Mookie Betts Promoted 6/28
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Okay, why wouldn't they option the pitcher who just started yesterday and so won't be available for several days anyway, and who caused them to be playing with a short bench by getting himself suspended?
jimbobim said:
I bet if any other Yankee were starting, Mookie would be in the lineup. Tonight he can watch, get his feet wet and maybe pinch run to get his feet wet.
There are reasons to hate Farrell's move. Not starting a kid against a dominant pitcher isn't one of them.
jimbobim said:
Have you not been following Betts? In his last 10 games he's had 2 or 3 hits in 5 of them alone. He's raked at both AA and AAA. He is one of the game's top hitting prospects, he was going to be on the club at some point this season, we are not talking about AAA filler. The FO obviously feels he can improve on the awful OF offense.
Also, he is not coming up to ride the pine, even the most incompetent management would not call its top prospect up to sit on the bench
I hope they don't give DLR more than one short start in the Bucket before recalling him. Rubby starts were the only must-see MLBtv the Red Sox were offering for most of June.
Mookie, Rubby, Xander and Christian are pretty cool names, though.
Mookie, Rubby, Xander and Christian are pretty cool names, though.
Speculatively, perhaps RLDR is getting traded?InsideTheParker said:
RLDR can average 98 mph over seven innings. Until his tommy john surgery, he was on track to be an ace pitcher. After tommy john, the question is whether (a) he could stay healthy, and (b) he could regain and improve command of his sinker. This year, RLDR has a 6.4 percent walk rate, which is the lowest rate of his career, over 125 batters faced. He's faced another 220 in AAA, and has a 10.4 percent walk rate. Combined, that's an unweighted 9.0 walk rate, which is still the lowest of his career. 170 batters faced is sufficient for walk rate to be predictive (http://www.fangraphs.com/library/principles/sample-size/), and he's faced 345. Perhaps a team decided to offer up a good young outfielder for a package including RLDR?
I'm not sure this possibility is less depressing though.
Couldn't RDLR being the odd man out simply be a matter of conserving his innings? He's about 7 innings short of his total from last year and June isn't even over. I'm fairly certain the intent isn't for him to double his workload from last year, which he's on pace to do at the moment. Sending him down means they can slow him down a bit and probably convert him to the bullpen in the second half.
It could only be he or Workman going down today, and Workman has the higher ceiling in terms of an innings cap. They probably feel a lot more comfortable riding him a lot deeper into the season than they are with RDLR.
It could only be he or Workman going down today, and Workman has the higher ceiling in terms of an innings cap. They probably feel a lot more comfortable riding him a lot deeper into the season than they are with RDLR.
curly2 said:
If they aren't interested now, one good start won't do a lot to change their minds.
The Mort Report said:
Yes - hits against:
Nick Additon
Kelvin De La Cruz
Jim Miller
Heath Bell
Danny Burawa
Matt Daley
Joel De La Cruz
Logan Darnell
Alex Meyer
Michael Tonkin
vs. facing the 2014 Cy Young winner in your first major league at bat.
Or, he could have wasted a day in Pawtucket and had some hot weiners and Del's...which, on 2nd thought, isn't such a bad trade off.
geoduck no quahog said:
Valid point, but the only way he is going to get a chance to hit ML pitching is by getting at bats in the ML. Maybe I misread the original post I quoted, I did not interpret it as just for tonight. But as for tonight, it is going to be his first exposure to the Bigs, I'm completely for giving him a day to sit in the dugout, meet his teammates and get a feel for it for one night before he plays tomorrow
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I know it's best to let him sit one game and adjust but DAMN I HOPE MOOKIE PLAYS TONIGHT!! I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE OUR FUTURE RICKEY HENDERSON!
I know it's best to let him sit one game and adjust but DAMN I HOPE MOOKIE PLAYS TONIGHT!! I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE OUR FUTURE RICKEY HENDERSON!
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Farrell said Sox wanted to give Betts "a day to settle in." Will start tomorrow.
Farrell said Sox wanted to give Betts "a day to settle in." Will start tomorrow.
Red(s)HawksFan said:
I wish they could just be honest about it sometime. Everyone in the media, and almost everyone on this board, knows that he's sitting so as not to start his career against Tanaka. Just say it, Farrell; it's not going to hurt anyone by telling the truth
Papelbon's Poutine said:
Brock is a very cool player, but if it weren't for Boogie Nights, I wouldn't be able to remember his name.
Nor Brandon, Allan, Anthony, Garin or all the other forgettable names that I expect to see on the 2015 Red Sox.
Actually, Garin's not bad. Maybe the Rutles need another guitarist.
geoduck no quahog said:
With Pedroia you would literally have to drag him off the field. So, it's going to be hard. He barely likes to take a single day off, let alone "a few" and I'm sure he'd hate to have a highly touted rookie out there playing in his spot.
I don't see where the Sox are being dishonest about anything. If its a regular person, and you're a kid, and you get a promotion, and you have to switch cities, and you have completely new co-workers, do you want to be told "oh yeah, you have to make a presentation today"? Or would you hope for and a expect a day when you could come in, meet everyone, get a little settled, and get down to the business of your job in the morning? The Sox are dealing with real live human young men, and giving a guy a day to get settled - and maybe pinch-hit or pinch-run - seems to be the wise course.
BosRedSox5 said:
It would not surprise me if Mookie didn't play a single game at 2B unless Pedroia is hurt. No way to the Sox want to give the media a chance to clamor for Dustin's head. If Pedroia only had one more year on his contract no big deal, but Betts' position on this team is not at 2nd
rembrat said:
The Hall of Fame isn't good enough. If they don't found a new institution to honor the greatness that will be his career, I'll be disappointed.
seageral said:
They didn't do it with JBJ since his debut was Opening Day last year...he'd been with the team all spring at that point, no real "settling in" to be done.
But this year alone, they've done it with Cecchini and Hassan. Last year, they did it with Bogaerts. It's not an unusual step. Surely the kid's heart has been going a thousand miles an hour since he got up this morning with having to travel to the Bronx and put on a big league uniform in a big league clubhouse for the first time in his life. No harm in letting him soak it all in and get most of the "holy shit I'm in the show" out of his system so he can concentrate 100% on the game tomorrow night.
That he avoids a nasty pitcher in the process is a bonus.
The Mort Report said:
Sure Pedroia's having a down year and may be in decline, but is anyone really going to clamor for his head if Betts plays a game at second? Especially when Betts can play outfield, which has been a black hole on offense (other than Holt)?
As good as Tanaka is he usually only goes 6-7 IP. Betts should have a PH opportunity tonight against a lesser pitcher in what should be a close game.
To be fair to Mazz(difficult for me), he stressed he wasn't saying Mookie should replace Pedey. He was saying if the Sox hadn't signed Pedey to the extension there would be people who would now say(him I assume though he didn't really say so) that they shouldn't re-sign Pedey and should go with Mookie.Papelbon's Poutine said:
Kind of a pointless discussion since when the extension happened pretty much everyone was for it(including Mazz) but they have lots of time to fill and they are very lazy and like to stir things up.
Let's all sing the "I hate Fox Saturday broadcasts" song. Hey, didya know that Babe Ruth played on the Red Sox but they sold him to the Yankees?richgedman'sghost said:
Of for fuck's sake. You're basically asking me to remember whether I had a breakfast sandwich for breakfast on a specific date five years ago. I don't remember the routine things and without a place to look it up, you're simply asserting that your memory trumps mine which is not necessarily the case.Papelbon's Poutine said:
Read the thread. Every rookie called up mid season since at least Farrell was manager hasn't played their first game on their first day. The closest player to Betts, obviously, would be Bogaerts. Extreme talents being brought up to supplement the team. X was deliberately called up on the road, and then sat the first and third games he was up.Papelbon's Poutine said:
Okay, soxprospects.com has callup dates.
Xander Bogaerts called up 8/19, first played 8/20
Joey Gathright called up 9/1/2009 first played 9/2/2009
I don't remember what time of day the trade went down but Victor Martinez was acquired on July 31 and first played on Aug 1. Casey Kotchman, also acquired on July 31 first played on Aug 2, both in 2009, of course.
And in 2007, Eric Gagne was acquired at the deadline and didn't appear until Aug 2.
So, there ya go. Several examples under Tito, one under Farrell, and I've done enough scrolling through the transactions for the day.
Xander Bogaerts called up 8/19, first played 8/20
Joey Gathright called up 9/1/2009 first played 9/2/2009
I don't remember what time of day the trade went down but Victor Martinez was acquired on July 31 and first played on Aug 1. Casey Kotchman, also acquired on July 31 first played on Aug 2, both in 2009, of course.
And in 2007, Eric Gagne was acquired at the deadline and didn't appear until Aug 2.
So, there ya go. Several examples under Tito, one under Farrell, and I've done enough scrolling through the transactions for the day.
Rasputin said:
I was in a van on my way to Baltimore for the series when this happened. It was mid to late afternoon, so I don't think he fits with the rest of your examples.