MLB Trade Deadline 2020 Thread

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Right-hander Cal Quantrill and shortstop Gabriel Arias are part of a larger package going back to Cleveland as Mike Clevinger heads to San Diego, sources tell ESPN.

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Outfielder Josh Naylor is going to Cleveland in the Clevinger deal, too. He’ll immediately slot in to left field.


EDIT: Rosenthal says Joey Cantillo also in deal.
EDIT #2: Passan says Austin Hedges in deal, plus 1 more player (6 in all). Wow. No wonder CLE pulled the trigger. Massive haul.
 
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Right-hander Cal Quantrill and shortstop Gabriel Arias are part of a larger package going back to Cleveland as Mike Clevinger heads to San Diego, sources tell ESPN.

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Outfielder Josh Naylor is going to Cleveland in the Clevinger deal, too. He’ll immediately slot in to left field.


EDIT: Rosenthal says Joey Cantillo also in deal.
Looks like Hedges to Cleveland too. Still, less of a slam dunk package than I’d thought they’d get for Clevinger.
 

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Total haul for Cleveland in the Mike Clevinger deal, per sources: RHP Cal Quantrill, LF Josh Naylor, C Austin Hedges, SS Gabriel Arias, LHP Joey Cantillo, SS Owen Miller.

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Three top 11 prospects in a very good system and three cost-controlled (fringy) major leaguers. I think CLE did very well here.

EDIT: Rosenthal says CLE adding Greg Allen and a PTNBL.
 

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Total haul for Cleveland in the Mike Clevinger deal, per sources: RHP Cal Quantrill, LF Josh Naylor, C Austin Hedges, SS Gabriel Arias, LHP Joey Cantillo, SS Owen Miller.

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Three top 11 prospects in a very good system and three cost-controlled (fringy) major leaguers. I think CLE did very well here.
That's an awesome job by Cleveland.
 

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Clevinger is an ace and under control until 2023, but this is a bounty for the Indians. Arias has a huge ceiling, Quantrill is pedigreed and seemingly putting it together this year, Naylor is solid, Miller was a third rounder, and Cantillo had an absolute breakout last year. Just a massive, massive amount of talent for a guy who, though elite, has only thrown 200 innings once and had ostracized his teammates in the middle of a pandemic.
 

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I’m kind of having the opposite reaction. San Diego got Clevinger without having to give up any of Abrams, Patino, Campusano, or Gore.

That’s a great deal for Preller. He pretty much gave up roster depth and high ceiling prospects that were blocked/at the bottom of his top 10 and years away.
 

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the trade machine finds this deal fairly even, but it doesn't feel like there will likely be an impact player is in the return for CLE. Maybe they turn Quantrill into a good starter.

 

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I don't have time to look into the Clevinger haul today, but my initial reaction is quantity over quality. I have zero interest in Hedges. They already have two excellent defensive catchers who at least hit better than him. Quantrill seems to slot pretty far down Cleveland's depth chart. I hope Naylor has more upside than first glance, but I was afraid the Indians would overrate him last year when the Kluber/Bauer rumors were flying… he was the most obvious piece from San Diego as both an MLB ready outfielder and the brother of their 1st round draft pick from a couple years ago. I hope Arias is a serious stud, because half of Cleveland's top prospect list is toolsy shortstops who are a few years away… there was no need to prioritize an eventual replacement for Lindor. I don't know… I hope it's just that I was wishing Atlanta would meet the asking price. Regardless, the Indians will always ultimately disappoint their fans with their cheapness.
 

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But, apparently, not a "slam dunk"
That’s how I see it, yeah.

Cleveland’s return fills some holes cheaply, which makes sense for them with Lindor, Carrasco and Ramirez (and Hand, if they keep him) making big money next year, and allows them to decline Roberto Perez’s option if they want. But it’s a bunch of long-term, controllable pieces without a ton of individual upside, and it seems weird not to get a Top 100 guy for 2+ years of an ace like Clevinger.

Cantillo is a soft-tossing lefty ranked lower on their prospect list than Hudson Potts, the guy we got for Moreland. Arias is the top prospect in the deal and doesn’t crack the top 100. Scouting reports on Arias project him as an Orlando Arcia type. From Naylor‘s reports, he looks to me like a Lucas Duda sort of player. I like Quantrill more than most, but he was the 27th guy in their system last year according to FG.

Edit: or what Ford Frick’s Asterisk said.
 
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I don't have time to look into the Clevinger haul today, but my initial reaction is quantity over quality. I have zero interest in Hedges. They already have two excellent defensive catchers who at least hit better than him. Quantrill seems to slot pretty far down Cleveland's depth chart. I hope Naylor has more upside than first glance, but I was afraid the Indians would overrate him last year when the Kluber/Bauer rumors were flying… he was the most obvious piece from San Diego as both an MLB ready outfielder and the brother of their 1st round draft pick from a couple years ago. I hope Arias is a serious stud, because half of Cleveland's top prospect list is toolsy shortstops who are a few years away… there was no need to prioritize an eventual replacement for Lindor. I don't know… I hope it's just that I was wishing Atlanta would meet the asking price. Regardless, the Indians will always ultimately disappoint their fans with their cheapness.
I have said this a few times in recent years, but I think that CLE does their best to move their players to the NL if at all possible so they don't come back and bite them directly, and I think in this case it may have ended up hurting their return some.
 

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I don't have time to look into the Clevinger haul today, but my initial reaction is quantity over quality. I have zero interest in Hedges. They already have two excellent defensive catchers who at least hit better than him. Quantrill seems to slot pretty far down Cleveland's depth chart. I hope Naylor has more upside than first glance, but I was afraid the Indians would overrate him last year when the Kluber/Bauer rumors were flying… he was the most obvious piece from San Diego as both an MLB ready outfielder and the brother of their 1st round draft pick from a couple years ago. I hope Arias is a serious stud, because half of Cleveland's top prospect list is toolsy shortstops who are a few years away… there was no need to prioritize an eventual replacement for Lindor. I don't know… I hope it's just that I was wishing Atlanta would meet the asking price. Regardless, the Indians will always ultimately disappoint their fans with their cheapness.
Are you shocked they moved Clevenger? IIRC you thought the Covid stuff with him and Plesac wouldn’t result in this happening.
 

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I think it's a money thing much more than a Covid thing, CLE is acting more and more like TB in that they deal guys when they are a couple of years away from FA and move on to the next set of underpaid young guys who seem to perform nicely themselves. McKenzie's debut certainly made it easier also.
 

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Are you shocked they moved Clevenger? IIRC you thought the Covid stuff with him and Plesac wouldn’t result in this happening.
I'm a bit surprised they made a major move right now, but as I posted earlier this isn't about the COVID-19 protocol. Moving Clevinger almost certainly puts Plesac back in the rotation, so it would be the most bizarre punishment ever to ship one out of town to the reward of the other. As an Indians fan, it just gets frustrating that payroll is always the deciding factor. They can't be buyers without also being sellers. Everything is done to try to be a long-term wild card level team and hope luck eventually falls on their side (this is Cleveland, luck will never be on their side).
 

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Blue Jays get the remnants of Robbie Ray, they are also going for it on a much smaller scale.
 

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MLBN teasing a Starling Marte move. Can’t find any specifics from anyone usually reliable on Twitter but it would hold consistent with mauidano’s post in the Yankees deadline thread.
 

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I see Zach Plesac got called back up to take Clevinger's spot in the rotation and will start tomorrow for Cleveland.

Was Clevinger just a "dead man walking" with Cleveland after his nonsense a few weeks ago?
 

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I see Zach Plesac got called back up to take Clevinger's spot in the rotation and will start tomorrow for Cleveland.

Was Clevinger just a "dead man walking" with Cleveland after his nonsense a few weeks ago?
That didn't help but they have a seemingly unlimited supply of young cost-controlled SPs so it made some sense to sell high on him while he still had a few years left on his deal.