RIP to kobe Wife and 3 daughters
The Jane Fonda comment in this was worth seeing
I've been considering posting on this thread today, but I'm just going to quote this because it pretty much sums up my feelings perfectly.
Hey brother, always nice hearing from you.
My wife and I watched it too and discussed the same thing. That everyone right now feels obligated to respond the same way for fear of being shamed. Evan Rachel Wood for example dared to tweet out a reminder of Bryant's raping of a 19-year old and she was met with a barrage of hate. She has since deleted the tweet.
Let's not forget it was someone's barely-adult daughter he raped.
Who is forgetting that? I don’t follow your post, but that is pretty standard for your posting.
I can personally say I’m not forgetting. I said earlier in the thread this hits close to home for me because I shared the commonality with my daughter that Kobe and his daughter did. It’s very sad that they both lost their lives traveling so Gigi could play a basketball game as did all the others aboard.
He also benefited from the point in his career in which the rape took place. If this happened near end of his playing days or after it badly tarnishes the luster of a storied career and possibly ruins him. Kobe played an additional 13 seasons after 2003. There were 13 years of idol building after the rape. Unfortunately that is the Kobe we see being celebrated.
nice to hear from u too no I have info on cosby about how it was known by insiders in the late 80's cosby were doing that
He was arguably the face of the league until LeBron went to Miami. Also, LA basketball was in a real sorry state of affairs in the post-Showtime era. He and Shaq will be gods forever there.
That helps, thanks! I couldn’t figure out the circles over Glendale. At the end there was a sudden drop in altitude corresponding to a sudden increase in speed. To me it doesn’t appear like the pilot got disoriented and flew into terrain so something mechanical? Was there a mayday? I’m not a NTSB investigator so take anything I say as a Wag.
No mayday that I heard, just a lot of back and forth about the route they would take into Van Nuys along a couple different highways, and all seemed fine, and then the communication went dead and then radar cut out entirely.
This is so well said and exactly what I thought when I heard the news.
Not exactly true, with respect to the apology. He made one, through his attorney at the end of the criminal case. It's been posted in parts in this thread, but here's the complete version:
Yeah, I heard about it here a while before Hannibal's clip went viral and the linked article blew my mind. Bill Maher was on Rogan a couple weeks ago and says the rumors were out there in comedy circles in the mid(?) 80s. LIke women saying you want to stay away from him.
I mostly agree except I don't care that he didn't ask for our forgiveness. When it comes to forgiveness in this matter, there are just a couple of people who have the right to authorize that.
My friend referenced trying to follow the highways and said, “all this could have been avoided and they could have just landed somewhere else.”
It’s been that way for everyone who has been exposed the past few years - Louis, MJ, R Kelly, Weinstein, Epstein, Spacey, Singer, Ratner.
could it be that the pilot was inexperienced with foggy conditions, being LA and all?
According to FlightAware, the weather for John Wayne was MVFR (marginal visual flight conditions) for most of the day. So not a good day to fly if you are not instrument rated.
it’s all a WAG at this point, we don’t know shit yet.
tell your friend to fuck off for me. His speculation doesn’t help. I say that as a military helicopter pilot with (EDIt: insert resume details here, I don’t want to be a douche). He doesn’t know what happened in that aircraft yet because no one does and his cavalier language is insulting to a fellow pilot who might have done an outstanding job and still died for all we know. Some emergencies just aren’t survivable, some great pilots get themselves and their pax killed being stupid. Often the answer is in between. But only a jackass speculates with incomplete information at this point.
Helicopter pilots get cavalier with the weather, especially around terrain in a manner that would terrify most fixed wing pilots. I say that now flying fixed wing aircraft for a major airline. Controlled Flight Into Terrain (CFIT) is a common helicopter killer and it is a fairly linear risk across the range of pilot experience and quality of equipment.
Looks like that tweet, or some variation is still there though
Sorry to highlight truther this one, but the overhead angle shows that he wasn't actually faking the throw in into Kobe's face. It's just a bad camera angle.
Putting everything else aside for a moment, I just wanted to highlight how great of a post this is. It cannot be understated how much Kobe meant to the NBA. He was 100% the face of the league post MJ and pre LeBron in Miami. He was the guy the current generation of players looked up to. He mentored and worked with a lot of guys post retirement. Gordon Hayward, Kemba Walker, Jaylen Brown, and Marcus Smart all with quotes after the game today about how Kobe meant something to them one way or the other. Brad Stevens was emotional pre-game talking about how Kobe transitioned from a player to a dad and a coach. He meant A LOT to A LOT of players in this league.
