MLB Hot Stove Rumours Thread
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“@Ken_Rosenthal: But yes, the trade does raise questions for #Cubs, considering their surplus of infielders. Would appear to be precursor to other move(s).”
https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/534103017684217856
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Jon Heyman with one of his most transparent "trying to help Boras" columns ever, and that is saying something:
Might Yanks revisit their low-key winter plan and shoot for Scherzer?
http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/writer/jon-heyman/24817866/might-yanks-revisit-their-low-key-winter-plan-and-shoot-for-scherzer
Might Yanks revisit their low-key winter plan and shoot for Scherzer?
http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/writer/jon-heyman/24817866/might-yanks-revisit-their-low-key-winter-plan-and-shoot-for-scherzer
Are we really shocked that the MFY might go after Scherzer? Isn't this the MO every winter? Start off by saying they aren't going to spend big, then blow away a couple of the top FA with offers above and beyond what anyone else was offering. I will not be shocked at all if the MFY re-sign Headley, re-sign Robertson, re-sign Kuroda or McCarthy, and sign Scherzer.
There is no chance the Yankees are actually going after Scherzer on a nine figure deal. Even Jon Heyman, who might as well be a Boras employee, has zero smoke behind that attempted fire. Come on, people. If NY was going to go after a premium SP hard, of course it would be Lester. I posted that piece to laugh at, not to take seriously.
When you've got a straight man like Cashman setting you up over the years ("it's not us"), don't be surprised if the humor gets lost.jon abbey said:
.@SBNationMLB's @blessyouboys is reporting that the #Tigers are likely shopping David Price this winter: http://t.co/K6gkvPmzKi
"We aren't going after any big name free agents this winter. We spent a lot last winter on Ellsbury, McCann, Tanaka, and Beltran. Trust me...all that we are going to do is try to re-sign Headley, re-sign McCarthy, re-sign Kuroda if he doesn't retire or go back to Japan, and re-sign Robertson. Maybe we will make a play for Lester or Scherzer if Kuroda doesn't return, but we ARE NOT going to be a major player in free agency." OK, I may have paraphrased a little, but Brian Cashman doesn't lie. Other than signing 4 or 5 of the biggest names out there, they will not be major players this year.
@Ken_Rosenthal: Sources: #Athletics in serious talks with free agent Billy Butler. First reported: @CoverThoseBases.
I'm puzzled. One of the A's great strengths for two years now has been versatility and platooning. Now they pay top dollar for a guy who can't really play defense, meaning their DH spot is occupied and their lineup versatility takes a hit.Darnell's Son said:
Rob Bradford @bradfo 45s45 seconds ago
Source: Five teams showing legitimate interest in Jonny Gomes
GOMES!
Source: Five teams showing legitimate interest in Jonny Gomes
GOMES!
soxhop411 said:
What is it with these impersonators? Probably the same guys who buy dark Crown Victorias with a spotlight and roam around the highway.
Apologies if this was mentioned somewhere already but I hadn't seen it:
AZ and Miami are looking at Shields.
AZ and Miami are looking at Shields.
Fascinating story to watch will be the Tigers and Scherzer, and if they make that signing, do they flip Price for prospects (or MLB ready talent, say, a CF?). If Price and Hamels are both on the board, Hamels price may go down too. Lots of dominos could fall quickly.
I'm torn. At one side I think 'this was just enough to not get it done' but at the same time, I also see this as a good jumping off point for Lester to start negotiations that end at around 6/132 or so.
I lean more toward the former, unfortunately.
I lean more toward the former, unfortunately.
Tons of conflicting reports as to whether Panda has received an offer from the Sox. Heard earlier he was 90% to signing w the Sox and the a Giants were out. Now hearing Giants are in and Sox haven't formalized an offer. And now the Jays are making an offer. Today has been weird.
Bradford reporting that the Sox are willing to negotiate after initial offer, which was described as complex. Sounds like it's much much more than meets the eye. Here's hoping.
https://twitter.com/bradfo/status/535240290135576576
https://twitter.com/bradfo/status/535240290135576576
He can't post on the main board until he hits a certain amount(50 I think) of posts.E5 Yaz said:
Padres join Sandoval derby
http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/writer/jon-heyman/24824109/red-sox-and-giants-in-panda-fight-with-
a-surprise-the-padres-in-mix
http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/writer/jon-heyman/24824109/red-sox-and-giants-in-panda-fight-with-
a-surprise-the-padres-in-mix
Could the Sox make play for Navarro? He is seeking a trade after the Russell Martin signing. He is a LHH and could play 30-40 games to spell Cristian.
http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/writer/jon-heyman/24823146/dioner-navarro-seeks-trade-following-martin-signing-there-is-interest
http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/writer/jon-heyman/24823146/dioner-navarro-seeks-trade-following-martin-signing-there-is-interest
https://twitter.com/BNightengale/status/535479610134126592Heise3B said:
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I think a Lester/Fister 1-2 makes more than alliterative sense.
It looks like Cincinnati may be willing to move Bruce to help reduce salary. He had a rough year due to injury last year, but is signed through 16 with a team option for 17 at a reasonable contract.
http://www.si.com/nfl/2014/11/21/cincinnati-reds-discussing-jay-bruce-trade
Do the Sox try and buy low on him? Maybe some sort of Cueto/Bruce or Latos/Bruce deal?
http://www.si.com/nfl/2014/11/21/cincinnati-reds-discussing-jay-bruce-trade
Do the Sox try and buy low on him? Maybe some sort of Cueto/Bruce or Latos/Bruce deal?
Yes, the sox will get a cost controlled starting pitcher and Jay bruce for only at least our top 5 prospects and pedroia.
What possible scenario do you think it would take to accomplish that? And who do you think the sox would be willing to let go?
But yea, the sox will totally buy low and get a top of the rotation pitcher and Jay bruce for a bag of balls.
What possible scenario do you think it would take to accomplish that? And who do you think the sox would be willing to let go?
But yea, the sox will totally buy low and get a top of the rotation pitcher and Jay bruce for a bag of balls.
I beg to differ .. It's one year of Cueto and two years of Bruce .. What's moreopes said:
Fan graphs has Cueto's 2014 valued at 23m (4.1 WAR) and Bruce at 6m -1.1 WAR)
Cueto makes 12m and Bruce is around 12m as well .. So Cueto has about 10m in value and Bruce is worth - 6m or thereabouts . Combined they are worth roughly 4m .. add in another -1 WAR year for Bruce and they are a net negative. And you think that would cost 5 prospects AND Pedroia ? The likes of Owens or Betts are worth at least 30m each. Betts is upwards to 50m.
(All figures from memory .. I'm not trying to make exact calculations .. Just pointing out the huge discrepancies in value)
Edit : Cueto makes 10m
1) How is Cueto only worth 10m in value and 2) Do you honestly expect Bruce to have negative value the next two years? Bruce is signed to a reasonable contract, had a .269 BABIP in 2014, and puts up big power numbers when healthy. Some team will trade prospects for him and I don't think it benefits the Reds to package he and Cueto together.BCsMightyJoeYoung said:
I'm talking marginal value here .. A players contract compared to is worth on the field.TOleary25 said:
Cueto's contract is 10m .. His career year netted about 23m in value .. So his "net worth" is around 13m for one year .. Assuming he repeats that career year.
Bruce seems to alternate very good with very bad. He was awful last year .. If the Reds played a replacement level player in RF last year they would have been better off. He's Allan Craig.
So why would you trade prime prospects - who are worth a fortune due to their potential of delivering star level performance for league minimum - for the strong likelihood of 5 or 6 WAR at a maximum?
Bruce was also hurt this year and just never really got going. He is a much better player than what he showed this year.