MLB and MLBPA have a deal
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Or it could mean that players started caving once their paychecks were in danger
Where are you guys finding revised schedules? I'll be in SD on April 15th and 16th and would love to catch a game at Petco.
Lot of interesting stuff in the deal. Per Passan article on ESPN
The minimum salary jumps from $570,500 to $700,000, growing to $780,000
A bonus pool worth $50 million will be distributed among those younger players who have yet to reach salary arbitration. I've not heard of this pool before. Is this a new feature? Anyone know more about this?
12 teams in playoffs
A 45-day window for MLB to implement rules changes -- among them a pitch clock, ban on shifts and larger bases in the 2023 season
The National League adopting the designated hitter
A draft lottery implemented with the intent of discouraging tanking. I hadn't heard that this actually going to make it into the deal. Wow. Can't wait to see how it works.
Draft-pick inducements to discourage service-time manipulation
Limiting the number of times a player can be optioned to the minor leagues in one season
The minimum salary jumps from $570,500 to $700,000, growing to $780,000
A bonus pool worth $50 million will be distributed among those younger players who have yet to reach salary arbitration. I've not heard of this pool before. Is this a new feature? Anyone know more about this?
12 teams in playoffs
A 45-day window for MLB to implement rules changes -- among them a pitch clock, ban on shifts and larger bases in the 2023 season
The National League adopting the designated hitter
A draft lottery implemented with the intent of discouraging tanking. I hadn't heard that this actually going to make it into the deal. Wow. Can't wait to see how it works.
Draft-pick inducements to discourage service-time manipulation
Limiting the number of times a player can be optioned to the minor leagues in one season
Sox seemingly have $24 million before they get to the new CBT threshold of $230 million.
View: https://twitter.com/Feinsand/status/1502026376400015360
View: https://twitter.com/Feinsand/status/1502026376400015360
Seems like a classic short term rank and file wants their paychecks v. long term how do we solve the larger economic issues (e.g., combination of significant revenue sharing and large playoffs tends to decrease ownerhsip incentives to spend; long term decline in player's share, etc.)
I have not yet checked The Athletic, but I hope someone had some stock photos of baseballs breaking chains ready to go...
This looks it is revised. Home against the Braves that weekend.
https://www.mlb.com/padres/schedule/2022-04
Heard a good analysis (I think Dan Symborski or Ben Lindberg on Effectively Wild?) that the best way for the union to start clawing back their share is incrementally, by introducing as many new payment methods as possible. Once they're in the door it becomes possible to increase income on multiple fronts...
Good year to go over if it makes sense. Could be hard to clear $230 million in ‘23/‘24 even if they somehow extend both Devers and Bogaerts.
I think it's more like union leadership disclaiming responsibility for what they know is a bad deal for the players, and the players just wanting to play baseball.
SD vs the defending champs Braves (so odd to type that) would be sweet. Thanks to you both!
honestly it was going to happen at some point - no reason to fight this at all. Within a month you’ll barely notice them any more than any commemorative patch
The parties appeared to be "close" on a number of issues - like 10 million apart - so its difficult for me to see how it was roundly rejected by the executive committee. 10 million isn't changing the long term trajectory of "larger economic issues" so why did they oppose it so universally?
wow the arbitration thing is wild. Who is up for the Sox? Kinda don't want to piss anyone off mid-season...
Not a fan of players with relatively short tenure with club to be player reps, although to be fair, I can't give a rational reason for it.
Right there too, was happy to be so wrong.
This seems like good news as well
Agreed. I think if he wanted to do it he's the right guy. He had to give up alot and potentially if he doesn't do a good job of rep'ing his clubhouse it'll be worse for him when he gets back.
I hate it too, but there have been similar things that I initially despised but have grown to actually like/prefer (e.g., advertisements on the boards in hockey, Monster seats in place of the netting).
So this is what multiple orgasms feels like.
It sounds to me like the owners get more of what they wanted than the players, but I don't really care, I just want to watch baseball.
Universal DH is cool. Been wanting that for a couple decades.
12 teams in the playoffs? So three wild card teams and only the top two division winners get byes? That's gonna be a thing. Not sure I like it.
It sounds to me like the owners get more of what they wanted than the players, but I don't really care, I just want to watch baseball.
Universal DH is cool. Been wanting that for a couple decades.
12 teams in the playoffs? So three wild card teams and only the top two division winners get byes? That's gonna be a thing. Not sure I like it.
That intuitively makes sense - what theyve been doing in the past hasnt worked. So introduce somethign new... like the pre-arb bonus pool and try to build off of it over multiple agreements.
I dont think the executive committee was ever going to stop a deal that its rank and file wanted. They were negotiating a deal that the broader union would accept - doesnt mean that they have to objectively like it. In that vein, the vote is really symbolic.
Thanks! (for this and for the rep common sense answer that is perfectly rational)
I hope they lock up Devers longterm before arb. Any chance of that?
Huzzah! Is the late schedule still the same? Was hoping to attend the September 22-24 home series.