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MakMan44

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For Kendrick? Because that would be brilliant. 
 
EDIT:That posted as I was typing this. God, I hate how well run the Dodgers are becoming. 
 

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Wow, how much money did he make thanks to his brief success with the NYY?  Amazing.
 
Seriously.  As Joel Sherman said on MBLN, it's surprising that an analytics-heavy FO is making a decision that is seemingly based on SSS.
 

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Curll said:
 
Wrongo. It is Austin Barnes
Why not both?
 
EDIT: YEah, it's both 
https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/542911165068615680
 

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I'm having a blast watching Friedman work without one hand tied behind his back. Good for him.
He's going to be in big-time on Shields, I think.
 

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I think McCarthy will turn out to be a great signing for the Dodgers. Really sad the Yankees didn't bring him back. I think he would've been a very solid pitcher for them over the life of the contract.
 

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Scherzer to NYY seems to be inevitable IMO.
An idea just crawled out of my ass.

What if the Astros think they're close enough that they just open the vault for Scherzer? It probably doesn't put them over the top but it would energize the franchise and the fanbase and legitimize them to some degree, making it easier to sign one of the free agents next off season.
 

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Rasputin said:
An idea just crawled out of my ass.

What if the Astros think they're close enough that they just open the vault for Scherzer? It probably doesn't put them over the top but it would energize the franchise and the fanbase and legitimize them to some degree, making it easier to sign one of the free agents next off season.
It would be pretty cool. Top two free agents not going to the usual suspects for once.
 

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Padres are about to get Kemp...I wonder how much $$$ LAD is eating.
 
I mean is Matt Kemp really THAT different from Carlos Quentin
 

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Rasputin said:
An idea just crawled out of my ass.

What if the Astros think they're close enough that they just open the vault for Scherzer? It probably doesn't put them over the top but it would energize the franchise and the fanbase and legitimize them to some degree, making it easier to sign one of the free agents next off season.
 
Shelling out the big money for Scherzer, even overpaying him, would not be unlike what the Nationals did with Jayson Werth. It looked like an idiotic move at the time, and the Nationals were mocked at the time, but that was a team that looked in its minor leagues and saw guys coming that were coming to make this team a perrenial playoff contender. It also told the rest of the league, and the players in it, that they were serious about winning and they were going to do what it takes. I don't think the Nats regret that huge contract one bit.
 
Houston right now is in a similar position to the pre-Werth Nats.
 

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Looks like Kemp to the Padres is going down.  That frees a lot of money for the Dodgers.  Wouldn't be surprised if they go for Scherzer or deal for Hamels.  Dodgers fans were convinced their lineup couldn't afford to lose Kemp, but if you have the pitching that they are lining up, you won't need many runs.  Kershaw-Greinke-Scherzer-Ryu would be an epic playoff rotation.  
 

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Wingack said:
 
Shelling out the big money for Scherzer, even overpaying him, would not be unlike what the Nationals did with Jayson Werth. It looked like an idiotic move at the time, and the Nationals were mocked at the time, but that was a team that looked in its minor leagues and saw guys coming that were coming to make this team a perrenial playoff contender. It also told the rest of the league, and the players in it, that they were serious about winning and they were going to do what it takes. I don't think the Nats regret that huge contract one bit.
 
Houston right now is in a similar position to the pre-Werth Nats.
 
I don't disagree. But I would be a lot more comfortable picking up a big contract hitter than pitcher. Not crazy about signing a pitcher to contend 3 years from now.
 

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Hee Sox Choi said:
Looks like Kemp to the Padres is going down.  That frees a lot of money for the Dodgers.  Wouldn't be surprised if they go for Scherzer or deal for Hamels.  Dodgers fans were convinced their lineup couldn't afford to lose Kemp, but if you have the pitching that they are lining up, you won't need many runs.  Kershaw-Greinke-Scherzer-Ryu would be an epic playoff rotation.  
 
I would try to deal Greinke if I signed Scherzer to get value before he opts out
 

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WTF is taking so long on details on the Rollins trade? What Amaro took for him may give some insight on how reasonable he is being this year. I know not much, but the trade has been reported for six or seven hours now and they still can't find out what LAD gave up? In the words of PK, weird.
 
Well, I thought I saw somewhere that they are part of the Kemp deal to SD.
 

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Papelbon's Poutine said:
They just signed McCarthy and traded for Rollins and Kendrick (albeit only one year on both of those) to take up Kemps' salary relief. I'm not sure they jump in on Scherzer, but I guess they could. There was talks they might want to actually dial it back a notch this season. They'll need to fill 3B, SS and 2B after the year, plus if Greinke opts out, SP. Not impossible but that's crazy even for them. I'm still not convinced they got in on Lester for anything other than irking/driving price up for Giants - they basically just phoned in an offer and never even met with him.

Would be crazy though. They'd be pushing what, $105M on the rotation alone in AAV? Kershaw ($31M), Greinke ($25M), Ryu ($6M), McCarthy ($12M), Scherzer (~$30M?). Throw In $10M more for Haren trade. I know they have "more money than God", but really?
They have to be in on Moncada.
 

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Wow. Only 3 years. I wonder why he picked the White Sox, I know the M's, O's and Blue Jays were all sticking at 3 years and it's weird he picked the White Sox over them. 
 
EDIT: Seems like the overpaid a bit in AAV to get him there. Smart signing for them. 
 

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I think the White Sox have a better chance to win the Central than the M's do in the West. Plus, while Comiskey isn't a great hitters park, I would assume it is better than Safeco.
 

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I think the White Sox have a better chance to win the Central than the M's do in the West. Plus, while Comiskey isn't a great hitters park, I would assume it is better than Safeco.
 
Disagree. The teams who finished 1-2 in the AL West have gotten worse while the Mariners have upgraded from Justin Smoak to Nelson Cruz (assuming he never puts on a glove). Texas will likely be better, and the Astros won't be pushovers, but I'd probably pick Seattle if the season were to start right now. Chicago's made some nice moves, but they still have some work to do.
 

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ThePrideofShiner said:
I think the White Sox have a better chance to win the Central than the M's do in the West. Plus, while Comiskey isn't a great hitters park, I would assume it is better than Safeco.
New Comiskey is a very good hitter's park. 
 

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New Comiskey is a very good hitter's park. 
 
Well, then choosing Chicago makes even more sense. I also read that Cabrera didn't want to sign on the West Coast, so maybe he was just using Seattle to drive up the market.
 

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Well, then choosing Chicago makes even more sense. I also read that Cabrera didn't want to sign on the West Coast, so maybe he was just using Seattle to drive up the market.
Here's my homework.  
http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/parkfactor
 
[SIZE=14.3999996185303px]Mariners are in a tough spot. They are have to over-spend to get any decent slugger. You can that for all teams but more so for Seattle.[/SIZE]
 

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Three years for Jed Lowrie.  Goodness gracious.  
 
Edit:  Sounds like he's getting about $7mm/year, which is not completely crazy.  I'm still surprised the Astros are bringing him back after he had such an injury-riddled stay with them previously.
 

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Well that's one way to restock a franchise.

The deal also makes more sense for the Padres than Upton ever did.
 

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I didn't realize the Padres won 77 games last year despite only scoring 535 runs. Scored the fewest runs in the NL, allowed the 2nd fewest runs in the NL.

Even in the same Division as the Dodgers and Giants, if they can put together even an average offensive team I think they could contend for the 2nd Wild Card. (It helps that the Rockies and DBacks will probably suck again in 2015)

A Kennedy/Ross/Cashner/Despaigne rotation is no joke.
 

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From MLBTR:
 
8:40pm: Passan tweets that there’s a chance that the players acquired in a potential Myers deal could be flipped to another club. While the deal currently being discussed only involved Tampa and San Diego, he gets the sense that the situation could mirror the Dodgers’ acquisition of Andrew Heaney. While Passan doesn’t specify, I’d imagine that the Padres are more apt to hang onto Myers than flip him.
Topkin tweets, however, that it’s possible that a third team is indeed in the mix, further complicating the picture.
 
Combine this with....
:29pm: Ryan Divish of the Seattle Times tweets that he thinks the Mariners will announce a trade within the next two to three days. Crasnick tweets that his sense is that it’s a right-handed hitter who hasn’t been mentioned in much previous speculation, which would rule out Upton.
 
 
...And maybe the Padres are planning to send Myers to Seattle?
 

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From MLBTR:
 

 
Combine this with....

 
...And maybe the Padres are planning to send Myers to Seattle?
Jason A. Churchill ‏@ProspectInsider 7m7 minutes ago
Strong indications that Seattle is the third team in Rays-Padres Wil Myers trade scenario. Walker may end up in SD. Myers to SEA.

Yup…

https://twitter.com/ProspectInsider/status/545048695616446464

https://twitter.com/ProspectInsider/status/545048695616446464

link to tweet
 

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This makes me think that they might have a deal lined up for one of their starters because the Padres are probably a better team with Wil Myers added to their 25 man roster than Taijuan Walker. The incremental gain in the rotation would be less than they'd get by adding Myers to the outfield. Myers is young enough that you can expect improvement over his 2014. Quentin is flat out cooked.
 

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Guess I'm not sure why the Padres need to be involved at all - a Walker-Myers deal seems reasonable on its own.
 

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This makes me think that they might have a deal lined up for one of their starters because the Padres are probably a better team with Wil Myers added to their 25 man roster than Taijuan Walker. The incremental gain in the rotation would be less than they'd get by adding Myers to the outfield. Myers is young enough that you can expect improvement over his 2014. Quentin is flat out cooked.
Exactly. As I mentioned before Myers makes a lot more sense for the Padres than Upton ever did. They already have good starters under control, do they even have an above average hitter besides Kemp?
 

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If Myers is being shipped out because "their" in rebuild mode, wouldn't THEIR (see the proper usage THERE?) entire team be available?  Cobb and the rest would make sense to deal then also like a Miami firesale.  If Myers is getting shipped it's because the Rays could be getting equal parts in return, IMO
 
edoug said:
It appears Seattle isn't involved. The Mariners and Padres need hitting, actually so does Tampa but their in rebuild mode, there would probably need another team to send a bat to the team that doesn't get Myers.
 
http://blogs.seattletimes.com/mariners/2014/12/16/mariners-trade-rumors-swirling/
 

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Up until the time he got hurt, Myers did suck last year.  I wonder if Tampa sees a little Ben Grieve in him?
 

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Up until the time he got hurt, Myers did suck last year.  I wonder if Tampa sees a little Ben Grieve in him?
Someone on MLB network brought up the point that the Rays may be worried about the wrist injury sapping his power. It makes sense after watching Adrian Gonzalez struggle to recover. I was never a Myers fan from watching him play in Tampa, so I think it would be smart to take in a haul.
 

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Newest rumor is that it's the Nats in the deal, not the M's. 
 
Also, the M's don't seem to be in on Bryd or Craig, so the hitter they're supposedly acquiring soon is still a mystery.