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It’s good to be a QB. No idea what Jerry is doing with Dak. There are a million recent comps now.
I think he averages $55m, just like Trevor and Burrow, so I guess Rapsheet means "tied for the highest average annual salary," unless I'm missing something.
I think he thinks Lance can start next season.
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If Cap keeps going up... the QB raw number will keep going up.... the real question is when the percentage of the cap starts getting outsized than it becomes interesting...
A 100% yes, if the NFL doesn't lose the Sunday Ticket lawsuit appeal. A loss there could limit the cap for a couple of years.
It is clear sports are the one thing networks and streamers can buy that gets eyes on ads. And they *are* buying. And they *are* showing a metric fuckton of ads. And the NFL is the king of it and only getting bigger due to its perfect schedule (kids across the country can actually watch most of the most important games of the season) and ownership of one day a week during their season.
I suspect he is getting franchised. Could then be traded, could just force him to play one more year and then let him go.
He turns 31 on Monday so perhaps the thought is they don't want to commit long term.
Is there any easily accessible data on what the average cap pct hit of QBs has been over time? I know the cap numbers exist somewhere but I don’t want to have to divide by each teams specific cap number per year.
I'm too lazy to run the full numbers but OTC has historical QB contracts as a percentage of the cap at signing in one table.
https://overthecap.com/contract-history/quarterback
13 of the biggest 15 QB contracts (ie above 20% of the cap) are current, so even adjusting for the cap rising significantly in recent years there's been a significant shift in resources going to that position. All the remaining 5 of the top 20 are since 2020 too.
A decade ago, the highest contract would've been Brett Favre in 1997 (19% of cap) and 10th would've been Matt Ryan (16.9%). Now Joe Burrow (24.5%) and Deshaun Watson (22.1%) hold those marks. So it's maybe around a 25-30% increase in cap hits going to top QBs (and more to good-but-not-great QBs) over the past few years.
thanks that’s interesting. i’m surprised it hasn’t shifted more actually given how important passing is now compared to the past
Did you watch the "one full season" they're condescendingly referring to? We should be so lucky to have Maye worth as much and signing for so little four years from now.
Considering how little running backs make these days I would bet a lot of that gain has been at their expense. Running backs used to be a bigger piece of the pie I bet, but today they treat them as fungible assets they can just plug and play as needed barring one or two standouts (and even those guys seem to struggle to get paid).
Sam Williams, Cowboys DE suffered serious knee injury yesterday.
If they call to ask about Judon would Pats consider a trade e.g., for draft pick(s)?
If they call to ask about Judon would Pats consider a trade e.g., for draft pick(s)?
Aint that a fact. Christian McCaffrey is just about the most important non QB player in the NFL. And he makes a third of what Jared Goff makes.
For sure. I think Judon will be elsewhere this year and it's a matter of time and seeing what offers shake out throughout camp.
Can't Hawk Eye extend to there as well?
Shocked it took this long, but also very interested to see how it gets implemented.
Only saw the last two KOs, but my first impression is that teams really need to use two FBs as returners because it seems like there’s always going to be at least one guy on the kicking team who will breach the line easily
I did. In fact, I took the money line on them to upset Dallas in the playoffs. Still seems like an overpay to me, but the cap keeps going up and QBs keep getting huge pay increases, so what do I know.
Aiyuk still doesn't have any levarge so I'm not sure why San Francisco would suddenly be interested in trading him. He can't sit the entire year out. He asked for a trade but the issue doesn't seem like he's unhappy with being in San Francisco it's just he wants his money, doesn't care much who is paying him. What levers can he pull? Go full Judon on the sidelines each day? From the 9ers standpoint, I don't see what has changed in the last few weeks that would suddenly motivate them to move Aiyuk. The only real reason is to resolve the situation. If they decide they aren't going to pay him, I still think they're better off telling him so and see you in week 6 (or whatever it is before the year tolls on his contract) and playing the year out.
I agree. Given the age/performance curve and contract situations for their core players, this season represents their best shot at a title before some of their core players age out or the roster gets too expensive. I don’t see a world where all of Deebo, Kittle and Aiyuk are on the roster next season, and anyone who replaces one of them in 2025 is almost certainly not going to be more productive.
SF needs to stay the course with this contract standoff - Aiyuk is good enough to make a difference for them this year. After the season you can look to extend him, franchise and trade, or let him walk and likely collect a third round comp pick in 2026.
SF needs to stay the course with this contract standoff - Aiyuk is good enough to make a difference for them this year. After the season you can look to extend him, franchise and trade, or let him walk and likely collect a third round comp pick in 2026.
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Why would the 49ers want Bourne? Soon to be 30 year old #3 WR coming off a torn ACL with a brand new (sort of inexplicable) 3 year contract?
If you’re the 49ers and trying to replace Aiyuk in a season where you’re trying to win a Lombardi with a potentially rapidly closing window, Bourne isn’t really appealing. He likely won’t be available for part of the season and guys often don’t look right their first year back from ACL injuries (and he’s not exactly a star as it is so he might look especially pedestrian). Moving forward, committing any sort of meaningful salary to a #3 quality WR seems counterproductive for the 49ers given their need to keep their core mostly intact.
If I were the 49ers, I’d be looking for a young cheap roster player (Douglas and Sow are really the only 2 who kind of fit) or, more realistically, additional picks. Although I still don’t think it makes sense to trade him
The 49ers with Aiyuk and Bengals with Higgins are in the same kind of spot. They have a clear path to being a Super Bowl contender this year with those guys. If the season falls apart due to bad luck/injury etc, trade them at the deadline. Otherwise, they’re a lot more valuable than a 2nd round pick is likely going to ever be.
There’s this idea that it’s better to trade players than “lose them for nothing” but they’d likely net a comp pick and you get a full year of their prime while you’re contending. This isn’t a rebuilding team where the guy is being wasted.
Unless they can get a 1st rounder from a bottom 5 type team (Pats, Denver, Carolina), trading a star WR just isn’t worth it.
Several reports said the chances of Aiyuk being traded have gone up. If I were running the 49ers I’d keep him and figure it out after the season too, but it’s increasingly likely that’s not what’s going to happen. I don’t think anyone is offering a projected top 5 pick because outside of QB teams don’t do that. If the Pats can get him for less than a 1st I’d be thrilled.
Feels like when he’s traded, not if. NFLN also reported multiple teams(likely Pats, Browns, Steelers) were able to contact Aiyuk’s agent directly to discuss contract terms.
Great insight from Matt Maiocco here.
View: https://twitter.com/nbcspatriots/status/1820602891360518344?s=46&t=IVL2VrlFgLlpc3mjGGto8Q
Great insight from Matt Maiocco here.
View: https://twitter.com/nbcspatriots/status/1820602891360518344?s=46&t=IVL2VrlFgLlpc3mjGGto8Q
“The 49ers have negotiated the frameworks of trades that would send wide receiver Brandon Aiyuk to the Cleveland Browns and the New England Patriots, a league source told NBC Sports Bay Area on Monday night.
Now, it is up to Aiyuk to determine if he will accept the contract terms from either of those franchises, the source said.
The 49ers gave permission to Aiyuk to negotiate potential contracts with the Browns, Patriots, Washington Commanders and Pittsburgh Steelers, the source
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View: https://twitter.com/_andrewcallahan/status/1820651586756006097?s=46&t=IVL2VrlFgLlpc3mjGGto8Q
Now, it is up to Aiyuk to determine if he will accept the contract terms from either of those franchises, the source said.
The 49ers gave permission to Aiyuk to negotiate potential contracts with the Browns, Patriots, Washington Commanders and Pittsburgh Steelers, the source
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View: https://twitter.com/_andrewcallahan/status/1820651586756006097?s=46&t=IVL2VrlFgLlpc3mjGGto8Q