Kirk and Callahan: Done
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John Marzano Olympic Hero said:
Apparently the screen capture of WEEI's facebook post from this morning: "The Red Sox are 10 games out in the AL East. Is it over? That's what we are discussing today on Dennis and Callahan."
Typical trolling by their social media people. It's comment baiting and people fall for it every time. Some commenters make their most idiotic callers sound like Mensa candidates.
Isn't that a fair question? I mean it can be phrased a lot of different ways. For example "The Red Sox are 10 games out in the AL East. Can they turn it around?" or "The Red Sox are 10 games out in the AL East. Who goes in the fire sale?"Red(s)HawksFan said:
But this basic question is being asked in a dozen or so threads on this site right now.
Yeah, I'm not sure why that is an unfair or trolling question. The Sox have lost six of seven, within the last month last 10 in a row (while also winning seven straight to be fair), their outfield is terrible and they're having the exact opposite season than last year. The B's are done, there are only so many Celtics trades you can make up and the Pats don't start for another six weeks. What do you expect them to talk about?
Unless you mean that the comments below the tweet are the offending part of post. I don't see them, but it wouldn't surprise me if they were shitty. It's people who like WEEI on FB, that's a special kind of moron, right there.
Unless you mean that the comments below the tweet are the offending part of post. I don't see them, but it wouldn't surprise me if they were shitty. It's people who like WEEI on FB, that's a special kind of moron, right there.
The idea that a ten game deficit in early June means "it's over" strikes me as patently absurd. Are the Sox in a world of shit right now? Absolutely. But there's no way you can reasonably state it's over.
RSN Diaspora said:
Currently the Red Sox are 29-35. Last year the American East leader needed to win 93 games to take the crown (the Sox won 97, but TB finished in second with 92). There are 98 games left, which means that Boston has to go 64-34 or play at a .653 clip the rest of the way to win the East (assuming that things fall into place like last year). If the Red Sox want to win one of the two wildcards, judging by last year's Wild Card Winners (Cleveland and Tampa Bay), the Sox would have to win at least 92 games. They'd have to go 63-35 or play at a .642 clip the rest of the way. And they have to climb over seven teams to do so.
This is complete back-of-the-envelope calculations using last year's numbers, but the point stands: do you think that the Boston Red Sox, as presently constituted could win at least 64% of the rest of their games? It's possible, but it's not probable. So, and while I feel dirty defending D&C*, this is not "patently absurd". In fact, it's statistically probable that the Boston Red Sox will not be playing in the post season this year.
* Defending these two is terrible, especially after listening to them essentially admit to a caller this morning that they're going to spend the next 30 days shitting on the World Cup. Callahan was ranting that the NYT and Deadspin are only getting behind soccer because "it's a cool thing to do" and "the rest of the world loves it" but they don't really like soccer. No one does. People just watch soccer to act cool and liberal and PC.
Trautwein's Degree said:
Please tell me John Dennis didn't say that. And wasn't Minnihane addicted to coke at one point in his life?
John Marzano Olympic Hero said:
It was Callahan. I heard Dennis point blank as him if addiction was a disease, and Callahan said no.
Didn't hear the addict talk, but the soccer talk I heard in five minutes of listening was even worse: It's apparently "politically correct" now to like soccer. In fact, they're tired of "soccer being shoved in your face" by PC types.
Further, if the World Cup was really so popular, it would happen more than once every four years.
Further, if the World Cup was really so popular, it would happen more than once every four years.
I like soccer and I really love the World Cup, so I don't get why people get their undies all in a twist over this. Does it really drive Gerry insane by skimming past a soccer article? How is it being "shoved down his throat". Is he so lazy that he can't change the channel?
I get that soccer hatred is part of his winning xenophobic, edgy, tough guy, real man, radio personality but I wonder if it really bothers him?
I get that soccer hatred is part of his winning xenophobic, edgy, tough guy, real man, radio personality but I wonder if it really bothers him?
I was going to say because he doesn't care about soccer, he probably doesn't realize the World Cup will receive good ratings and warrants extensive coverage. But really it's because he's a miserable old conservative "victim" who sees everything through his specific cultural lens.
John Marzano Olympic Hero said:
I was driving around lunch time today and even Gresh & Zo, who are 100% not soccer fans, had a full hour dedicated to listeners calling in and talking World Cup and asked callers to educate them on teams to look for, matches, players to watch etc. They said flat out we're not soccer people, but this is a huge interest of the sports world and a lot of listeners, so give us some stuff to watch for.
Or you can take the D&C route and blame soccer on hippies and liberals.
To be far, how can you avoid it? It's on NBC Sports and Fox Sports 1 / Fox Soccer. There's only 150 other stations that aren't covering it. So its being shoved down your throat.
I caught the last 10 minutes of Gresh and Zo and they really did seem thankful for the education they got today, a couple jokes here and there (Wait, who is my team Uruguay? Portugal...i forget already!) but they seemed like they enjoyed it.
PC Drunken Friar said:
That's cool that they did that. For as much credit as TSH got for talking hockey, in 2010 Felger and Mazz talked a lot of World Cup too, which impressed me. Mazz was a bit of a dick about it, but Felger seemed to enjoy it and would often tell Massarotti to shut up. I hope that they do it again this year.
EEI will never understand that being a sports bully never, ever works.
Hell, even Dale & Holley did a good amount of World Cup talk today. Dale also is a Breakfast with Gazza fan, FWIW.
But the contrast between D&C's attitude and the attitude of every other show* in the market is remarkable. Felger has done a bunch of World Cup talk (he really hates Klinsmann's 'lower your expectations' message) and while Mazz still treats it like he does everything else (i.e. contempt and apathy), they've dedicated whole segments to "here's why Jozy Altidore is important" and "Michael Bradley is the key to everything".
* Haven't heard T&R talk soccer but I can't imagine them being dismissive and disrespectful the way D&C have. Callahan is such a pinhead.
But the contrast between D&C's attitude and the attitude of every other show* in the market is remarkable. Felger has done a bunch of World Cup talk (he really hates Klinsmann's 'lower your expectations' message) and while Mazz still treats it like he does everything else (i.e. contempt and apathy), they've dedicated whole segments to "here's why Jozy Altidore is important" and "Michael Bradley is the key to everything".
* Haven't heard T&R talk soccer but I can't imagine them being dismissive and disrespectful the way D&C have. Callahan is such a pinhead.
In my opinion, it's hard to listen to WEEI because of D&C being so awful. They're abusive and bullies etc. They are the old school of WEEI and stand for everything that's wrong with the old WEEI.
If they ditched them, ditched their promos and put someone else in their place, I'd be able to listen to WEEI more. That'll never happen based upon ratings though.
If they ditched them, ditched their promos and put someone else in their place, I'd be able to listen to WEEI more. That'll never happen based upon ratings though.
Wait, he mentioned this on the show?soxfan121 said:
We really are the whitest, geekiest website on earth.
They've talked a little bit about it, but it's mostly been Ray Hudson stuff and saying "LOL WE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING"soxfan121 said:
No matter your personal take on the issue, listening to three white men talk about how they aren't offended by the name "Redskins" is simply terrible, terrible radio. A caller said that you wouldn't have a team named "Whiteskins or Blackskins" and Gerry said it wasn't the same thing.
In the four minutes I listened to this show yesterday and today (only when T&R are on commercial), I learned that only guilty liberals like soccer and heard a hysterical joke that "Anaheim Angels is offensive to dead people and Cowboys should be Cowmen." But Gerry reiterated both mornings that he hates the New York Times, so there was that.
In the four minutes I listened to this show yesterday and today (only when T&R are on commercial), I learned that only guilty liberals like soccer and heard a hysterical joke that "Anaheim Angels is offensive to dead people and Cowboys should be Cowmen." But Gerry reiterated both mornings that he hates the New York Times, so there was that.
I stopped listening to D&C several years back - despite the lack of options I'd had my fill of the politics, bullying, misogyny and general idiocy. Rather than tuning in now and then to see if anything's changed I can just check this thread. Apparently they haven't changed a thing and its a relief to learn that without having to spend a few minutes of my morning actually listening. So thanks
When I tuned in this morning the first words I heard were Denis saying "they haven't mobilized like the American Indians have." What the fuck? How does this bigot have a show. "Mobilized" is racist code. They then went on to say after "they" take away "Redskins" they'll go after violent names like "Pirates" and every team will be like "the Pelicans". Also "Padres" can't have that because it is religious.
In sum, fuck Kirk Minihane for prolonging their careers.
In sum, fuck Kirk Minihane for prolonging their careers.
SidelineCameras said:
I heard a bit of this today, Minnihane actually said, "If they named the team the Washington Crackers or Washington Honkies, I'd laugh. Then I'd move on with the rest of my life." These three are so god damn obtuse, yes. That's the entire problem. Native Americans are pissed about just the name. But Gerry Callahan got a hardon for Sonny Jorgensen when he was five-years-old, so the name should stick.
They kept saying, "It's just a name, what's the big deal?" If it's not a big deal than change the name. Who gives a shit. If names truly don't matter, let's change the "Dennis and Callahan Show" to "Dennis and the Klansman". Who cares, it's just a name? A shit by any other name would smell just as putrid.
And of course they had to go down the road of, "Once they take the Indian names, what's next? The Fighting Irish? The Celtics? Names that are violent?"
This all boils down to unless something specifically happens to them, it doesn't exist. Climate change? Fuck that, it snowed twice in February! The name Redskins offends other people? Fucking pussies, it doesn't bother me! The world love soccer, but I don't? They're all PC kiss asses, I hate soccer.
Listening to them for even three minutes is exhausting.
There is no logical non-racist way to defend using the term "Redskins" in 2014. None. Using whatever platform you have in life to defend use of the term "Redskins" makes you a racist. The fact that tuned in this morning supports those views. I can't have that. I'm done with these assholes. I'd rather listen to Mike and Mike on commercial than this.
jimv said:
I'm in the same boat. I have a short commute, only about 15 minutes, but listening to D&C for just those 15 minutes would get me so worked up and infuriated that I was starting every day in a bad mood. I finally quit listening to them (to be honest, I've sworn off all sports talk radio) over a year ago. I only tune into EEI or the Sports Hub for Red Sox or Patroits broadcasts. If there's no game on, I listen to my iPod exclusively and check this thread to see just how bad these ignorant, racist blowhards have gotten. Although I do wonder why any of you listen to them ever.
I feel bad for Chad Finn having to listen because it's part of his job. Sorry Chad, hope they get fired someday soon for the sake of your sanity.
Minihane is actually really disappointing on the Redskins issue. He's challenged the two dinosaurs on lots of issues and it almost made it listenable, especially with LGBT issues. He's done a good job of letting Callahan, especially, hoist himself.
But on this, he's just as bad as D&C: "When did everyone get so sensitive? I miss the good old days of All in the Family reruns! You could never have a show like that now!"
Embarrassing.
But on this, he's just as bad as D&C: "When did everyone get so sensitive? I miss the good old days of All in the Family reruns! You could never have a show like that now!"
Embarrassing.
T and r talked soccer for at least an hour today during the 8am hour and even had soccer experts schedule.URI said:
I wish the Sports Hub would expand to Hartford. WEEI is my only alternative to Mike and Mike arguing about whether or not Carmello going to the Heat is good for the league. I care more about Boston sports issues than national issues for the most part.
I use the radio.com app here in PA. Sportsradio is horrendous out here.Trautwein's Degree said:
Gerry came real close to getting booted from radio today.John Marzano Olympic Hero said:
While talking about changing the Redskins logo to make more money, he said, "Change the logo and make it all black so these...uh...these...kids can see how cool it is".
Do it, Gerry. Give into the dark side once on the air so we can be done with you.
Gerry tried to get into it with a Wampanoag tribe member by insinuating that he should have nothing to complain about because of the casinos. The Native guy was making great points all along but Gerry tried to manipulate and twist the narrative in his inimitable bigoted way, but I think the guy's phone line was bad and he was cut off.
Kenny F'ing Powers said:
I fucking despise sticking up for these guys. I rarely listen to the show but there are a ton of videos on youtube of college programs switching their uniforms to black and the kids go nuts. I didn't hear the comment but I'm sure that's what he meant. These videos have been all over TV clip shows.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAOfNEBZbE4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56eqcKa9zLo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvsO3q9pu-0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f6Eb-1WERM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxr-6n_DU8A
On Friday, Dale and Holley were talking about the strength of the World Cup ratings in Boston. They said with ratings this strong and local interest this high that local media has to cover the story. The Red Sox aren't interesting. Only so much trade talk they can do on the Celts and Bruins. And unless a Patriot goes homicidal, there's nothing to cover in Foxboro for the next month.
I hope the World Cup crushes D and C ratings.
I hope the World Cup crushes D and C ratings.
That is wonderful to read, good for Dale and Holley.
The thing is, not everyone needs to like every sport, let alone pretend to be an expert on it. You don't have to like soccer if you don't want to, even if you host a sports show. But to sit around and shit on it, whine that it's being "shoved down our throats" (Dennis' exact words) and claim that the only Americans who like it are doing so out of some sort of liberal white guilt, is completely asinine and ignorant.
The thing is, not everyone needs to like every sport, let alone pretend to be an expert on it. You don't have to like soccer if you don't want to, even if you host a sports show. But to sit around and shit on it, whine that it's being "shoved down our throats" (Dennis' exact words) and claim that the only Americans who like it are doing so out of some sort of liberal white guilt, is completely asinine and ignorant.
D&C want you to know that soccer is irrelevant.
Which is why they spend four hours talking about it.
Which is why they spend four hours talking about it.
The World Cup is a giant opportunity for those in sports media. There's interest and not a ton of knowledge. One of the challenges of being on the air for 20 hours a week is simply filling airtime. Instead of railing against the World Cup, bring on a few guests to talk about it.
If you're a host, admit your ignorance and ask Joe Everyman kind of questions. Ask about the US, the stars, the best matches and fill an hour. There's a lot of low hanging fruit that's tastier than talking about renaming the Washington Football team.
If you're a host, admit your ignorance and ask Joe Everyman kind of questions. Ask about the US, the stars, the best matches and fill an hour. There's a lot of low hanging fruit that's tastier than talking about renaming the Washington Football team.
http://www.boston.com/sports/touching_all_the_bases/2014/06/boston_delivers_second-highest_ratings_of_any_us_city_for_br.html
There's the link from Chad Finn. Boston did a 5 share in the Brazil - Croatia opener. Hartford, Providence both in the top ten markets.
Instead of broadcasting live from downtown Framingham and trying to open new markets, these morons are complaining about soccer and mobilizing Native Americans.
There's the link from Chad Finn. Boston did a 5 share in the Brazil - Croatia opener. Hartford, Providence both in the top ten markets.
Instead of broadcasting live from downtown Framingham and trying to open new markets, these morons are complaining about soccer and mobilizing Native Americans.
They can't seem to comprehend this notion of "dual citizenship". Aron Jóhannsson's hometown is in Iceland. How does that work?
It was on for two minutes before I put on the podcast this morning: Wrapping up with Brad Faxon, they transitioned into a discussion of why Minihane thinks Wie is hotter than Gulbis, how pro women's short game is "awful," with a wrap up involving Minihane particularly liking the way Wie bends over when she putts.
It's the lowest of the low.
It's the lowest of the low.