Lets Talk About Drew Magary

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Russillo, Dan Patrick, SVP, are middle aged white guys who came up in the 90s. It is not surprising they would latch on to the mediocre talents of Barstool, as it is the last remenants of late 90s bro culture.
 

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Russillo, Dan Patrick, SVP, are middle aged white guys who came up in the 90s. It is not surprising they would latch on to the mediocre talents of Barstool, as it is the last remenants of late 90s bro culture.
And people like Chris Long and Rachel Nichols?

Maybe fans like myself are part of the problem. I likely am. But at the same time, go online and look at the responses to the Pats trading for Michael Bennett. Most of us probably watch a lot of NFL and that organization has done a lot more widespread harm than Barstool in my opinion. I feel more guilty watching it than I do listening to PMT. There are a lot of shitty people out there and I don't know how you remove yourself from association with them all. They infect everything.
 
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How do you feel about famous media people that support them? This is a legit question. Obviously guys like SVP, Rusillo, Nichols, and others (ESPN and non-ESPN) are fans and advocates for what PMT does and I’m sure had, however smalll, a hand in getting them into the Mothership for that lovely week. Are they complicit in the cross burnings or are they just sitting on the sidelines as innocent bystanders?
Speaking only for myself, I do not equate PMT with Barstool. I doubt very much that Rachel Nichols or SVP feel that having a good relationship with PMT means that they approve of "smokeshow of the week" or whatever.

I would have to give serious thought to so much as pissing on Bari Weiss or Bret Stephens if they were on fire, but I still subscribe to the NYT.
 

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In the Origins podcast about ESPN Beadle basically said the same about Barstool. She thinks Portnoy is a piece of shit but people she trusts knows there’s nuance to it. Hell, Big Cat and PFT basically say they hate Portnoy on the podcast. That said, Big Cat knows that Portnoy is a trench guy given their history together.
 

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Russillo, Dan Patrick, SVP, are middle aged white guys who came up in the 90s. It is not surprising they would latch on to the mediocre talents of Barstool, as it is the last remenants of late 90s bro culture.
They have one of the top 10 downloaded podcasts in the US. Stop with the disingenuous bullshit that you have obviously never consumed.
 

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In the Origins podcast about ESPN Beadle basically said the same about Barstool. She thinks Portnoy is a piece of shit but people she trusts knows there’s nuance to it. Hell, Big Cat and PFT basically say they hate Portnoy on the podcast. That said, Big Cat knows that Portnoy is a trench guy given their history together.
When did Big Cat say he hated Portnoy in a non-joking way?
Speaking only for myself, I do not equate PMT with Barstool. I doubt very much that Rachel Nichols or SVP feel that having a good relationship with PMT means that they approve of "smokeshow of the week" or whatever.

I would have to give serious thought to so much as pissing on Bari Weiss or Bret Stephens if they were on fire, but I still subscribe to the NYT.
And people like Chris Long and Rachel Nichols?

Maybe fans like myself are part of the problem. I likely am. But at the same time, go online and look at the responses to the Pats trading for Michael Bennett. Most of us probably watch a lot of NFL and that organization has done a lot more widespread harm than Barstool in my opinion. I feel more guilty watching it than I do listening to PMT. There are a lot of shitty people out there and I don't know how you remove yourself from association with them all. They infect everything.
I think the discussion taking place in OiD kind of speaks to this. There is a line, but for me, consuming PMT is not crossing that line.
 

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It's not a piece from Drew, but this is the kinda work from the new Deadspin that comes across as ridiculous. The article is so over the top it's almost a parody of itself.

http://deadsp.in/pxJ8U1z
 

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I started reading this article and thought that it must be a really slow news day. What hasn't SI slapped their logo on? We're drawing the line at disgusting hot dogs now?The SI brand has been circling the toilet for years and they're a magazine who hasn't been able to make headway on the internet. Guess what, this is going to happen a lot more because people like money.
 

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There's talk that the primary reason Deadspin is going after that SI article is because Charlotte Wilder, the author, is friendly with the PMT guys and has been on their show before. While I think a $30 hot dog is crazy, penning a huge piece on the piece about the $30 hot dog is equally crazy.
 

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Wait, you don't think it is absolutely ridiculous that SI paired with the D-Backs...to create a $30 Hot Dog?
No. Especially from Charlotte who isn't trying to come across as a traditional writer in the vein of the SI from 30 years ago. I mean it's not something I'd be dying to read, but I'm also not so enraged by it that I spend however many hours writing how offended I am that it exists.
 

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An article about how far SI has has to lower itself to continue to operate might've at least been of passing interest, assuming there was good evidence that SI, the company that once gave away a sneaker phone with a subscription, has "lowered itself" here.

But they instead took the "this is outrageous" tenor, which is just kind of silly. I find it particularly ironic that a site on which it's hard to find the editorial content for all the ads masked to look like articles would post this.
 

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Is there anything Deadspin likes or enjoys anymore in sports? The article was silly crap which isn't any different than a chunk of what SI publishes these days, but it certainly didn't merit Deadspin blasting it.
 

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I don't get it. The Barstool stuff is an easy target where Deadspin gets haters, but also a ton of allies. The reaction to this one makes it pretty clear that Charlotte is well liked among her peers outside of Deadspin.
 

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also, it's a fucking hot dog. It's hard to get too emotional about that, or see how someone gets super judge-y. The things I think are dumb, but also unremarkably so, I tend to just ignore.
 

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Burneko is the absolute worst. He SHOUTS his columns in a pretty much unreadable way. He got his bones writing 10K word recipes that no one could follow, but now just lets everyone know what the only cool/moral/righteous thing to think/do/say is. Basically, he's the avatar for the new Deadspin.
 

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They have these dogs in just about every park, you either eat them or you don't. The thing that's different about this dog is that it uses the Sports Illustrated name, which, again, who cares. And going after the writer is bush league too. Everyone has done something for their job that may not meet their scruples or may make you feel gross, but you do it because you'd like to get paid.

I'm sure Charlotte can't pay her rent with Burneko cool bucks.

But they instead took the "this is outrageous" tenor, which is just kind of silly. I find it particularly ironic that a site on which it's hard to find the editorial content for all the ads masked to look like articles would post this.
And this is spot on.
 

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An article about how far SI has has to lower itself to continue to operate might've at least been of passing interest, assuming there was good evidence that SI, the company that once gave away a sneaker phone with a subscription, has "lowered itself" here.
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Sneaker phone? Bah.
I had the football phone.
 

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Sneaker phone? Bah.
I had the football phone.
When I was a kid, I wanted one of these so badly I called and asked how a current subscriber could get it. When I was told that I could not, I asked how long I'd have to wait ro re-subscribe after canceling to get a phone?

They sent me a phone.
 

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When I was a kid, I wanted one of these so badly I called and asked how a current subscriber could get it. When I was told that I could not, I asked how long I'd have to wait ro re-subscribe after canceling to get a phone?

They sent me a phone.
 

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When I was a kid, I wanted one of these so badly I called and asked how a current subscriber could get it. When I was told that I could not, I asked how long I'd have to wait ro re-subscribe after canceling to get a phone?

They sent me a phone.
That and Columbia House cds were my childhood obsession.
 

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That and Columbia House cds were my childhood obsession.
For his “how to” speech assignment, a kid in my high school public speaking class did “How to get the CDs from Columbia House for free and get always with it”. (Get the 12 for a penny and then tell them you are under 18 so the contract is invalid and threaten to file a complaint if they go after you).

It was a good speech. Everyone else in the class left there thinking “sweet!”.

The teacher was totally at a loss on how to grade him.
 

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If you're interested in knowing what happened to Magary, he talks about it here.

According to the comments, I guess he's talked about it on the Deadcast, but I don't listen to that. I tried it once, it wasn't for me.
 

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That's an insane read. He's incredibly fortunate that they pushed the doctors like that, wow.
 

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Whew, I'm freaked out just reading that. Such a harrowing experience.

I like that he's addressed that his personality has changed a bit, as it does in almost all brain injuries. That's going to be tough for everyone to deal with.

I agree with all the above, that's a tremendous piece.
 

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What luck that it happened while he was around people that didn’t take”no” for an answer.

It happens at home, writing in his office where his wife might not check on him for a while? Dead.

It happens on a plane? Dead.

It happens on the empty elevator of the hotel? Dead.

Additionally, that’s great that his boss stood up to the doctors. I’ve been there - doctor recommended treatment for family member that was 10000000% wrong and I had to be the voice saying no. It’s tiring and difficult and requires absolute confidence in your own rightness. And Magary’s boss was that confident and that right.

What a story. Life is so fragile.
 

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This just happened to a colleague of mine. She felt sick at work in early Feb, collapsed with an embolism, but came out of her coma in late Feb and started rehab and recovery. And that was the last I update I heard until she suddenly died in mid- April. The brain is a scary place
 

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Sure sounds like they want Deadspin to stick more to sports. Greenwell was there only 18 months.
Could also be the blowback for that piece they ran criticizing the new owner's hiring practices. Sounds like things will be different either way. The site had a lot of editorial freedom under Denton because that's his approach, and then kept a lot of it under Univision because nobody at Univision seemed to know the site existed. The new guy seems both hands-on and thin-skinned.
 

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