MLB Local TV Announcer Rankings (voted on by fans)

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The MLB Local TV Announcer Rankings http://t.co/lOlHUz4Dbf

Awful Announcing created this poll and the fans voted on it (I think they just linked to the vote totals in the first paragraph).

Two things stood out to me
First that Vin was not 1st
and that NESN is pretty well received by baseball fans
 

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Some that stuck out for me:
 
Toronto is ranked too high.  They're easily worse than some teams below them.
 
I don't mind the Cleveland guys.  I thought they'd be in the top half.
 
Tampa at 16?  After Hawk, Kay and maybe Buck is anyone worse?
 
Edit- wait Baltimore is third?  I think Thorne is almost unlistenable, if that's a word.
 

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Disappointed to see Lyons made the cut for the list of NESN analysts (so it's timely) but Wake didn't.  They saw fit to include Derek Lowe though, even though the only thing he's done is occasionally fill in for Remy when the Sox are in St. Pete.
 
I like two of the reader comments/tweets that were included.  One saying Orsillo is better with Eck, the other ripping on the incessant and pointless puff pieces, polls, and product shilling that goes on during broadcasts.  Both dead on.
 

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Great to see the Yankees crew finish 25th. Even their own awful fans know they're awful. However, the overall standards of Yankee broadcasts- video, audio, directing, replays, etc. are network quality if not better. Their announcers are the bug in that system.
 
Giants #1 is a surprise for me, I find them kind of generic to homerish. Dodgers, Mets and Orioles are all first rate broadcast teams and deserve top-5 status.
 

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What makes the Giants number one is their depth. They've got four announcers and they're all excellent and funny, too. Scully is Scully - though I listened to a Giants-Dodgers game from 1978 on my iPhone today, and he's definitely lost a few steps - but the other three Dodger announcers are decidedly meh.
 
I also disagree with the White Sox being last. I find Harrelson more amusing at this point than anything else, and Stone is one of the best half-dozen TV analysts in the game. There's so many crews who are boring AND bad, and say what you want about Harrelson, but he's not boring. The Cards are dull - McLaughlin is just an announcer guy and Hrabosky is a miserable, frequently wrong asshole. It's like having an Angry White Guy from the Tea Party in the booth. McCarver will be a distinct improvement - at least he's genial. Physioc and Hudler are also really, really bad.
 
The Padres deserved to be ranked higher due to Enberg. He might not have had the peak of Scully, but he's lost fewer steps. The man's 80 and still brings it every night.
 
I was also surprised the Mets finished behind the Orioles, given how the New York media (deservedly) loves the Gary/Keith/Ron trio. The Orioles are good, but I'd probably put them fourth.
 

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You guys really think that Thorne is good?  I used to like him a lot when he did hockey but he seems to be in way over his head with baseball.
 

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ifmanis5 said:
Great to see the Yankees crew finish 25th. Even their own awful fans know they're awful. However, the overall standards of Yankee broadcasts- video, audio, directing, replays, etc. are network quality if not better. Their announcers are the bug in that system.
 
Giants #1 is a surprise for me, I find them kind of generic to homerish. Dodgers, Mets and Orioles are all first rate broadcast teams and deserve top-5 status.
 
Kay coasts on the fact that he's fucking Mel Allen compared to the two morons in the radio booth.
 
Also, the Giants generic??? I could buy homerish - Krukow can get pretty mad when a Giants pitcher doesn't get a called strike over the plate - but generic? You've got a really deadpan, dry humored Midwesterner, a bombastic surfer dude, and a loud, jolly, excitable uncle for 3/4ths of the broadcast team. Only Flemming could be called anything like generic, and he's got a good sense of humor too.
 

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Spacemans Bong said:
Also, the Giants generic??? I could buy homerish - Krukow can get pretty mad when a Giants pitcher doesn't get a called strike over the plate - but generic? 
Generic in the sense that they are exactly how you'd expect your local TV guys to sound like, they're just more enjoyable and smarter at it than the others. Being above Vin or the Hernandez/Darling combo is too high a ranking for them.
 

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Vin Scully is heads and shoulders above everyone else. Similar to comparing other great relievers to Mariano Rivera. That this poll doesn't reflect that makes everything suspect.
 

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ifmanis5 said:
Great to see the Yankees crew finish 25th. Even their own awful fans know they're awful. However, the overall standards of Yankee broadcasts- video, audio, directing, replays, etc. are network quality if not better. Their announcers are the bug in that system.
 
Giants #1 is a surprise for me, I find them kind of generic to homerish. Dodgers, Mets and Orioles are all first rate broadcast teams and deserve top-5 status.
Agreed. The YES production quality is exceptional and this extends beyond their game coverage. Also, the YES post-game interview with Joe G. actually features specific question of depth with follow up. It's usually an actually engaging conversation.

Meanwhile, NESN has always been substandard outside of their game coverage and min my view is in the process of applying that extremely low standard to their actual game coverage. For example, if NESN can't keep the Amica Ad/pitch zone up for every pitch AND maintain the ability to have the score bug remain on the screen for everything but replays... Don't!

NESN is especially failing in the process of communicating the information I actually need to know. If there is a speedy runner at first, you can go a minute without seeing the center field camera and never see the score. It's like a unwelcome flashback to TV sports 1990.
 

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Overall, that's a surprisingly fair list.  My biggest disagreements are with the Mets ranked 4th and the Os ranked 3rd.
 
I really cannot stand anyone in the Mets booth except Darling.  Cohen doesn't suck as a play-by-play guy, but he's got the likability of a two week old lemon.  And Keith Hernandez is ... well, Keith Hernandez.  (Which is to say that he's the same smarmy douchebag that he was back in the 80s.)
 
I don't mind Gary Thorne the way others do, but ranking them third is absurd.  They are middle of the pack at best.
 
Agree with the comment by GH about Tampa.  They are pathetically bad and deserve to be near the bottom.
 
The two things that warm my heart are the fact that Scully is still ranked at or near the top well into his 80s and Hawk Harrelson is still recognized as being the biggest joke on the air.  He's almost worthy of a separate category.
 

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Yaz4Ever said:
Vin Scully is heads and shoulders above everyone else. Similar to comparing other great relievers to Mariano Rivera. That this poll doesn't reflect that makes everything suspect.
 
Scully is incredible and has been for a while, but I can understand some people not loving his style.  I find him more impressive than enjoyable as an announcer, especially as he's gotten older.  He should still be near the top.  Sometimes though I'd like to watch a Dodger game without the nonstop running commentary, despite how amazing the content can be at times.
 

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The best part of the Red Sox broadcasts is the shot from the LF wall that the great Tom Guilmette nails every time by following super tight on the ball and over for the homer. NFL Films level shooting.
 

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ifmanis5 said:
The best part of the Red Sox broadcasts is the shot from the LF wall that the great Tom Guilmette nails every time by following super tight on the ball and over for the homer. NFL Films level shooting.
Maybe when we're all paying $7/month for ESPN the Mothership will be able to afford to freelance Tom's services. In addition to being an awesome angle, it's not like this view would ever be of value during a replay situation.
 

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I don't get the Orioles team being in the top half, much less third overall. Other than that and the Rays being a bit high I think the list is solid. I would have flipped the top two, but that's nitpicking.
 

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I'm not on the Scully bandwagon... he just doesn't shut up EVER (I know... it's radio, too... but can you breathe for a second?). 
 
Braves team should be higher, D'Backs, Mariners and Rays much lower, imo.
 

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I know you guys have to shit on Kay because he blows (or am I just assuming the fallacy of the predetermined outcome?), but the color guys aren't all terrible. Flaherty and Singleton will put you to sleep but I really like Cone and Leiter. I also like O'Neill but I'm willing to admit that it could just be my eternal love for him; either way he doesn't do that many games.
 
Anyway, this should be a thread to join together in our hatred of Hawk. In case anyone didn't click through to the link, this video is gold:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBwNiZmnSDM
 

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I like Leiter but Cone is garbage.  He gets whinier or more biased each season it seems.  Leiter is pretty objective and makes some good points.  And I love when he gets annoyed at Kay for asking idiotic questions.
 

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I like Leiter but Cone is garbage.  He gets whinier or more biased each season it seems.  Leiter is pretty objective and makes some good points.  And I love when he gets annoyed at Kay for asking idiotic questions.
 
His voice is whiny, but I don't see the bias or whining about calls. I may just not have noticed it so far this season, though. At least he's sabermetrically inclined and has brought some forward thinking to the broadcasts. If you've ever heard Kay try to go after sabermetrics when they do games together, I think you'd take pity on Cone. Kay comes up with the stupidest goddamn arguments that Cone valiantly argues against, but at some point he has no choice but to be like "OK, I see your point" and end it because Kay won't. He's really insufferable. And yes, Leiter clearly thinks he's a fucking idiot.
 

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Yaz4Ever said:
Vin Scully is heads and shoulders above everyone else. Similar to comparing other great relievers to Mariano Rivera. That this poll doesn't reflect that makes everything suspect.
 
Individually he probably is.  But you have to consider the rest of the crew too.  If Scully had Joe Morgan and Tim McCarver dragging him down, there's no way the Dodgers are still #1.
 
I think the Rays should be dead last.  I'd much rather listen to Hawk than DeWayne Staats and those other turds.
 
And Orsillo/Eck is top 5.
 

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I think the Rays should be dead last.  I'd much rather listen to Hawk than DeWayne Staats and those other turds.
 
Don't get this. To me Staats is Hawk-lite. He's terrible, but if you hate his shtick, you should hate Hawk's even more. There's no one in the game as terrible and unprofessional as Hawk - just look at that video above. He can't even bring himself to speak when something really good happens for the other team. He ruined Buehrle's perfect game for me because I didn't want Hawk to be happy which took away from just watching it and enjoying it. That's how much he bugs me.
 

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When you tune into the occasional Dodger game and listen to Vin, he is awesome. It is when you watch Dodger games on an almost daily basis that you realize he is just telling the same stories over and over again. It gets tiring.
 
Of the Giants 4 guys, Kuiper is the one that flies under the radar. He has a subtle sense of humor and will rip into the occasional GIant when he thinks they've done something stupid.
 

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Glad to see the Mets team get a deserving, high ranking. Those guys are exceptional.
 
The only issue is that they are really best when it is all three. I don't think it is nearly as good a booth when it is only Gary + 1. 
 

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What's the story with Hernandez?  I've probably turned on a Mets game 5 or 6 times so far this year and he hasn't been in the booth once.
 

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What's the story with Hernandez?  I've probably turned on a Mets game 5 or 6 times so far this year and he hasn't been in the booth once.
 
He's Keith Hernandez. He can do whatever he wants to.
 

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Fuck him.  He asked me to help him move after only knowing him a week.  He had a huge sectional and a marble coffee table.