Longhorn Football 2015: When do we get our horns back?

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Couldn't happen soon enough. Oliver Luck, come on down.
That ship sailed in 2013 IMO. 
 
I'd think TCU's AD gets a long look. 
 
Seriously, Patterson was fucking awful. I didn't realize all the shit he'd been pulling since we're not in Austin and can't get to games, but holy god what a tire fire that guy is. 
 

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Apparently he got hired on the basis of a Power Point he gave at his interview with the regents, promising to double revenue. I guess no one checked out his other qualifications.
 

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Apparently he got hired on the basis of a Power Point he gave at his interview with the regents, promising to double revenue. I guess no one checked out his other qualifications.
In all fairness, the regents weren't vetted either.
 
canderson said:
Seriously, Patterson was fucking awful. I didn't realize all the shit he'd been pulling since we're not in Austin and can't get to games, but holy god what a tire fire that guy is. 
Open your head football coach to a deposition on who calls the plays is never a good thing.
 

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In all fairness, the regents weren't vetted either.
 
Open your head football coach to a deposition on who calls the plays is never a good thing.
The regents were vetted ... by A&M fanboy Rick Perry. 
 

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I didn't realize 10,000 season ticket holders didn't renew for this season. Dear. God.
you should have seen how empty the new fan fest initiative was on Saturday.  There were a lot of dissatisfied longhorns out there.  Obviously some of it was the Notre Dame game, but Patterson's tone deaf attempts at wringing out every cent have really worn thin.  
 

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Back when Dodds was stepping down and Powers was under fire, I was discussing the situation with my Dad (also an alum) and my concern was that it would play out like this:

1. Powers would appoint an AD to replace Dodds
2. The new AD would hire a new football coach
3. Powers would be replaced
4. The new President would not get along with the new AD
5. The new AD would be let go.
6. The new President would hire a new new AD.
7. The new new AD would want "his guy" coaching the football team
8. We'd have 3 football coaches in the span of 4 years, death spiral ensues.

We're 75% of the way there!
 

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If you haven't read Chip Brown's story from June about Patterson being on the hot seat, drop everything and read it now.
 
Just make sure to have asprin nearby. 
This hits a little too close to home:
 
 
“At a time when the football program needs all the support it can get, the program is receiving the opposite – all because of the athletic director.”
Still reading...
 
EDIT:
 
What a dickhead.
 

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ethangl said:
Back when Dodds was stepping down and Powers was under fire, I was discussing the situation with my Dad (also an alum) and my concern was that it would play out like this:

1. Powers would appoint an AD to replace Dodds
2. The new AD would hire a new football coach
3. Powers would be replaced
4. The new President would not get along with the new AD
5. The new AD would be let go.
6. The new President would hire a new new AD.
7. The new new AD would want "his guy" coaching the football team
8. We'd have 3 football coaches in the span of 4 years, death spiral ensues.

We're 75% of the way there!
I get the impression the prez really likes Charlie and any AD will have a little mandate to give him two years. I hope, at least. 
 
Louisville's AD getting some love for the job apparently. No nothing about that program except he hired Petrino back (ouch). 
 

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Somewhat off topic, but was Fenves the first choice to take over for Powers? For some reason, I thought I remembered reading that someone else was tabbed to take over for Powers at an earlier time.
 

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Given Perry's campaign at the time to demolish higher education, I was okay with getting the guy who was intimately familiar with state politics anyway.
 

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Somewhat off topic, but was Fenves the first choice to take over for Powers? For some reason, I thought I remembered reading that someone else was tabbed to take over for Powers at an earlier time.
I haven't been following as closely as I used to, but Powers wanted to stay and was forced out, so there was an underlying turmoil to the process. There was a marked split between the administration and the BOR on the presidency, so it's kind of imprecise to say someone was a first choice.
 

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I haven't been following as closely as I used to, but Powers wanted to stay and was forced out, so there was an underlying turmoil to the process. There was a marked split between the administration and the BOR on the presidency, so it's kind of imprecise to say someone was a first choice.
I casually glance through my alumni magazine and emails (which I receive no less that ten a week of). I thought I read an article that an astronaut from NASA was taking over for Powers, so I was surprised when I saw the search for a new president. It might have just been an alumni spotlight as I have been able to find absolutely nothing in regards to this.
 

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The short version is that Governor Goodhair tried to pack the BoR with aggy and then force faculty to give cost accounting for their teaching and research efforts (make them "cost out" the classes they teach versus the research they do) and then make this information public as a way of trying to force faculty to teach only and not conduct research to lower the per hour or per student cost of teaching. There was a power struggle between Powers and the BoR because Powers would not bow the pressure to make those changes, so Perry tried to force him via the BoR. As I understand it, the compromise eventually reached was that both Powers and some aggy BoR members would both step down and a new BoR Chairman would come in (General McRaven).
 

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Perrin getting a one year interim contract, interesting.

Chip Brown ‏@ChipBrownHD · 7m7 minutes ago
#Texas pres Greg Fenves: Steve Patterson resignation "mutually agreed upon." Interim AD Mike Perrin to serve thru Aug 2016, earn $750,000.
 

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As much hate as Patterson gets (deservedly so) he also managed 3 extreme positives.  
 
1) Hiring Charlie Strong 
2) Hiring Shaka Smart
3) Shutting down on the leaks from Bellmont 
 
Everything else was pretty much abhorrent but I think if the next AD hired is even average he'll be here for a long time because of that.
 

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It'll be interesting to see what happens with our next apparel deal. Patterson supposedly had a final offer from Nike that roughly doubles Michigan's deal, and was going to go to market with it in a couple weeks.
 

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They will likely lose this game but I'm seeing a lot of things for which we can be excited. Heard, obviously, chief among them.

The team is showing its youth and lack of discipline, though. Painful to watch at times.
 

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They're still not a very good team, at least defensively, but they are getting better. We'll win at least one game this year that we are expected to lose. I'd give anything for it to be Baylor.
 

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Not like that. I'd rather lose any other way. That one's gonna take a while to digest.
 

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I'm surprisingly not crushed. Aside from the win I couldn't have asked more from the team, definitely the offense. The kid's 2 minute drill was perfect and a redeemer after the first half turnover.

Fuck Cal, but we'll be hardened against Big 12 play.
 

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I still don't quite know how to process the fact that we now need to worry about the defense far more than the offense. That defense is...not good.
 

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Obviously a brutal stretch, but I think we have a good shot against OK State at home. Aside from being super hungry for what's practically a must-win bowl-picture wise, we've been up against bigger, faster competition while they've been feasting on the likes of Central Michigan and UTSA. It's possible we don't see as good of a QB all year after Goff and we get one of our starting safeties back.
 
The magnitude of Heard's performance still hasn't fully codified for me, I think. He has exactly the feel we need with a shaky, young OL -- the ability to scramble for 45 yards or fake the run last second for chunks of a big gain on the edge of the pocket. I have to hope Norvell can further exploit that with his background at OU.
 

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Obviously a brutal stretch, but I think we have a good shot against OK State at home. Aside from being super hungry for what's practically a must-win bowl-picture wise, we've been up against bigger, faster competition while they've been feasting on the likes of Central Michigan and UTSA. It's possible we don't see as good of a QB all year after Goff and we get one of our starting safeties back.
 
The magnitude of Heard's performance still hasn't fully codified for me, I think. He has exactly the feel we need with a shaky, young OL -- the ability to scramble for 45 yards or fake the run last second for chunks of a big gain on the edge of the pocket. I have to hope Norvell can further exploit that with his background at OU.
 
They did an excellent job in the Longhorn Network postgame show discussing the particulars of why Norvell was elevated. Part of that is that his play calling is more conducive to the current crop of offensive personnel. Because that offense is so young, they needed to scrap certain parts of the playbook in order to ensure that the players could execute it confidently.
 
As an aside, I love everything Norvell has to say. He had me wanting to run through a wall for him. I can definitely see why he could get the most out of the offense, whereas Watson could not (quarterback, notwithstanding).
 

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I'm still pissed. I don't see 5 more wins, hell the only wins I see are Kansas and maybe OK State. Defense has maaaaaajor issues.
The picture's still really undefined, I think.
 
The stretch between OU and Baylor is obviously our best shot, and I think this team will have grown up a lot by Dec. 5 in Waco.
 
Basically, win this week (not impossible at home), and who knows...
 

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The problem is that the margin for error against competent offenses appears to be razor thin. Unfortunately, they're in the wrong conference if they don't want to face competent offenses every week.
 
With that said, I'm with canderson. Any hope of winning six games was predicated on beating Cal. As the team currently stands, I just don't see how they're going to win five of nine conference games. They may very well grow up and bite Baylor in the ass (and wouldn't that be something) but I wouldn't bet on it.
 

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Is anyone in the Boston area? I was thinking about checking out the Texas Exes game watching event this week at one of the bars by North Station but was wondering if someone knows what to expect?
 

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I still don't quite know how to process the fact that we now need to worry about the defense far more than the offense. That defense is...not good.
This is where I am. I originally posted that I was confident in the defense with the replacements coming in, but man they have looked pretty pedestrian to put it mildly. Heard looking like a legit QB is definitely nice to see, and they looked really good at times on offense against Cal. D looks like it has some growing to do, and special teams can still lose us games (obviously, after last weekend)
 
I do keep telling myself "This is a really, really, really young team" over and over again. They can radically improve over the course of the year, and the kids have looked good in spurts. If they can steal a win this weekend, I'll stand by my seven win prediction (Rice, OK State, Iowa State, Kansas, TT and two of OU, Baylor, WVU and bowl opponent, TCU being a win even I won't predict).  
 

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I'm trying to remember seeing a punter do that, and I can't.

Awful way to lose.
 

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Fuck it, I'll be the one to say it, it took a perfect storm for them to lose this game. From the epically shitty officiating, to Charlie not knowing how the fuck to manage the clock, to an Aussie punter not knowing how to catch, it took everything going against them to lose.

EVERY SINGLE questionable call went against Texas. This game was so poorly officiated, words escape me.
 

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5-22 against AP ranked opponents since 2010. I may hurl...
 

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Ending this season with three wins (can they upset Iowa State on the road for that third win?) puts Charlie on a fire though. If the don't win 8 in 2016 he is burnt toast.
 

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I was in school during the lost decade of Akers-McWilliams. I remember losing to Cougar High. I remember 4-7 in 1988. I was at the games.
 
This is worse. I think we're looking at another lost decade. So much has changed that one or two good recruiting years just won't fix it. Baylor, froggy, aggy, piggy, Tceh, even pony and Cougar High - they're not going away. Baylor scored 70 yesterday. Coach Gosling hung 52 on the frogs last night and lost. aggy would put 50 on our defense without breaking a sweat.
 
I've been a die-hard Longhorn fan since I started watching college football games at Jones Stadium in Lubbock when I was a little boy. I saw Darrell Royal and Earl Campbell play out on the high plains against the Red Raiders and fell in love with the stormtrooper white unis, the stark longhorn insignia and the simple power of Longhorn football.
 
But this team is hard to watch. Not hard to root for, but hard to watch. And it makes me sad. There are so many ways that a college football team can be good: air raid, spread, read option, power run, good defense, etc. Texas is exactly none of these things. There are schemes and there is talent and there is coaching out there, but Texas has none of it:
 
- 106th in passing offense
- 75th (yay!) in rushing offense
- 111th in total offense
- 78th in scoring offense
 
Match those against:
 
- 106th in passing yards allowed
- 104th in rushing defense
- 114th in total defense
- 104th in scoring defense
 
and you have the recipe for 3-9. 
 
I get that there were some atrocious calls that influenced the outcome of yesterday's game. But Okie Lite is not a great football team. Rudolph gifted us two touchdowns. Our defense outscored our offense. We had 40 total yards of offense in the second half. The list goes on and on. We lost yesterday because we are a bad, poorly coached football team that can't execute simple things like extra points and punts.
 
I'll watch every snap this year, as I do every year, but this is a terrible football team by any measure. And I see little hope that these coaches have any clue as to how to fix it. 21 months into his tenure as HFC is a reasonable amount of time to measure Charlie Strong's coaching ability. And the team continues to regress. After being spoiled for a decade with Simms, Applewhite, VY, and Colt, I guess we're back to Chance Mock and Shannon Kelly. At this point I'd settle for Peter Gardere.
 

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Peter Gardere ... yikes! Strong seems to be a terrible game manager, like Rex Ryan bad.

Let's say they go 6-7 or 7-6 next season, who do they turn to exactly? Strong won't survive that. You can't pluck a small D1 coach for Texas, it's too big a boat for them to steer.