Jimmy G to 49ers for 2nd round pick
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I highly doubt the Patriots sign Kaepernick. They bring in players to workout all the time. Granted, bringing in Kaepernick for a workout before today would have drawn a lot of attention, and therefore if they had interest in him perhaps there's an argument that can be made that they did not want to bring him in for a workout due to the ensuing circus it would have created. However, I don't see them signing a player who hasn't been on a field since last December without a workout.
I believe this is the first shoe to drop, and that the pick they acquired may be used in a package to bring in a player before the deadline tomorrow. Maybe a linebacker or a DE.
I believe this is the first shoe to drop, and that the pick they acquired may be used in a package to bring in a player before the deadline tomorrow. Maybe a linebacker or a DE.
Which means pray for Solder, Thuney, Andrews, Mason, Cannon, and Waddle’s health.
Consider these factors
--Pats were never going to have 2 big money contracts at QB.
--Brady showing no signs of decline.
--Pats need desperately to restock the top end talent on the roster.
--SF needs a QB
You add them up and this makes sense. If Pats keep the pick, they'll get a 1st round talent for a player that had no impact on the current team besides handling a clipboard. I'll take that deal any day.
--Pats were never going to have 2 big money contracts at QB.
--Brady showing no signs of decline.
--Pats need desperately to restock the top end talent on the roster.
--SF needs a QB
You add them up and this makes sense. If Pats keep the pick, they'll get a 1st round talent for a player that had no impact on the current team besides handling a clipboard. I'll take that deal any day.
Crazy notion: might the Pats throw the Vikings a 5th for Teddy Bridgewater? I remember New England brought him in when he was a super-touted draft prospect they had zero need for, "just because".
What this tells you for certain in that Giselle is not in charge of when Tom retires and he isn't anytime soon (save some bad injury)
This is a weird weird turn of events. For all the reasons already mentioned in the thread...
That said, Kaepernick being available is a serious mental exercise in BB thought processes. On one hand, BB will take someone with a reputation under the premise that he can contribute or be cut loose. He's got a history here with Dillon, Moss, etc. On the other hand, he avoid players who are will be a distraction like the plague. Ocho came here and reverted to being the athlete formerly known as Johnson. Martellus came here and basically kept things quite while be harmlessly entertaining for the media. Is Kaepernick capable of turning off the noise and just playing football?
Damn the possibilities are endless.
To those saying Kaepernick is the best QB available - he may not be the best QB available to the Pats given Hoyer is now free. But if the Patriots wanted him - why wasn't he included in the trade? Can they sign him to a minimum contract that is less than what SF was paying him?
Seriously, mental gymnastics enough here to cause a headache...
That said, Kaepernick being available is a serious mental exercise in BB thought processes. On one hand, BB will take someone with a reputation under the premise that he can contribute or be cut loose. He's got a history here with Dillon, Moss, etc. On the other hand, he avoid players who are will be a distraction like the plague. Ocho came here and reverted to being the athlete formerly known as Johnson. Martellus came here and basically kept things quite while be harmlessly entertaining for the media. Is Kaepernick capable of turning off the noise and just playing football?
Damn the possibilities are endless.
To those saying Kaepernick is the best QB available - he may not be the best QB available to the Pats given Hoyer is now free. But if the Patriots wanted him - why wasn't he included in the trade? Can they sign him to a minimum contract that is less than what SF was paying him?
Seriously, mental gymnastics enough here to cause a headache...
Love it.
I'll love it even more if BB picks up hoyer for free since the 49ers might cut him now.
I'll love it even more if BB picks up hoyer for free since the 49ers might cut him now.
There’s nothing that suggests he has 3-4 more years. We’ll be lucky if he’s league-average at 42/43. This is a baffling and insane move when you’ve onsider how difficult it is to find a long-term quality starter in the NFL.
Vikings still consider Teddy their starter of the future if he can get healthy.
Yes. His vet status means that if he's cut he doesn't have to go on waivers so he's free to sign anywhere.
He’s maybe a week or two away from being their starter of their likely playoff team too.
that is underatable but beyond 2018 can brady be the same qb jimmy g wouild had kept u top 5 even after brady is gone because if u have no qb like denver does the best u can do is 7-9 8-8 even so waiting utill march was the best move this is saying gilmore was a bad move because now u will fran butler and will he want to be in ne past 2018
Thanks. Makes sense now. And without putting him in the deal means the Pats aren't responsible for any part of the contract he signed with SF, true?
Shrewd. Now Pats sign Kaep who agrees to drop his suit if every team that didn't sign him is forced to forfeit a first rounder. 49ers finish dead last and we own the first two picks in the draft.
I kinda figured BB would find a way to land the top three picks (or at least three of the top five), but I'm okay with this.
I kinda figured BB would find a way to land the top three picks (or at least three of the top five), but I'm okay with this.
Oddly makes sense to me. They kept him for eight games into the regular season - eight valuable games of insurance and were able to move him for what (apparently) they would have gotten for him eight games ago.
Maximizes value to the team. Twas. Ever. Thus.
Maximizes value to the team. Twas. Ever. Thus.
There's absolutely no way of proving that. If Bill thought Jimmy G was Tom Brady 2.0, he wouldn't have traded him.
I don't follow CFB closely but apparently Darnold's stock is dropping a bit. And Niners have tons of cap room, won't be good for another year or two, so I think the logic here would be if you really think a guy is the guy, it's worth it. Plus no guarantee you get the pick.
Yeah, what paulinmyrbeach said -- he's got $6 million left on his contract. Presumably, the Patriots didn't want to pay that much. Or they don't want him.
I can’t pin the tweet but someone just posted (blue check) that cutting Hoyer means the Pats don’t have to take on the prorated portion ($3M) contract. Can sign him for minimum.
Saying with certainty Brady will be league average in 2 years ignores way to much information. Hell, he should be league average now and he isn't. He is the best QB in the league right now and showing zero signs of anything different. Posting over and over that the team mortgaged the future does nothing here. Want to analyze? Do so with evidence based info and draw conclusions.
Drewdawg, move along. Engaging H78 and baiting isn't helping anything.
More cap room when? Probably less cap room this year. Someone will replace Jimmy on the 53 (almost certainly a new QB) who will be more highly paid than he was.
Next year, theoretically if you think they were going to sign him but they never were (as we now know).
shanny wants a ruining qb his dad still watches all of SF practice idk why if i was jimmy i wouild be eyeing minnteota in 2018
This is a joke right? Both are questionable at best as NFL starters. One is surrounded by media controversy and has no experience in your system. The other has years of experience with your offense. And without the benefit of training camp and preseason games you’d choose Kaepernick? That’s just plain old stupid.
If you think they should pick kap for moral or righteous reasons than fine I guess. But from a football point of view that’s just stupid.
This case was made many times this offseason. It makes complete logical sense. If I was running the Pats as a Front Office Football franchise, this is what I would do.
The flaw in this plan is, and always has been, that Tom Brady is a special case. He’s had the greatest career in NFL history. Bob Kraft considers him a son. The Patriots simply weren’t going to shove him out the door when he was still playing well. Never mind after another MVP caliber season where he’s the teams most indispensable player. Add in that BB has a somewhat short shelf life as coach, and it just was never going to happen. If they weren’t moving on from Brady after this year, there weren’t good options for keeping Jimmy G.
Still somewhat arguable whether the difference between a second round pick and a comp pick is worth giving up eight games worth of injury insurance given the importance of the position.
one of them sucks wild ass, the other had a better QBR in his last season than like half the starters in the league today. your politics are showing.
Yes, it's a joke. I frequently perfect my stand-up routines on sports message boards.
One has actual physical tools, lead his team to a Super Bowl, and is still young enough to have some upside. The other is 32-years-old and has shown, over and over, to be horrendously mediocre at best and is most adept as positioning a team for the #1 pick.
I don't give a rat's ass about the "media controversy" and I can't see why Bill would. It's not like Kaep is a DV offender or something actually horrible.
And Kaepernick (theoretically) wouldn't be starting and would be prepared by the coaches. Hoyer has shown you what he is.