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Well, I think a lot more managers would be interested in the job if they get Scherzer.
Agreed, I just don't know who's out there. Seems as though they'd need someone with some standing in the game.
They lost Syndergaard (not that he had an impact on their 2021) and probably Stroman, they are still very thin in the rotation after their two behemoths at the top.
That's one of those cases where the opt out isn't to make more money, but to get the fuck away from the Mets.
I was going to throw his name out there. Did he and Eppler overlap with LAA? I suppose LaRussa's successful year bodes well for a Scioscia, as does his recent stint as the US team manager.
Scioscia is only 63, which makes his age peers Mattingly (60), Francona (62), Black (64), and Snitker (65) more so than LaRussa (76).
Eppler was the last GM Scioscia worked with in Anaheim, so there's definitely familiarity.
Scherzer is very active in the MLBPA. Maximizing his payday is about more to him than just fattening his bank account and/or feeling respected. I suspect he’s more clear-eyed than most players about what he’s giving up by signing with the highest bidder.
And they've got an opportunity to capture front-running hearts and minds in NY, at least in the near term, as the Yankees seem content to sit things out, argue for a lower luxury tax threshold, etc...
No doubt that battle for the back page is important to Cohen. Winning a championship is the ultimate goal, but I'm sure winning the city of New York is very important.
This is a lot of money for an older SP, but Scherzer has been arguably the most durable and effective SP in MLB the last decade — he is the guy to take this risk with.
It feels like the Mets roster still needs some upgrades overall, but a healthy Degrom (big IF) and Scherzer leading the rotation is pretty legit.
It feels like the Mets roster still needs some upgrades overall, but a healthy Degrom (big IF) and Scherzer leading the rotation is pretty legit.
Particularly when we consider it's still November.
And I'd wager that the looming CBA deal is a factor for teams like the Yankees and Red Sox and Dodgers who are close to or already over the luxury tax. Where the new CBA comes down on those caps affects them more than it does for a team like the Rangers who have $100M of wiggle room. The Mets, on the other hand, don't seem to care as they've already blown past all the 2021 caps.
I look at the Mets and see them as being similar to the Sox in their needs. Perhaps another arm in the rotation, some bullpen depth, fourth OF and utility guy.
The MFY still have a decent talent pool from which to deal from as well don't they?
At least this time the Twins didn't trade their CF for the Yankees shitty backup catcher. Progress.
Yes, but Cashman has typically been opposed to dealing his top prospects, which I hope will change. There are several good short stop prospects, Jasson, a few good pitchers. We don't have anything in the 1b or catcher pipeline. I would assume that trading for or signing a 1b/C is the most likely scenario. Though you can see this being discussed in the Yankees offseason thread. At this point, I don't think any of us really know what direction they will go.
Ahh, yes on familiarity (doesn't mean it was *good* familiarity, of course). I was thinking more about "time away from MLB" than actual age, but I was wrong there, too, as even that's only 3 years (I thought it was much longer), while LaRussa was ten. So yeah, he's in the mix. It would at least be deemed a very "credible" move by the baseball congnoscenti, something which the Mets could use. And Eppler might even be able to ask Scioscia privately to avoid a public rejection.
Well, you just ruined my week. I'm only 3 years younger than Mike Scioscia?
Same age as Mattingly I could deal with, but I'd have sworn Scioscia was 67+.
Awwww ... mannnnnn.
(That was probably the best line reading in the entire episode.)
Olney says the Mets have requested permission to speak to Rays' bench coach Matt Quatraro about their managerial opening.
View: https://twitter.com/Buster_ESPN/status/1467890417786048512
Are we in for another string of denied permission and declined interview invitations, or will this process go a little smoother for the Mets?
View: https://twitter.com/Buster_ESPN/status/1467890417786048512
Are we in for another string of denied permission and declined interview invitations, or will this process go a little smoother for the Mets?
I am rooting so hard for this to happen.
View: https://twitter.com/mikemayer22/status/1468413274865733635?s=21
View: https://twitter.com/mikemayer22/status/1468413274865733635?s=21
Of all the managerial retreads out there, I like Showalter the best. I think the Mets could do worse and probably will.
Mets don’t pass (on) the Buck:
View: https://twitter.com/stevenacohen2/status/1472276561508417541?s=21
View: https://twitter.com/stevenacohen2/status/1472276561508417541?s=21
Not that this proves anything either way, but Showalter’s teams have won 90 games just 3 times in his 20 years of managing.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/managers/showabu99.shtml
https://www.baseball-reference.com/managers/showabu99.shtml
Could be a disaster but seems like a decent hire for a team expected to win right away. True that he’s only won 90 three times, but two seasons with 89 and another with 88. Although given the expectations, not sure an 88 win would be seen as a success. Generally playing in tough divisions, experience with NY market.
Guess it all depends on how Buck approaches the job. If he’s humble and realizes this is probably his last gig, maybe it works. If he takes the Bobby Valentine approach, good luck.
Mets will certainty be interesting! Can’t imagine working for Cohen will be easy.
Guess it all depends on how Buck approaches the job. If he’s humble and realizes this is probably his last gig, maybe it works. If he takes the Bobby Valentine approach, good luck.
Mets will certainty be interesting! Can’t imagine working for Cohen will be easy.
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And his teams consistently show massive improvement in his second full season at the helm (ignoring his mid-year hire in Baltimore). So seems like the most efficient way to employ him is for two years then fire him. Fits the Scherzer window perfectly.
I expected the Mets to do much worse.
Edit: To add some substance, I think Buck is the kind of experienced professional that won't get too high or low in NYC, and despite his age and longevity in the game, can probably still relate well enough to young players. His working relationship with Adam Jones comes to mind.
I don't think he'll be the Joe Torre of NY Mets, but if they fall apart, I doubt it will be because of him. Seems like a steady, known quality, and maybe that is a bit underrated for an organization often in turmoil.
2nd edit: But what I really want to know is if Abbey had to choose one, who does he take: Buck or Boone?
Edit: To add some substance, I think Buck is the kind of experienced professional that won't get too high or low in NYC, and despite his age and longevity in the game, can probably still relate well enough to young players. His working relationship with Adam Jones comes to mind.
I don't think he'll be the Joe Torre of NY Mets, but if they fall apart, I doubt it will be because of him. Seems like a steady, known quality, and maybe that is a bit underrated for an organization often in turmoil.
2nd edit: But what I really want to know is if Abbey had to choose one, who does he take: Buck or Boone?
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Taken seriously by who exactly? Because the other GMs have to be laughing that they interviewed the bench coaches for the Astros and Rays and still hired 65 year old Buck.
Steve Cohen doesn't care about them. He cares what the establishment baseball-knowers in the media say.
"Bringing in a solid baseball man" is Viagra for the cohort that Cohen cares about.