Miller Signs With The Yankees

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That's disappointing, I was a big Andrew Miller fan. Was resigned to him signing elsewhere but was hoping it'd be in LA so I could catch him now and then.
 
Blegh. I do wish him luck. For the last time. Today.
 

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36/4 really isn't that bad considering where it sounded like his market was going. I hope he's the best reliever on a last place team. Wonder where the rumored other offers came from...
 

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Rudy Pemberton said:
Funny how that happens, guys always sign with the Yankees despite better offers elsewhere.

Good luck to the Yankees on this one, think this will be a mistake, although I know many disagree.
well, was hoping that if they got him they'd have to pay him $40MM plus.  based on some of the predictions/discussion, the deal is better for them than expected.  But it's still a lot of years and $ for a relief pitcher.  a great one the last few years of course, but still not sure I'd love this deal if the Red Sox had the chance to make it 
 

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Rudy Pemberton said:
Funny how that happens, guys always sign with the Yankees despite better offers elsewhere.

Good luck to the Yankees on this one, think this will be a mistake, although I know many disagree.
 
I'm one of them. I'd have been quite happy with the Red Sox giving him that contract. Sure, he might not be worth it in the last year, maybe even the last two, but he has a great chance to be worth quite a bit more in the next two years. It's Fangraphs dollar values, so take it with a grain of salt, but he was worth nearly 13 million last year. His injury in 2013 was of the freak nature, and he came back and proved it wasn't going to have a lasting negative effect on him. I'm going to be really sad to watch him lace em up for the ole Evil Empire.
 

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I still wouldn't be surprised with Robertson coming back also and NY trying to emulate the KC bullpen model. Nice signing, though, I'm a fan. 
 

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Rudy Pemberton said:
Funny how that happens, guys always sign with the Yankees despite better offers elsewhere.

Good luck to the Yankees on this one, think this will be a mistake, although I know many disagree.

Over 40% of the value he's generated in his career came last year (despite it accounting for only 12% of his career IP). Arthur Rhodes is a pretty good comp; and if he follows that career path he'll be worth it. I'm skeptical, and if he's just replacing Robertson it's difficult to see how much it helps the MFY...although Betances - Miller - Warren has the potential to be a pretty fantastic back of the pen.
I think it's plausible he had a better offer but without closing potential, or for a rebuilding team. But then I recall the horseshit they trotted out about Teixeira's wife liking the shopping better or something. So yeah.
 
I think it's a terrific sign for them. $9m is nothing for them, and it's not Papelbon money to the extent that he could become untradeable over the course of the contract. Handedness, stadium configuration, mix with Warren and Betances... it all makes good sense for them. So yeah, good luck Andrew... with finding housing. THat's all.
 

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I think this is a good signing for the yankees.  He's well suited to their park.  The money isn't outrageous and part of being a big money team is being able to pay money for a greater degree of certainty.  Is he an absolutely sure thing?  No.  Almost no reliever is and I suppose his control issues could return but I tend to doubt it. 
 
The casual way that some in the main board thread were talking like indignant potentates that Miller would have the temerity to ask for big money followed by flippant assertions that we'll just build a killer bullpen from whatever pitchers we find under the seat cushions is nuts.  Even teams that had done that like the early 2000's Angels don't show the ability to keep on doing that. 
 
Miller is excellent and the yankees were smart to get him.
 

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Rudy Pemberton said:
Funny how that happens, guys always sign with the Yankees despite better offers elsewhere.
 
I thought the Yankees MO was to blow everyone out of the water?
 

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I think 4x9 seems like a good deal - the volume of rumors on Miller had me thinking he'd get something like 4x11 or 3x12. I'd not have squawked a bit if the Sox paid him what the mfy did - at the same time 4yrs for a reliever does cause some cognitive dissonance so I'm not terribly disappointed the Sox didn't go there either.  But mostly this is annoying because he was fun to watch and I hate it when guys I like go to the mfy.
 

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StuckOnYouk said:
Well Houston was rumored as in on it so I can see why he'd choose NY
 
You think Houston would offer him more money than the Yankees?
 
Seems like a fair deal to me, good signing for the Yankees.
 

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maybe they were playing him off robertson. 
 
I thought I heard as of yesterday the Astros were in on both guys. Also thought I read they think Robertson is stringing Houston along so maybe they figured Miller could be another option as closer for them.
 
Who knows, maybe we'll find out. Houston may be having trouble luring guys who are getting equal offers from other winning organizations.
 

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blech!  I doubt Robertson will be back... Yankees want the pick when he signs elsewhere.  I think this is just the first step though- Lester or Scherzer will be next.
 

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I think this heightens the possibility that Robertson will be back. Signing Miller before Robertson gives them leverage on him. His choices are to take the money in Houston or be part of a championship-level bullpen in NY. Not a hard choice for him. On Cashman's side, now that Miller is in the fold why not finish the deal and have the 3-headed monster at the back end?
 

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Trotsky said:
 I think this is just the first step though- Lester or Scherzer will be next.
 
I really don't think they have the money in the budget for those guys, I would guess that Brandon McCarthy would be their primary goal now, but his market might go past where they're comfortable with also. 
 

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jon abbey said:
I still wouldn't be surprised with Robertson coming back also and NY trying to emulate the KC bullpen model. Nice signing, though, I'm a fan. 
 
Stole the words right out of my mouth. I realize the volatility of relievers and the fact that it's a four year deal, but $9 million a year seems relatively reasonable for someone as effective as Miller.
 

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Darnell's Son said:
Correct, he was traded midseason.
 
If Robertson signs elsewhere they get the compensatory. If they go after Scherzer and lose their first, at least they get one at the back end of the first, correct? If that's the case, not a bad move by Cashman.
 

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Glad it wasn't a ridiculous, market setting contract at least.  I was expecting 11 per.
Not looking forward to one run games from the 7th on.
 

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So Miller is one of those rare dominant RP's who doesn't care if he closes. This was his one chance, especially if Robertson comes back. 
 

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In no universe is 4x9 a bad deal for the Yanks ex ante. Orioles fans hereabouts very disappointed in this development.
 

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https://twitter.com/JonHeymanCBS/status/541011001123299328
 

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Happy for the guy and hope he does well except against us.  Hope he gets blown up. It's always hard to see the guys jump over to the Dark Side.
 

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This is much less than I expected him to sign for. Only question is if he can sustain his last years numbers and keep the walks down, instead of at 4.5 BB/9 like he was in 2012-2013.  Now if they sign D-Rob, that will be some pen, but thats unlikely
 

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Sampo Gida said:
This is much less than I expected him to sign for. Only question is if he can sustain his last years numbers and keep the walks down, instead of at 4.5 BB/9 like he was in 2012-2013.  Now if they sign D-Rob, that will be some pen, but thats unlikely
 
They'd be much better served investing in some position players (3B) and/or starting pitching. 
 
Bullpen shouldn't be a concern now.
 

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amarshal2 said:
What is the biggest contract a non closer has ever signed?
 
Before this one, either Jeremy Affeldt w/SF at 3/18 (neither a closer before or after) or Rafael Soriano w/NY at 3/35 (a closer before, a set-up man after) depending on how you read the question. Also that Soriano deal ended up being 2/20 because he opted out of the last year at $15M. 
 

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I can't believe that some people are getting so bent out of shape over a setup guy.  He may manage to have four good years in NY, but he has been worth at least a win twice in his career- once in 2008 when he was a starter, and last year.  I think that a little perspective is in order.