Joe Buck Show/Artie Lange/Mike Francesa/and now...Chris Russo

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Joe Buck has a show. A horrible show. Artie Lange came on and went waaaay over the line of appropriateness.

But what else would Joe Buck have expected?

Buck and HBO ripped Lange in the papers today. Lange fired back, indicating that he was told to "go crazy" by HBO management and was hugged following the taping my Joe Buck.

Here is a video clip of last night's show:



Here is a video clip of the follow-up show, which only aired on the internet:



Lange ended up ripping apart Buck and HBO this AM on Stern, angry that they are selling him out given that they, according to him, encouraged him to go where he did.

Mike Francesa then ripped the show, Buck, and Lange



FWIW...I think that you get what you get when you book Artie Lange. Nothing he did surprised me. That said, he did seem to be more mean spirited than you would otherwise expect.
 

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The segment with Artie Lang was brutally uncomfortable, and as I don't care for Joe Buck, hilarious. I would pay good money to hear what Paul Rudd and to a lesser extent Jason Sudekis were thinking during this exchange. It appeared to me that Buck was hoping Rudd, who he's known since he was 18, would bail him out a little more. Overall, it seemed that no one, especially Joe Buck, knew what to do with Artie Lang once he started ranting and Artie took that as a green light. My personal favorite was that every time Buck had some retort, he was verbally eviscerated by Lang. Fox broadcasts would be so much more entertaining if Lang take over for McCarver and Aikman as Buck's partner.
 

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Wow, that was really weird.

I think there is a HUGE difference between what the producers meant when they told Lange to "Go Crazy" and for Lange to start talking about sucking cock and jerking off.

But then again, what the hell did the producers that booked him expect? Had they never heard his act before?
 

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Usually those "oh the guy just got us yanked off the air with his zaniness!" things are usually obvious overstatements, but hopefully not this time. This guy didn't even have chemistry interviewing someone he'd known for over 30 years.
 

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Artie's best (and most observant) dig at Buck came when Buck told him to take his feet off the desk. Artie: "I'm getting comfortable. Someone should look natural on this show."
 

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Artie has been 'sober' for about 3 months now. On the Stern show, this has meant that he won't shut the hell up. I'm a huge Artie fan, but he's definitely been struggling with finding his 'sober niche'.

I'm on the fence about last night...I can't stand Joe Buck but Artie was also unbelievably inappropriate. He could have been as cutting and funny if he was 50 percent less crass. But this seems to be the direction that Artie has taken as he 'gets his life together'.

Whatever the case, it was a fascinating and entertaining appearance.
 

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Up until Lange came on, it was one of the more boring shows I've ever watched. And that last segment Buck had that was framed after Bill Maher's "New Rules" was also atrocious. I mean, just the name, "I don't want to hyperventilate" (or something like that) seems like it was thought of 5 seconds before air-time.

Then when Lange did come on, it turned incredibly uncomfortable. But as others have said, what did Buck/the producers expect? Why else have Lange come out there? The panel was pointless, and the show was pointless, so rather than be involved in a pointless production, Lange decided to just crap on everything. Which may have not been professional, but that's Artie's act. Again, the producers of the show should know that.
 

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That show was awful.

How can you have Michael Irvin and Chad Ochocinco on stage and wind up with 15 minutes of boring benign pap?

Artie's rant was super uncomfortable, but will probably wind up a 'no publicity is bad puclicity' positive for the show.
 

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As a regular Stern listener I offer these observations :
- I absolutely don't think Lange is sober.
- I think Lange is a hack. He's been using the same material for 5 years, the vast majority written by other guys, and he literally reuses the same stuff, word for word, over and over in his standup and appearances. His book is another scam.
- Joe Buck isn't cut out for this type of format. I'm not a fan of his anyways.

I think HBO wanted 'Costas Now' with this and got a really shitty show instead.
 

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I don't love Artie as much as I did when I was younger, but as a listener of the Stern show and somebody who was forced to watch Joe Buck Live because Artie was appearing, I found Artie's appearance the only remotely entertaining part of this show.

I don't particularly like Joe Buck, so perhaps that's why I found it funny.
 

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Joe Buck is fucking scum and this comes from someone who doesn't think he's a half-bad announcer.

He's the phoniest of phonies in an industry filled with phonies.
 
QUOTE (Sea Bass Neely @ Jun 16 2009, 01:38 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2362167
As a regular Stern listener I offer these observations :
- I absolutely don't think Lange is sober.
- I think Lange is a hack. He's been using the same material for 5 years, the vast majority written by other guys, and he literally reuses the same stuff, word for word, over and over in his standup and appearances. His book is another scam.
- Joe Buck isn't cut out for this type of format. I'm not a fan of his anyways.

I think HBO wanted 'Costas Now' with this and got a really shitty show instead.


Couldn't agree more. I've been a diehard Stern listener for nearly 20 years and I've been listening to Artie since his first day in the "Jackie Chair". The guy really contributed a lot to the show after settling in, but he has been an absolute mess the last few years. The on again off again heroin addictions along with his overeating and alcoholism has really taken a toll on the guy. He has lost 60 lbs the past three months and will not stop interrupting and talking over Howard and the other guests on the show. He's a train wreck and is clearly on cocaine or some sort of speed drug. Everything he says is so obviously a half truth or a bold faced lie.

That said, he made Joe Buck's horrible show "interesting". Of course if he peed on the carpet and performed a late term abortion live on air it would be "interesting" too. He is getting lots of publicity but he is a one trick pony at this point and what is left of his career will only spiral downward if he can't get clean.

But what do I know...I find Eric the Midget entertaining.
 

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I expected so much more after seeing all the post-show fuss. Meh.

Did he ever light his cigarette? Seems like that was worrying Buck the most.
 

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I happend to stumble across this show right as this segment began and stuck around because Artie was a guest. It was riveting television. A couple of thoughts:

- Buck clearly was caught off guard and had no idea how to reign Artie in.
- It didn't look like Buck prepared at all for that segment. I was expecting some (any) sports related questions but all Buck was able to pull out was: So Paul, what's it like to be followed by TMZ? So Paul, we have known each other for a while. So Jason, you went to high school with Paul? It was like watching three people catch up at a high school reunion. Given that it's been a week after the NBA and NHL champions were crowned, there were plenty sports related topics to discuss.
- Buck lowered himself to Artie's level. The host shouldn't be insulting the guest especially when the guest is a stand up comic. It just egged Artie on.
- Listening to Stern lately, this seems to be Artie's MO. He goes out of his way to attack the guests. It is funny every now and then, but it is pretty tired at this point. Artie is great in two ways: telling stories and chiming in with one-liners. Giving him total control is a mistake.
- I think Rudd was extremely amused by Artie. I also think that Sudekis had the best line of the night when Artie said, "You won't be in any big time movies anytime soon." Sudekis shot back with, "At least I still have a shot."
 

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QUOTE (Jody Reeds Well @ Jun 17 2009, 10:58 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2363613
I happend to stumble across this show right as this segment began and stuck around because Artie was a guest. It was riveting television. A couple of thoughts:

- Buck clearly was caught off guard and had no idea how to reign Artie in.
- It didn't look like Buck prepared at all for that segment. I was expecting some (any) sports related questions but all Buck was able to pull out was: So Paul, what's it like to be followed by TMZ? So Paul, we have known each other for a while. So Jason, you went to high school with Paul? It was like watching three people catch up at a high school reunion. Given that it's been a week after the NBA and NHL champions were crowned, there were plenty sports related topics to discuss.


That, in a nutshell, was the problem. Buck shut down. And when he tried to get in again he hadn't prepared at all. It seemed like he hadn't talked to Sudekis or Rudd backstage -- he didn't know that they hadn't overlapped in high school, didn't know which sports teams they rooted for, didn't work with them beforehand to develop a story they could tell on air (about their first attendance of a football game or something)... I mean, seriously?

If Rudd's a Royals fan, talk to him about Greinke. Tell a story from your broadcasting days about a horrible game in Kansas City. C'MON! Do SOMETHING.

The thing is, I think Buck started to try to go toe to toe and take control back, then it seemed like he realized he couldn't win that way. Artie wouldn't stop, and the more they traded barbs the more off color Artie's were. Yikes.

QUOTE (Jody Reeds Well @ Jun 17 2009, 10:58 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2363613
- I think Rudd was extremely amused by Artie. I also think that Sudekis had the best line of the night when Artie said, "You won't be in any big time movies anytime soon." Sudekis shot back with, "At least I still have a shot."


I don't think Rudd was necessarily amused, I think he saw that this was a trainwreck and -- now that his career's taking off and he's making a ton of money in comedies -- wanted no part of it.

I thought Artie was pretty pathetic with the "I'll be making 80 grand and you'll be making 11 dollars an hour on SNL" but Sudekis's "Do you have to crawl all the way out of Howard's butt to do it?" comeback was weak too.
 

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Finally got a chance to check the DVR and see what all the hubbub was about:

1) If this was the comedy central roast of Jack Buck, Artie Lange did a perfect job.
2) Whoever hire Artie Lange is an idiot if s/he didn't think he was going to be like that.
3) The incident with Artie was the single highlight of the show. It was terrible all around.
4) Buck egged him on shortly into his schtick and told Artie he was ruining the show. Buck had already ruined the show by completely sucking.

I've never been a big Artie (or Howard) fan, but I tried to watch this to give him the blame but I really think Joe Buck ruined his own show by sucking, plain and simple.
 

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Posted this elsewhere: "Never mind, it's up on Huffington Post. Boy was that uncomfortable. Buck didn't do himself any favors by completely losing control of the situation. I'll say it again, can't beleive this guy got a show on HBO. It was bad enough when Costas was on, he was boring and his guests were a parade of retreads from the 'Good Ol' Days,' but at least he had some clout, and could throw some weight around in an interview. But Buck is boring and a journalistic lightweight. If Buck had interviewed Vince McMahon, Vince probably would have body slammed him and thrown him through the set wall."
 

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QUOTE (Sea Bass Neely @ Jun 16 2009, 02:38 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2362167
As a regular Stern listener I offer these observations :
- I absolutely don't think Lange is sober.
- I think Lange is a hack. He's been using the same material for 5 years, the vast majority written by other guys, and he literally reuses the same stuff, word for word, over and over in his standup and appearances. His book is another scam.
- Joe Buck isn't cut out for this type of format. I'm not a fan of his anyways.

I think HBO wanted 'Costas Now' with this and got a really shitty show instead.


I always liked Lange on the Stern show. I thought he offered some "everyman" perspective and was damn funny. He had a pretty good take on sports, genuinely loves the Skanks, loves to gamble, and could hold his own with sports related guests and topics.

The last year or so, he has been absolutely awful. Between his heroin addiction, his so called rehabs, and some really uncomfortable lying on the show, his act is worn.

I agree with you, his most recent sober stretch is total bull. He is hopped up on something.

If he is sober, then he has unmasked a true inner asshole that is mean spirited and not really funny. He has been terrible interacting with the guests. He was not like this a few years ago. He was more subtle and funnier, with a touch of good nature.

The racism and homophobia are out of control and not really funny. Just mean. When he gets called on it, "Hey I'm Italian, I'm from Jersey"

It must work in his stand up act, but on the show, with Stern, he really has become a negative.

The last few days have been Artie defending his Joe Buck appearance. Like the Joe Buck show, Stern's show has become boring.
 

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Uh oh....



We've just learned Artie Lange was busted for suspicion of DUI moments ago in New Jersey.

Law enforcement sources tell us the "Howard Stern Show" veteran was arrested about a half hour ago in Toms River after he got into a minor car accident.

Story developing...

From TMZ
 

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Well shit, I guess I didn't read every thread on this board to see if there was a Joe Buck one around that someone else posted the day before.
 

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santadevil said:
Well shit, I guess I didn't read every thread on this board to see if there was a Joe Buck one around that someone else posted the day before.
Stop digging up 5 year old threads that basically have nothing to do with your topic. Create a new one.
 

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richgedman'sghost said:
Stop digging up 5 year old threads that basically have nothing to do with your topic. Create a new one.
 
Ya, I think Lose hit the post before it.
Way to jump in the pile afterward though. Keep it classy.
 

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Ya, I think Lose hit the post before it.
Way to jump in the pile afterward though. Keep it classy.