Miami Heat: Pat Riley's Grease Fire
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Wade is going to sign a 4 year deal worth a lot of money. I think he will be alrightCellar-Door said:
swingin val said:
Maybe the return to Cleveland was all part of James" original "pact" with Wade to come to Miami?
Future Sox Doc said:
Agreed. I can feel my sports-hate for him evaporating. Dammit. Good luck, Cleveland!
Riley looking at Granger and McBob and thinking 'what am I gonna do with 40 subscriptions to Vibe magazine?'
RedOctober3829 said:
Gunga Dinhorst
I was just watched The Herd on DVR. During the third hour Windhorst was on with Colin and said that he had been going back-and-forth all week re: the LeBron situation. He finished by stating that he was 50-75% sure that James was going to stay in Miami on a short deal. He also said that he (Windhorst) had had a falling out with Dan Gilbert (in addition to obviously being out of the loop with LeBron's camp re: Decision II.) Windhorst had literally just left the set when the news broke while Cowherd was interviewing Mike Dunleavy.
@WojYahooNBA: Miami is fighting to keep Chris Bosh, league sources tell Yahoo Sports. He will decide between Heat and Rockets today.
Wade too
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Miami is pushing to complete a deal to keep Dwyane Wade now, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.
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Miami is pushing to complete a deal to keep Dwyane Wade now, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.
If they can figure out a way to get Melo that would be as good as ending as any Heat fan could hope for on a day they lost LeBron.
CaptainLaddie said:
I don't think they can do Melo without reneging on McRoberts. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but with James signing with Heat, doesn't that mean that Heat no longer have MLE to offer McRoberts?
axx said:
FWIW, Le Batard said on his radio show that Bosh and his wife really enjoy living in Miami. If so, Bosh re-signed for more reasons than just the dollars.
Who the hell would turn down an extra guaranteed 30 million to chase a championship in Houston, when you can at least still be competitive in Miami since you're still in the East?
I'm tired of this narrative that these guys should be giving up all these crazy sums of money at the chance at a title.
I'm tired of this narrative that these guys should be giving up all these crazy sums of money at the chance at a title.
The schadenfruede is delicious. Enjoy watching Wade limp around trying to catch Wall so he can throw an elbow in his nuts and then sit for three games.
Also, the letter, no matter how calculated, is amazing. Good for Cleveland! I really hope they win one. Great day!
Also, the letter, no matter how calculated, is amazing. Good for Cleveland! I really hope they win one. Great day!
wade boggs chicken dinner said:
Houston wouldn't be competing for championships either with Bosh on their roster.
They're in the conversation however. I agree they're not better than those teams, but they're not worse other than the Spurs however.
Why wouldn't Melo consider Miami now? Simmons was on Le Batard and he thought he might given the better roster than the Knicks have as well as the tax advantage in Florida. There are also reports that Wade will be very flexible with the Heat in order to make something happen. I don't think Melo to South Beach is so crazy.
Blacken said:
Agreed. But that isn't happening now and the Rockets have more questions than answers.
Blacken said:
Bosh has two championship rings already. I don't think he gives two shits about chasing more rings while having to play 3rd banana AGAIN behind Howard and Harden.
There are also $30M reasons why Bosh is incentivized to stay in Miami and with Wade declining, he has the chance to be the face of the franchise. Also, the Eastern Conference sucks ass so he's guaranteed to make the playoffs every year regardless of whether or not LBJ is on his team.
BigSoxFan said:
I am allowed to respond to different posts on different subjects correct?
If you want to go back to my original post, then I still believe that OKC, SA and LAC would be favored over a HOU team with Bosh and friends.
Harden's offensive stats mask his defensive deficiencies and he couldn't lead his team to a ring despite playing with KD, Westbrook and Ibaka. Don't even get me started on Howard who can't play in close games because he can't hit FTs to save his life and can't score in the paint if it's not a dunk. The NBA isn't a video game where the best players automatically win you a championship (see this years Finals as an example).
Melo going to Miami seems crazy.
Melo stands to lose A LOT and gain very little by signing within them. If he goes down there, every thing he does will be put under a microscope, and when they inevitably fall short, the media will lambaste him for not being 'Lebron'. He's better off going to Chicago, or resigning in NY and trusting in Phil. Personally, if Melo doesn't care about that 5th year, which is a huge stretch, Chicago is the obvious destination.
They're a couple players away from being a true contender. Not big pieces, but a couple role players in addition to Melo. Take advantage of whatever growing pains the Cavs might have in the next year or two, and hope for the best. NY won't be competitive for a while, and considering the fact that they will be competing with the Lakers for the same prime free agents in the next couple years, their is absolutely no guarantee Phil will be able to pull enough bull shit out of his ass to convince Love/Durant/Westbrook etc. to head east.
Melo stands to lose A LOT and gain very little by signing within them. If he goes down there, every thing he does will be put under a microscope, and when they inevitably fall short, the media will lambaste him for not being 'Lebron'. He's better off going to Chicago, or resigning in NY and trusting in Phil. Personally, if Melo doesn't care about that 5th year, which is a huge stretch, Chicago is the obvious destination.
They're a couple players away from being a true contender. Not big pieces, but a couple role players in addition to Melo. Take advantage of whatever growing pains the Cavs might have in the next year or two, and hope for the best. NY won't be competitive for a while, and considering the fact that they will be competing with the Lakers for the same prime free agents in the next couple years, their is absolutely no guarantee Phil will be able to pull enough bull shit out of his ass to convince Love/Durant/Westbrook etc. to head east.
Man I hate Hardens game but Howard, Bosh, Parsons and Harden would be my title pick (I love McHale but they need a better coach).
San Antonio crushed Miami but it is causing people to overrate them going forward. They didn't exactly waltz through the playoffs
San Antonio crushed Miami but it is causing people to overrate them going forward. They didn't exactly waltz through the playoffs
luckiestman said:
Yeah, I would have loved that Rockets team, and while one can disagree on how much of a contender they would have been, the idea that they wouldn't have been one is silly.
I just heard Brian Windhorst (for whom I feel super sorry -- he's really not bad even if he got scooped as hell) mention the possibility of the Rockets using the money on Bledsoe. It sounds weird on the surface, but I love Bledsoe's game and he's a defensive demon capable of guarding taller 2 guards. I'm not sure how much one can justify paying a 3rd guard/6th man....but I'd sure rather spend that money on Bledsoe than on Deng or Aziza. And if the Rockets don't sign someone in the 48 hours, then might they not figure that they also need not bother on Parsons?
Probably lame to panic and sign Bledsoe, but he might present some intriguing small ball match-up possibilities, too. Dunno...anyway, rough day for Morey. Must have gone from thinking he had a championship contender to...."shit, am I really going to overpay for Parsons and still be no better than last year?" ....in the course of a few hours.
Morey probably takes a what-the-heck run at Melo now doesn't he? It's kind of an odd basketball fit, but I'd at least call and see.
No, I think the idea was to make sure they always have at least two of Bledsoe/Dragic/Thomas available:
- Suns record with Dragic and Bledsoe both healthy and starting: 23-11
- Suns record with one of them out of the lineup due to injury: 25-23
Thank you! Who turns down more money while remaining where they are happy? Most wouldn't turn down more money anyway.Three10toLeft said:
I'd imagine Phoenix with Bledsoe is similar to Hayward in Utah where the CBA max makes it impossible to pry him away. There is still the Dragic trade talk out there too.....I'm guessing the Suns know Bledsoe isn't going anywhere.BigSoxFan said:
I'm really interested in seeing how Spoelstra deals with all of the changes from this off season. Getting Bosh back certainly helps his cause, but I feel like we'll know more about his coaching abilities than we have the past four seasons.