Yes.Zero chance he re-signs in LA after this year, right? With Seager at SS and Turner at 3B?
“Your Honor, with the Court’s permission, I will mark this Post as Exhibit A. May I approach the bench?”I'm happy, means the Yankees won't blow prospects for someone they can get in 3 months.
Diaz is a pretty good prize for 3 months of someone who you have no shot at resigning in this market, which is a historical bad seller market.The Sox equivalent for that deal in terms of value, would have been something like Chavis had he not had the PED thing, Shawaryn and a meh low level middle infielder. They didn't have a good enough outfield prospect. In other words, probably not something they could have come up with.
The Dodgers didn't get a blue chipper but Diaz (in the 80's for top 100) has been really solid in AA and is young for the level. He is just a corner outfielder though.
Hmmm ... Manny's career ended in PED suspensions, the baseball card market has bottomed out and Toys R Us is defunct
And maybe not even thenThe final deal here hasn't been announced yet, and with the Orioles involved, I'll believe it is definite once it actually is definite.
IDK. If you don't like the medicals on the lottery tickets do they really lose any sleep at night over ending up with the upcoming comp pick instead of Diaz?Orioles are Orioles’ing this up. Angelos is insane.
They’re supposedly getting five prospects, so yes.IDK. If you don't like the medicals on the lottery tickets do they really lose any sleep at night over ending up with the upcoming comp pick instead of Diaz?
I don’t know how anyone could be surprised. I was going to post earlier, it’s not close to being done with medicals pending — then I figured everyone here already knows that. It happens regularly on trades and free agent signings.Orioles are Orioles’ing this up. Angelos is insane.
I read just this link and the 5 pages of itMan, I don't know why any of the teams deal with the Os. Angelos is such a toxic owner.
If anyone has a few hours to burn, there's a guy who owns and runs a local all sports station in Baltimore that has a vendetta against the Os for the last 12 years. He's been keeping track of all of the people Angelos has mistreated through the years and some of it can be found here: http://wnst.net/free-the-birds/dear-peter-g-angelos-time-will-not-dim-the-awfulness-of-your-deeds/.
Let’s not get carried away now.Even Dan Duquette doesn't deserve this
there's a ton more if you're interested. Enjoy!I read just this link and the 5 pages of it
Holy crap, I've got the rest of it queued up to read later
This made me feel a bit bad to watch, I think people should do all they can as adults to stop rooting for horribly run franchises, or at least suspend their interest. I know this is easier said than done, but I've done it myself to different extents with the Jets (easier because I didn't grow up rooting for them) and the Knicks (the only team I grew up liking more than the Yankees but I just can't live and die with a team owned by Dolan, it's not good for my mental health).She’s not happy...
Because there’s only one team with control over the player they want? Don’t we all deal with people and companies like this in our jobs, and keep doing so despite the pain, because we just have to?Man, I don't know why any of the teams deal with the Os. Angelos is such a toxic owner.
This is probably less the case currently than it’s ever been since free agency started 40+ years ago.In the end, that baseball teams can spend their way to success -- and I know, the Astros and Royals are nice counter arguments -- has got to be a very tough pill to swallow for fans of the many have nots.
Maybe. But the fact that some teams start on second base financially has always sucked in my mind. And I say that as a fan of a team that starts with a sizable lead off second. Said differently, while the Sox have a special place in my heart, I'm more proud of the titles Boston/NE teams have won in salary cap leagues. This is not a new story but when you see a team lose a player like Machado for economic reasons, it puts a fine point on an old conversation.This is probably less the case currently than it’s ever been since free agency started 40+ years ago.
Not sure I would describe the Os as a "second tier" team. They - well the Angelos family - is making a staggering amount of money from MASN based on the contract MLB signed with the Os when the Nats moved into town. One estimate from 2015 is that the Os made 50M out of MASN that year: http://www.talknats.com/2016/05/07/new-masn-filing-exposes-profits-retained-orioles/.Maybe. But the fact that some teams start on second base financially has always sucked in my mind. And I say that as a fan of a team that starts with a sizable lead off second. Said differently, while the Sox have a special place in my heart, I'm more proud of the titles Boston/NE teams have won in salary cap leagues. This is not a new story but when you see a team lose a player like Machado for economic reasons, it puts a fine point on an old conversation.
Also, why is everyone talking about the Orioles as if they are the dumpster fire of the league? Sure they’ve been epically bad this year, have made terrible deals in the last few years and it looks like the end of the road for Buck.Not sure I would describe the Os as a "second tier" team. They - well the Angelos family - is making a staggering amount of money from MASN based on the contract MLB signed with the Os when the Nats moved into town. One estimate from 2015 is that the Os made 50M out of MASN that year: http://www.talknats.com/2016/05/07/new-masn-filing-exposes-profits-retained-orioles/.
The less MASN pays to the Os and Nats in TV rights fees (that issue is mired in litigation), the more profitable MASN is and because of the ownership structure, the more money Angelos pulls out because the MASN money is exempt from revenue sharing. Money that could be spent on salaries, international bonus signings, or scouts (by all accounts, the Os have the smallest scouting department in baseball).
Note that by artificially lowering the rights fees paid to the Os and Nats, Angelos is also basically taking money away from the other owners.
More fun with Peter Angelos!
Because the Os are a dumpster fire of an organization. Just because they had some success doesn't mean that it isn't a dumpster fire of an organization.Also, why is everyone talking about the Orioles as if they are the dumpster fire of the league? Sure they’ve been epically bad this year, have made terrible deals in the last few years and it looks like the end of the road for Buck.
But it’s been two years since they went to the postseason and they have been in the postseason three times since 2012 (which BTW is more than I even realized):
http://www.espn.com/mlb/history/teams/_/team/Bal
I get that Angelos sucks but the franchise semi-recent history has been pretty good all things considered.
I think you misunderstood my post, I don't feel the least bit bad for the Orioles franchise or anyone working for it, I just felt bad for Rubin specifically after watching the video and seeing how upset she was about Machado leaving. It's rare that I'm not a totally misanthropic asshole, don't make me second guess this time.So I don't really get the agita from the likes of @jon abbey and Mallory Rubin. They traded a potential cornerstone player and the team is falling apart again. Yeah, it's because they fucked up. And yeah it sucks for fans. But it happens.