Marcus Smart: 4 year, $77 million extension

Ale Xander

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Hopefully this means Dennis is gone after a year and PP develops enough to start at G with Smart in 22-23. Or better yet, we get Beal or another superstar.
 

scottyno

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Hopefully this means Dennis is gone after a year and PP develops enough to start at G with Smart in 22-23. Or better yet, we get Beal or another superstar.
Schroder was always going to be gone for a year no matter what because they wouldn't have been able to offer him a large enough raise for him to want to stick around if he's any good, and if he's bad then the Cs wouldn't want him to stick around.
 

SteveF

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They could still trade him before the start of the season. Since the new deal starts in 22-23 presumably that trade kicker also only applies to trades after 21-22?
 

Eddie Jurak

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Excellent! Happy to have him back at that price, and it makes dealing for a star (should that come to pass) easier.
 

Senator Donut

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Someone has to want him in a trade for a 3rd star. He is not nearly valued as high around the league as Celtics fans want to think he is.
That’s a very strong declarative statement about Smart’s trade value on a contract he agreed to literally 15 minutes ago. I think the 29 GMs will wait until the ink dries before divining if he is a positive or negative asset going forward.
 

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Don’t mind the move in a vacuum but I was admittedly ready to move on from Smarf.
 

JM3

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That’s a very strong declarative statement about Smart’s trade value on a contract he agreed to literally 15 minutes ago. I think the 29 GMs will wait until the ink dries before divining if he is a positive or negative asset going forward.
I mean if GMs don't already know what they consider to be the proper value for every player in the league at any given time, they're really not doing their job.

I don't have a strong opinion of this contract. It's ~fine.
 

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Doesn’t his increased salary make them more likely to be in the running for a third star?
No, because his salary doesn’t change this season. However, Smart never made a lot of sense in a package for a star. Horford is the logical player to trade in any move for a star and his salary easily stacks with other guys on the roster to cover any matching needs if an opportunity arises.
 

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I think the value is about right, did you see some of the deals handed out this year? I think it’s easy to forget that he’s still only 27, I think his contract would be seen as valuable in a deal.
 

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They could still trade him before the start of the season. Since the new deal starts in 22-23 presumably that trade kicker also only applies to trades after 21-22?
Not that they would've wanted to anyway, but Smart now can't be traded for six months. I don't believe they've announced this years trade deadline date, but if it's around the same time as 2020, Smart can't be traded in season this year either.
 

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Well, no more "Sign Brad Beal into cap space" plan for next season.

If you're going to commit this money to him don't you approach the rest of the offseason completely differently? You have no cap room next year now, so you can commit more than one year to someone without messing anything up.

Aside from that, this is an all right move. Probably right around his worth, so it isn't a negative value contract.
 

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One of my favorite celtics players ever, so I love

I’ll post this here too, and these stats are just a tool. But advanced/impact stats love Smart, his last two season below.
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benhogan

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Like it and was asking for it a few days ago. Make Marcus the Captain

Contract year Marcus would have been a launchfest. MORE POINTZ!!!. Now that's out of the way and he can play the right way
 

bigq

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As my 14 y/o daughter said when I told the news: “Let’s go.”

In PBS we trust.
Ha! My 13 year old daughter has a poster of Smart in her bedroom and has a similar sentiment. Not that it means anything but I'm good with it as well.
 

benhogan

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Well, no more "Sign Brad Beal into cap space" plan for next season.

If you're going to commit this money to him don't you approach the rest of the offseason completely differently? You have no cap room next year now, so you can commit more than one year to someone without messing anything up.

Aside from that, this is an all right move. Probably right around his worth, so it isn't a negative value contract.
Isn't Beal always going to be a trade for matching contracts or S&T?

They would have had to renounce the entire roster ex JAYS/Pritchard/Grant to sign another MAX
 

Eddie Jurak

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Well, no more "Sign Brad Beal into cap space" plan for next season.

If you're going to commit this money to him don't you approach the rest of the offseason completely differently? You have no cap room next year now, so you can commit more than one year to someone without messing anything up.

Aside from that, this is an all right move. Probably right around his worth, so it isn't a negative value contract.
Good bye "sign Beal into cap space". Hello "sign and trade for Beal."

It remains true that the only way we ever even think about Beal is if he demands to come here. And if he does, it can still happen.
 

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I think judging Smart off of last year's erratic play is somewhat misleading. IMO in the vacuum of suck that was last year Smart put a lot of pressure on himself to fill the vacuum and he couldn't do it. But he tried. And I appreciate players that try and leave it all on the floor. That's Marcus. I hope his talents are re-directed and focused on a team with better balance and better defined roles.
 

Jed Zeppelin

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This doesn’t affect the Beal situation at all, and at under $20 mil per this is reasonable and he’s plenty moveable.
 

HomeRunBaker

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I don’t like this and I hope this doesn’t take them out of the running for a 3rd star.
It actually increases his value imo as he’d be an expiring contract to the Wizards at the deadline with no certainty, actually an unlikelihood, that he’d remain.
 

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I love rooting for Marcus Smart, and I think on a championship caliber team he will play a pivotal role and go down in Boston Celtics lore as a beloved player.

If we have to trade him for Beal though, I am fine with that too.
 

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Don’t mind the move in a vacuum but I was admittedly ready to move on from Smarf.
This doesn’t affect the Beal situation at all, and at under $20 mil per this is reasonable and he’s plenty moveable.
My thoughts exactly. His offense is always going to be what it is, but I'm hoping he can get back to being one of the best defensive 2s in the league.
 

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Well, no more "Sign Brad Beal into cap space" plan for next season.

If you're going to commit this money to him don't you approach the rest of the offseason completely differently? You have no cap room next year now, so you can commit more than one year to someone without messing anything up.

Aside from that, this is an all right move. Probably right around his worth, so it isn't a negative value contract.
They were never signing Beal into cap space, they might have made noise about it, but it never made sense because Beal, Tatum Brown and 12 minimums was always a dogshit roster solution.

I don't think they were not committing to multiple years, they weren't committing to multiple years for players they didn't see as good value. They would have signed Fournier at the right price. I bet they would have signed certain players for multiple years if able. It was more about not having any negative assets next year if they could help it.
 

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This doesn’t affect the Beal situation at all, and at under $20 mil per this is reasonable and he’s plenty moveable.
Agreed. I think it is more likely that Marcus will outperform his contract than underperform.

I also think you can win a championship with Marcus on your roster. Let's hope that's true.
 

Cellar-Door

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Smith has trended really negative this offseason. Not sure why.
I don;t think he's negative. He's correctly pointing out that star trades aren't THAT common, and that making yourself flexible enough to make them is good, planning on making one isn't, because too many things are beyond your control. Also, a lot of it is that he responds on twitter, and most of his timeline is toxic waste spewed by barely literal mouthbreathers.