this is a very good question. this pick is likely to be very close in value to the pats' own 2018 1st, so either the pats weren't willing to be without a first next year, or they are going after someone who would cost multiple good picks.
just that they don't need to trade Jimmy to trade those picks, unless they were unwilling to part with them, or the other team basically wanted a first and might settle for a very high 2nd.
It's not clear to me the Pats did worse than had they traded him pre-draft. And they got half a season of insurance.
Hoyer is a pretty comfortably above average backup quarterback, which is the role available on the Patriots.
There were "reports" that they wold be trading the pick for a DL and we know those are always accurate.
I dont even know if he is above average but he is definitely an average backup at worst, which is a lot better than we have on the roster right now.
Well last year's "special teams linebacker" that they brought in wore the fucking dot this week on defense, so I kinda trust the evil genius. Frankly, I'm kinda hoping that it's someone that we never heard of.
Which makes sense because extending him was always going to be smarter than franchising him, but was always was going to be hard give cap constraints and the inability to offer a starting position.
Another thing. They sent him to an NFC team with a fuckton of cap space, in an amazing city, with a promising GM/HC duo with 6 year contracts. He's not going to Denver or like places. They are free to call, of course, but I'll take my chances on SF winning any bidding war.
That may happen but there are tweets in this thread saying Hoyer was initially included in this trade until comp picks were considered. Essentially, that means Hoyer was going no matter what happened. He has been released and it's almost certain the Pats grab him.
Are you people insane?
Yea, I meant that in a good way. They know who is out there and who fits where. And its unlikely I have any idea who they are.
Uh...ya sure about Tebow?
I guess the question is whether a high second rounder is worth another 8 weeks of insurance. It doesn't seem obvious to me. If the Patriots had concluded that their team is very unlikely to win the Super Bowl with Jimmy G, and they aren't going to resign him, then it's on one hand a free second rounder. But the real cost to me is the risk that Brady takes a non-season-ending knock. The cost of this second rounder to the Patriots is the delta between Jimmy and whoever they sign, if say Brady takes a knock and has to miss two division games, or has to spend a series in concussion testing in a wild card game, etc. At 6-2 -- good enough to be a real contender but certainly not in such good position that we don't have to worry about say Buffalo -- the cost here is not negligible.
The Browns wouldnt offer their second round pick??
They remain deeply embedded in their analytics and trying to get something for nothing.
So, to recap, in the last 2 years the Browns have passed on:
I wonder if they’re talking about this on Browns message boards and if so, what they think.
How good would any of them look with the Browns' weapons. Houston has great skill players. Philly has a solid receiving corps.
Dunno. But I’d bet there are a few Cleveland fans who would have liked the opportunity to find out.
I am having a hard time grasping whom Tyrone thinks the Pats back-up should be and I, for one, would like more clarity on that topic, Dogman. Like the rest of the NFL, you are trying to blackball not Kaepernick but Kaepernick talk too. Free Colin! Free Colin! Free Tyrone too!
one thing in the interview that disappointed me... Brady was asked if he’d spoken yet to Garropolo and said he hadn’t. I thought he actually sounded a little cold about it.
