Lucic threatens Weise in the handshake line; does he have a future here?
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SoxFan58 said:
That's nice. Why didn't he bring that attitude to the ice in this series? He was awful, particularly tonight.
Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger 32sSoxFan58 said:
Weise says Lucic threatened him in the handshake and said something similarly threatening to Emelin. Emotional series ends with tough words.
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Regular season games with these shitfucks next year are going to be a bloodbath. Good.soxhop411 said:
Michael Hurley @michaelFhurley now
Milan Lucic on words w Dale Weise: "It's said on the ice so it'll stay on the ice. So if he wants to be a baby about, he can make it public"
Milan Lucic on words w Dale Weise: "It's said on the ice so it'll stay on the ice. So if he wants to be a baby about, he can make it public"
Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger now
According to @aaronward_nhl the NHL on TSN crew has slowed video of handshake down and lip-readers should be able to decipher Lucic threat.
According to @aaronward_nhl the NHL on TSN crew has slowed video of handshake down and lip-readers should be able to decipher Lucic threat.
Neal is definitely worse than Lucic. Neal is also a better offensive player than Lucic. However he's a douche and I want nothing to do with him on the Bruinslars10 said:
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According to @aaronward_nhl the NHL on TSN crew has slowed video of handshake down and lip-readers should be able to decipher Lucic threat.
The Zapruder film for Canadians... Glad this work is being done... Ugh.
Lucic said: "I'm going to kick your fucking ass next year." The response was: "Is that right?" Lucic: "Yeah"
I don't even care that they lost. Winning the Cup is hard, and Montreal outplayed them. Montreal deserves to move on.
What bothers me is how they lost.
They got away from the things that made them successful all season. They became something that they're not. There was no anger, no toeing the line between violence and physicality. There were multiple mental mistakes, and unfinished chances.
I also hate what Lucic did after the game. The thing that separates hockey players from other sports is that there is supposed to be that respect for one another after the final whistle. The handshake line is one of the must humbling and respected moments in sports.
Lucic played like dogshit, and instead of being a man and admitting it - he acted like a fucking child. If Lucic was so pissed at Weiss and Emelin, maybe he should have played like he didn't want them to move on.
Sometimes you get beat by a better team, sometimes you get beat by pure luck. Either way, when you lose - you accept it, congratulate the other team, and get ready for next year.
I can accept the Bruins losing. It happens. I can accept slumps, or poor play, or whatever. I can't accept what Lucic did. For what he did - he should be gone. That's not what the Bruins should encourage, or accept. That was fucking cowardly.
What bothers me is how they lost.
They got away from the things that made them successful all season. They became something that they're not. There was no anger, no toeing the line between violence and physicality. There were multiple mental mistakes, and unfinished chances.
I also hate what Lucic did after the game. The thing that separates hockey players from other sports is that there is supposed to be that respect for one another after the final whistle. The handshake line is one of the must humbling and respected moments in sports.
Lucic played like dogshit, and instead of being a man and admitting it - he acted like a fucking child. If Lucic was so pissed at Weiss and Emelin, maybe he should have played like he didn't want them to move on.
Sometimes you get beat by a better team, sometimes you get beat by pure luck. Either way, when you lose - you accept it, congratulate the other team, and get ready for next year.
I can accept the Bruins losing. It happens. I can accept slumps, or poor play, or whatever. I can't accept what Lucic did. For what he did - he should be gone. That's not what the Bruins should encourage, or accept. That was fucking cowardly.
God I really want Lucic off this team. Everything that happened during and after this round with him has made me dislike him even more. I cannot stand the guy on or off the ice.
What did he (lucic) do that was so bad? I honestly wasn't watching the handshakes.
edit: crazy timing. full of rage!! haha. but really, I'm the angry one? it comes and goes.
edit: crazy timing. full of rage!! haha. but really, I'm the angry one? it comes and goes.
He told Weiss in the handshake line that he was "going to fucking kill you next year."Frank McBain said:
Which raises the question - why didn't he "fucking kill him" last night?
Out of context? No. I think I've threatened people on this board with worse.Frank McBain said:
But in context, it's cowardly. He waited until there was literally nothing he could do in the course of a game to run his mouth. He took one of the things that is supposed to separate hockey from other sports and tainted it.
It's just one more data point in the "Lucic is a moron" narrative - and when his mouth starts producing more than his play - it might be time to move on.
Violent agreement that Lucic played like crap and would have been better served by using his aggression before the game ended. Violent agreement that Lucic's play in this series was rather underwhelming. Not that he was alone in that, of course.
But count me as someone who could give two shits about whether he or any other Bruin was a good loser. The hand shake line is a nice tradition, to be sure, but how a particular player handles himself in the moments after enduring an excruciating loss to a hated rival is about as low on my sports priority list as anything could be. And in some ways, in this era of players in all sports yucking it up with each other before, during and after games, I find it to be a little refreshing when a player's emotions get the better of him and he doesn't exhibit appropriate behavior.
Conversely, when guys on teams I root for aren't able to be good winners, it drives me nuts.
But count me as someone who could give two shits about whether he or any other Bruin was a good loser. The hand shake line is a nice tradition, to be sure, but how a particular player handles himself in the moments after enduring an excruciating loss to a hated rival is about as low on my sports priority list as anything could be. And in some ways, in this era of players in all sports yucking it up with each other before, during and after games, I find it to be a little refreshing when a player's emotions get the better of him and he doesn't exhibit appropriate behavior.
Conversely, when guys on teams I root for aren't able to be good winners, it drives me nuts.
yeah, I see what you're saying. I guess it's symptomatic of some of his problems, but I don't see them as so severe.
The problem is - that was the most emotion Lucic showed all series. Had Lucic been a force on the ice AND said that in the line - it'd be a lot easier to look past it. Hell, THEN it would be understandable, he left everything on the ice AND he still had more to give.TheoShmeo said:
But he played like shit AND pulled that shit. It's hypocritical and cowardly.
Thanks for that. You spared me having to re-type every bit of that after my iPad died.TheShynessClinic said:
All I can add is that, at some point, things add up. The Vancouver bar fight wasn't necessarily his fault, but smarter people aren't in that situation to begin with. Reese Witherspooning a cop because the neighbors is immature, but as a one-off, you let it go. All this (plus his flex taunt earlier in the series, since I'm a believer in leaving as little motivation for your opponents as possible) paints a fairly clear picture of Lucic: an angry man with FAR more muscle than brain.
I could care less about what Lucic says to guys on the ice or the crap he gets into off the ice as long as it doesn't land him in jail. What concerns me is that he goes through long stretches in the playoffs when the game seems too fast for him and he lacks that finish around the net that you would want your first line winger to have for $6 million on the cap for the next two seasons. Management may want to see if another team would be willing to overpay for him this offseason.
Yessir. My mind isn't in play management mode. i don't know if it's ever in that mode. I'll show myself out.
I have no problem with it. It wasn't particularly classy and in the world of high def cameras it was easy to catch. But I like the fact that its not easy for certain guys to turn the page. Your still pissed a few minutes after the end of your season...good. Hopefully it fuels the offseason and he sets the tone early next year. And I don't think Luc was horrible this series, I think his line was and I place more blame for that on Krejci than Luc. Even at 6 million per, I don't want him skating and checking for anyone else.
PaulinMyrBch said:
He was horrible. And if he's that upset that Weise scored and his team lost the series, he should have used that emotion and anger and actually showed up and tried to prevent it from taking place. He's acting like a child and I'm thoroughly unimpressed. Add to his no-show his galling lack of footspeed and the increasingly obvious fact that the Bruins aren't particularly suited to do well in the new playoff format considering they're going to be seeing a lot of smaller, faster teams in the playoffs from now on (Montreal, TB, NYR, Detroit) and I think trading Lucic away would be the best move the Bruins could make.
Honestly, I usually don't get caught up in this stuff, but he embarrassed himself and the sweater last night. Unacceptable.
He was a douche to be sure, but I'm sure worse has been said in hand shake lines. The difference is Weise decided to be a bitch about it.
the one concerning thing about trying to trade him is, who is going to take him on with that 6 million dollar cap hit. Rats first line scoring winger money and I think we all agree Looch is not that guy and is vastly overpaid.Smiling Joe Hesketh said:
Not proud of Looch, but very proud of the forum/site regulars (Felix, TSC, SJH, cshea) right now.
Be a better loser, Milan.
Be a better loser, Milan.
I'm with SJH on this one. I'm way more concerned with the lack of foot speed and finish from our first line LW making $6 million a year on the cap then I am with any of the crap he says in the hand shake line. Some team out west would probably offer a significant player for Lucic. they might want to investigate that.
Salem's Lot said:
Hopefully it's a team with awful winters and ugly women. Winnipeg could use him.
BoSoxFink said:
GM's all over the league (especially at the draft) talk about getting the next 'Milan Lucic" type. There would be a market for him.
First off, he needs to take ownership of his putrid on-ince play. As do some others. After that, there has to be some context as to the manner it was said, but I don't have a big problem with someone saying I'll fuck you up next year. These guys simply aren't going to be able to turn it off that quick.
FL4WL3SS said:
I actually thought of that on my ride into work this morning, but dismissed it as even too stupid for me. But maybe....
Lucic and Subban for Taylor Hall and Luke Gazdic.
Hall is an elite scorer who has some toughness to his game, and Gazdic replaces Thornton as a legit enforcer/13th forward.
Edmonton gets a veteran power forward and a future potential all star goalie.
Hall is an elite scorer who has some toughness to his game, and Gazdic replaces Thornton as a legit enforcer/13th forward.
Edmonton gets a veteran power forward and a future potential all star goalie.
Just curious but where do you rank Lucic on the list of players who underperformed this series? Chara, Rask, Krecji, Marchand, Miller? Where is Lucic on that list?
Edit, not saying that is in order, just a collection of names who underwhelmed.
Edit, not saying that is in order, just a collection of names who underwhelmed.
PaulinMyrBch said:
Up there with Marchand as one of the two biggest disappointments. No legs, every pass was bad, missing open nets, no presence...nothing.
TheShynessClinic said:
Interesting deal. I'd do it in a heart beat. Not sure Edmonton trades the face of their franchise especially after flopping on the Nail Yakupov pick. If would be easier to deal Hall if he would be developing like any good #1 pick.
+1.Smiling Joe Hesketh said:
Lucic's job is to be a menacing presence both in front of the net and in the corners, and use his size to put the puck on net. He did none of that. Most of his hits this series were the NHL equivalent of the slam dunk; lots of noise, but little impact.
He'd be my first candidate for trade bait, and it has nothing to do with the stupid handshake. I don't recall Billy Smith being diplomatic, win or lose, either.