Kirk and Callahan: Done
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Hey today is the big celebration right? The guys last day on NESN? I wonder if they will even acknowledge it? Maybe do a best of bit...haha..How will they handle Mayor's death?
Creepy John Dennis is expecting a huge ratings boost once they are off NESN.
They are in costumes today. I assume that's Mazz that Kirk is dressed up as?
They are in costumes today. I assume that's Mazz that Kirk is dressed up as?
When I got in my car yesterday, it was on EEI (My dad used my car during the day) and i heard for 3 minutes (sarcastically, of course) how awesome a journalist and a professional Erin Andrews is. it was pretty sad, actually.
LOL....yeah, the Rodney Harrison conversation was awkward enough, but Kirk's birthday lap dance really took the cake, so to speak.Patriot_Reign said:
Bellhorn said:
One of the producer's on MFB said that Rodney had called them back after the interview and was pissed off about the line of questioning. Why is he so salty?
I heard the Rodney interview. No one covered themselves in glory, that's for sure.
First, Callahan asked which player in the upcoming game was most likely to choke. Rodney was just like, "C'mon man."
Then Kirk tried to nail him to a prediction. Rodney demurred. They talked about other this. Then Kirk comes back to it with, "it's not like anyone's going to die if you give us a prediction." Rodney says, "I gotta go get a costume," and Dennis did well to save it from a full on hang-up.
Mildly entertaining.
First, Callahan asked which player in the upcoming game was most likely to choke. Rodney was just like, "C'mon man."
Then Kirk tried to nail him to a prediction. Rodney demurred. They talked about other this. Then Kirk comes back to it with, "it's not like anyone's going to die if you give us a prediction." Rodney says, "I gotta go get a costume," and Dennis did well to save it from a full on hang-up.
Mildly entertaining.
I've listened two days this week, for a total of about six minutes. Both times all three of them were hammering Ellen Degeneras for being an awful awful person. I'm not sure why she is an awful awful person; it seemed to have something to do with her not saying hello to one of their friends.
Lots of radio programs are often not that good, but it's amazing how often D&C drop down into the unlistenable zone. I will check back in a couple of weeks to see if they've moved on to something else, but I don't have high hopes.
Lots of radio programs are often not that good, but it's amazing how often D&C drop down into the unlistenable zone. I will check back in a couple of weeks to see if they've moved on to something else, but I don't have high hopes.
This was a legitimate beef with Ellen. One of the kids from the Jimmy Fund telethon wanted to meet her. They raised money to get accommodations made to fly him out to meet her while they reached out to her representatives to arrange the meeting.snowmanny said:
But when the kid got there it wasn't on her agenda and she didn't meet with him but they were nice enough to get him tickets to attend the show.
Her producer sent an email saying something to the effect of not being able to help everyone who wants to meet Ellen. Even though there were months of planning. Sadly the kid passed shortly afterwards.
They were hoping it would go viral. I think they are in the right on this one.
They did. Their producer was in contact with her people. Ellen's people's were asking all sorts of questions and even asked for his medical reports which were provided..There is no Rev said:
shoebooty said:
They are totally right on this one. Ellen is a total phony who is only out for herself and to promote her brand. My wife and daughter watch this crap. Take for example the two British girls Sophia Grace and Rosie. They have hardly a lick of talent. The Sophia girl is an average singer and the other one doesn't sing and just dances to the other one singing and due to Ellen they have become pretty famous from the show and continue to make numerous appearances on the show. She will promote them to further the Ellen Brand yet have no time for a Jimmy Fund patient.
jsinger121 said:
They may have a point, I am sure Ellen the businesswoman/off-screen real person is not the warm, successor-to-Oprah character that she plays on TV. But spare me the Callahan sanctimonious crap. They have been beating this horse all week, and all three get worked up into such a lather each time she comes up, it's over the top and rings completely hollow to me. This morning Gerry said that it was so hard not to swear when discussing her, and made proceeded to make a series of grunts and groans because he was restraining himself with great difficulty from what he really wanted to say. I don't doubt they feel some level of frustration, but then to blow it out of proportion while simultaneously describing her as phony and a fraud is ironic and, for that show, par for the course.
I happened to be listening when Dennis was expounding on some Star Magazine article about how hard she is to work for and what a tyrant she is.
Apparently without irony.
Apparently without irony.
You know, with them being buddies with the Farralley brothers, you would think that they would understand that the people you see on TV aren't always like that in real life. And that most of Hollywood is phony.
I wonder if EEI has fainting couches for these three delicate flowers who just had their worlds rocked.
"Ah do declare, that Ellen DeGeneres is not as cordial as she appears on the TV. It's as if her niceness is an act! I for one will only accept the words of true blue celebrities, like Donald Trump and Rush Limbaugh."
But I'm sure they're just angry because of the Jimmy Fund kid, nothing else. Nothing else at all.
I wonder if EEI has fainting couches for these three delicate flowers who just had their worlds rocked.
"Ah do declare, that Ellen DeGeneres is not as cordial as she appears on the TV. It's as if her niceness is an act! I for one will only accept the words of true blue celebrities, like Donald Trump and Rush Limbaugh."
But I'm sure they're just angry because of the Jimmy Fund kid, nothing else. Nothing else at all.
Tuned in this morning on my way to work to catch the very tail end of a conversation about gay marriage. Kirk said something along the lines of it having absolutely zero effect on him, and if two guys down the street have a ceremony, it's not going to stop him from golfing every weekend. When he asked Gerry why he doesn't support it and why anybody else should care, Gerry stated, "You just wait." He then made a comment about Catholic Charities adoption, but didn't expand on it.
They've also been railing on this Massachusetts field hockey story, where a boy is playing goalie for a team, and is dominating. Gerry said, "maybe he'll try out for the role of Cinderella in the next school play." He can't help himself.
They've also been railing on this Massachusetts field hockey story, where a boy is playing goalie for a team, and is dominating. Gerry said, "maybe he'll try out for the role of Cinderella in the next school play." He can't help himself.
Kirk owned him a few days ago too. He just kept pressing him on it, and Callahan had no real answer for him. And he always brings up Buckley like he's his personal exception to his rule. It's the whole "Wait, I'm friends with a black guy!," Costanza thing.
CantKeepmedown said:
I caught a bit of this on D&H yesterday and what's the big deal? In 1998-2000 (not sure which years) but our high school (in MA) had a male field hockey goalie. He was also the goalie for the ice hockey team.
he dominated and I think they won the states i believe. I can't find a reference online but I remember it being a point of discussion / joke.
Today I was listening for the obligatory two minutes between Touch and Rich (O2MBT&R) and they were talking about the fly over and how Minihane doesn't think it's the whiz-bang fun fest that Gerry and John do. So Callahan starts saying, "Oh I suppose that's because you aren't into the military or this country, right? And you don't like to say the Pledge of Allegiance when you were a kid. I bet you didn't say 'under God', right? RIGHT?" Minihane says, "Yeah sure. But I didn't say the Pledge when I was a kid. And I didn't say 'under God' when I was in eighth or ninth grade. I thought it was kinda dumb."
Gerry found this hard to believe. "You didn't say 'under God' when you were in eighth or ninth grade? ARE YOU SERIOUS? Oh wait, I forgot that you're from Winchester. I bet that you said, 'Under the SUN GOD or something', right? Chortle, chortle. GUFFAW!"
Whether or not Minihane said "under God" is not really the point. He probably didn't because no one took the Pledge of Allegiance seriously in junior high or high school. By the time you're that age, you've said it thousands of times and it's lost its meaning and you're a dip shit teenager.
The point of this little rant--and I don't think that this gets that much attention--is the zingers that Gerry Callahan says that he thinks are awesome and witty and funny. I get that the guy is on the air for 20 hours a week and not everything is going to be Chuckle Hut worth, but good lord, he is legitimately one of the unfunniest people in front of a microphone. This sort of "Under the sun god" quip is par for the course for this guy. You could probably say that Callahan is doing some form of "Dad joke" but that's giving a bad name to Dad jokes.
This joke doesn't even make sense. Are liberals pagans? Is Winchester even considered liberal? I live pretty close to Winchester and I don't think it's Cambridge west. It's practically Andover. Gerry Callahan's politics and views on life are pretty abysmal but his humor, man, that's the absolute worst.
Gerry found this hard to believe. "You didn't say 'under God' when you were in eighth or ninth grade? ARE YOU SERIOUS? Oh wait, I forgot that you're from Winchester. I bet that you said, 'Under the SUN GOD or something', right? Chortle, chortle. GUFFAW!"
Whether or not Minihane said "under God" is not really the point. He probably didn't because no one took the Pledge of Allegiance seriously in junior high or high school. By the time you're that age, you've said it thousands of times and it's lost its meaning and you're a dip shit teenager.
The point of this little rant--and I don't think that this gets that much attention--is the zingers that Gerry Callahan says that he thinks are awesome and witty and funny. I get that the guy is on the air for 20 hours a week and not everything is going to be Chuckle Hut worth, but good lord, he is legitimately one of the unfunniest people in front of a microphone. This sort of "Under the sun god" quip is par for the course for this guy. You could probably say that Callahan is doing some form of "Dad joke" but that's giving a bad name to Dad jokes.
This joke doesn't even make sense. Are liberals pagans? Is Winchester even considered liberal? I live pretty close to Winchester and I don't think it's Cambridge west. It's practically Andover. Gerry Callahan's politics and views on life are pretty abysmal but his humor, man, that's the absolute worst.
John Marzano Olympic Hero said:
How old is Minihane? I attended school in Winchester from '88-'99 - I don't really recall saying the pledge. Maybe we did in elementary school, but I can't really remember.
And yeah - Winchester is far from the liberal stronghold that Callahan makes it out to be. That town is home to some turboracists.
Oh, and we worshiped Veðrfölnir. Do you research, Callahan.
grimshaw said:
He's seven years older than I am, then. Maybe they said the pledge back then, maybe they didn't. Regardless, Callahan is a cockswallower.
I'm one of the few here that actually likes listening to Dennis and Callahan, but holy cow they are brutal this morning. They cannot fathom the Hanley/Pablo deals and are lamenting how they are giving up on Xander Bogaerts.
"They will rue the day when they watch him (Bogaerts) produce elsewhere." - John Dennis
It's like they cannot fathom the notion that the Sox would play Hanley in left.
"They will rue the day when they watch him (Bogaerts) produce elsewhere." - John Dennis
It's like they cannot fathom the notion that the Sox would play Hanley in left.
D&C is essentially the radio form of click baiting. They say stupid and controversial things. People get mad and continue to listen or call to call them out on being idiots. And they completely refuse to respond in an intelligent fashion. They don't know anything about baseball to the extent of where it is embarrassing. WEEI is going down the drains. The market is becoming more informed and intelligent and they running out hosts that can't hold an intelligent discussions without beating a topic into the ground.
The best shows are the 10-midnight ones.
The best shows are the 10-midnight ones.
This is all sports radio, not just D&C or WEEI. They run on the assumption that listeners are only there for ~20 minute chunks, not all four hours of each program. So its repetitive and overly reliant on the whatever talking points generate more calls. As much as the "more informed and intelligent" listeners would love four hours of evolved conversations, hosts and program managers are deathly afraid of people tuning in halfway through and feeling like they missed enough of the conversation that they can't follow it and tune out again.GilaMonster said:
If you want in depth and non-repetitive, podcasts are the way to go.
What do you expect? They spent the majority of a truly great pitcher's career--probably the best in Sox history--calling him "Petey the Punk" and inventing negative stories.
D&C spent the entire careers of Pedro, Manny and David Ortiz (again three all-time greats) bitching about petty bullshit instead of talking about their greatness.
Think about that the next time they claim they're "fans".
D&C spent the entire careers of Pedro, Manny and David Ortiz (again three all-time greats) bitching about petty bullshit instead of talking about their greatness.
Think about that the next time they claim they're "fans".
Vandalman said:
There might be a Rice-like element of, "a lot of reporters thought he was an asshole" to it. But I doubt that it was his politics. It could also be the fact that his outstanding MLB seasons ( 8 or 9 of them) had lots of
EDIT: to change "mediocre" to not-full.
Really? Schilling's politics played a role in him not getting elected.
Well, at least Schilling can hang out with other conservative, non-Cooperstown elected dudes like Mike Schmidt and Steve Carlton. I'd wager that 85% of the Baseball Hall of Fame are conservatives.
And I love how Callahan ignores that Schilling completely dicked over Rhode Island with his video game company. Not that that had anything to do with the voting either, but if a voter was going to weigh the two reasons, I'm sure that's a bit more feasible than "He voted for Bush!"
Well, at least Schilling can hang out with other conservative, non-Cooperstown elected dudes like Mike Schmidt and Steve Carlton. I'd wager that 85% of the Baseball Hall of Fame are conservatives.
And I love how Callahan ignores that Schilling completely dicked over Rhode Island with his video game company. Not that that had anything to do with the voting either, but if a voter was going to weigh the two reasons, I'm sure that's a bit more feasible than "He voted for Bush!"
Apparently, Schilling was on air with them earlier and seemed to side with Callahan, at least in terms of politics potentially playing a role. No idea what the context of the conversation was (I don't listen), but the show's twitter sent this out a little while ago:
Dennis and Callahan @DandCShow
.@gehrig38 on John Smoltz's induction:"I think he is a Democrat & so I know as a Republican there's some people that really don't like that"
Dennis and Callahan @DandCShow
.@gehrig38 on John Smoltz's induction:"I think he is a Democrat & so I know as a Republican there's some people that really don't like that"
Red(s)HawksFan said:
You know what? I hope that Schilling never gets inducted into the HoF. Fuck him.
I wish we kept Casey Fossum.
Red(s)HawksFan said:
That's Peter King-esque in its non-English-ness. (people don't like what?)
But a large point: while the vast majority of people within 150 miles of Boston probably know Schilling's politics, both he and Callahan are suffering from delusions of grandeur if they think that many people beyond New England do. Callahan is just a liberal-baiting troll. And I remain convinced that for all his talent, Schilling is just not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
Smoltz is a super-conservative born again Christian. Homophobe - once compared gay marriage to bestiality.
He's on your team g38!
He's on your team g38!
I don't know why Schilling is being kept out, but there is a very small difference between Smoltz and Schilling. That Smoltz is in on his first ballot, while Schilling and Mussina are hundreds of votes away, has confused me. Schilling is not the kind of guy who would take a snub well, so he's going to be an ass about it; but I do agree with him in thinking that he was not inferior to Smoltz.
Vinho Tinto said:
Smotlz' career was unique....not better, but much different from Schilling's in terms of shape and scope. Going from a tremendous starter to a tremendous closer and then back to a tremendous starter is a very interesting career arc that must have appealed to some Hall voters. I'm not saying he should have gotten in on the first ballot, and we know that closers are overrated in the big scheme of things, but that might explain why Smotlz got in so fast....voters thinking "Holy hell, he had TWO great baseball careers."
Vinho Tinto said:
Two big factors made the difference for Smoltz: saves and TBS. Lots of people saw lots of Smoltz thanks to the Braves run and the fact that it was on TBS nationwide. That and Smoltz is being rewarded for spending three years as a closer and racking up saves. Oh, and sad as it is, the fact that Smoltz is the only one of the three with a Cy Young on his mantle makes a difference with a lot of writers.
I think it's the closer angle (He's versatile! He dominated on both ends!), which is fairly dumb because I'd think most ace starters would have a ton of success as closers.
However, I also think he gets "rounded up" to Maddux/Glavine level. If he were the ace of an otherwise mediocre staff, I don't think he gets in on the first try. But he's a part of a HOF-level 3-headed monster, ergo the thinking is he must be HOF material. Likewise, I think if Schilling had pitched with RJ or Pedro for the majority of his career, he'd have cruised in as half of one of the greatest duos of all time.
However, I also think he gets "rounded up" to Maddux/Glavine level. If he were the ace of an otherwise mediocre staff, I don't think he gets in on the first try. But he's a part of a HOF-level 3-headed monster, ergo the thinking is he must be HOF material. Likewise, I think if Schilling had pitched with RJ or Pedro for the majority of his career, he'd have cruised in as half of one of the greatest duos of all time.
Hendu for Kutch said:
Those are good points. Smoltz also had 3 good years as a starter after his closer days.
They're close; and while I'm not certain that Smoltz is HoF caliber, I think the fact that he put in 17 full-and-good seasons puts him slightly ahead of Schilling, who had several cut-short seasons. (quick and dirty: Smoltz had 9 30-start seasons and 3 29's; schilling had 7 30's, a 29 and 2 26s.)
And while he wasn't quite Schilling's post-season equal, he was pretty damn good.
I think it was Verducci on MLBN yesterday who noted that the next couple years you don't have the influx of Hall-worthy starters like the past two years, which could really help Schilling get a spike in votes and get in.