vince Wilfork in overalls.
Running is risky too though bc with no timeouts, clemson loses if he doesn't make it
Clemson still had one TO so running was definitely an option.
 

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I just watched the espn highlights of the game and they referenced Sarkisian five times. "Sarkisian is dialing up the plays" and then Hurts scores the go ahead touchdown on the broken play. Seems like no one can stand Kiffin.