Sometimes I feel like the three of them have some secret agreement what will decide when it is the "End" and what will be the course of action, like three business men creating the exit plan when starting a joint business venture, and we will never know about it until TB12 publishes the all-telling book in his 50's.
Cromulent ... is that a real word?
Right. Brissett was a logical pick last year with Brady's suspension requiring a 3rd QB on the roster while providing additional insurance for a Jimmy G trade. He had a role on last seasons team and won us a game proving BB correct. He had no role on this team and even with the Jimmy G trade you (presumably) have Hoyer to step in.
This is a great post. I hadn't before thought of the idea that in pre-season, we figured we might have a SB chance even without Brady, whereas now halfway in, we are certain that we don't. That would certainly be sufficient explanation for this trade, and it jibes with what we're seeing on the field, too.
Can we start a thread where people just list that they claim they will stop watching football, be it for CTE, Deflategate, the owners being scum, Goodell being an ass, BB/Brady retiring, etc? Just, like, for posterity? Because that would be really fun to revisit when 90% of the people are still in game threads or commenting in this subforum.
With a GM and HC in the first year of 6-year deals, THE most cap space entering 2018, and a ton of draft picks, they are ideally positioned to make the best possible decision.
Now that Rogers is done for the year I'm down to watching Brady. I full well admit to being hypocritical on this, but when they're gone so am I.
Just asking, but what are the odds that by the time Brady & Rodgers are gone (2+ years or so at least), that Newton, Wilson, Watson, et al have had enough time to entice you with their in-their-prime greatness? Isn't that how it works?
Yeah, sorry, me foruming by phone is an adventure in hilarity. You should read my Facebook posts during three martini luncheons. (I need to shut off autocorrect on the damned phone as it doesn't seem to recognize the other spellings of the name.)
"Told TB relationship with BB not great and all his loyalty is too Mr Kraft."
Strange source.
I wouldn’t doubt it but I disagree about your second point. BB is about winning first and last. He’d have loved the opportunity with Jimmy G except he’s stuck dealing with Brady to win 1-2 more. Rough deck he was dealt.
That may have been BB's fervent wish, and maybe, (maybe! and deep down) he would not have been too broken up if Brady had started to show his age. But he didn't, and here we are. Move JG now, with a pretty good return (a top 35 pick next year), and TB is still among the top 5 QBs in the league.
Why wouldn't Brady want the same thing and leave after this yr?
Maybe they both hate each other so much that Brady wanted to leave for his hometown Niners and BB hate-traded JG there to torpedo that and spite Brady. Both were so blinded by hatred and the desire to leave the other that they're now stuck together to chase 2-3 more rings.
Bracketing the local soap opera, being a fan of a team and learning that the HC and FO aren’t on the same page on QB and are quietly feuding about it in the press has to be really disheartening.
Agreed. Sure, it is possible---but it's spectacularly unlikely given everything we've seen for 16 years from all three of the people involved.
Agreed. Seems pretty clear they tried hard over a lengthy period to extend JG, and he said no. Schefter’s report rings true.
I would not be surprised if the source is Brady's father. He has said in multiple interviews over the entire run that BB will not let emotion get in the way of the right decision and could trade Brady.
I do kind of think the Pats should have gotten an extra pick, but yeah, it was either keep Jimmy until the end of the year and maybe get a comp pick eventually (?) or trade him.
Yeah “Money is no object” handwave with random “they could extend these players” half solutions and no mention of the biggest problem: they still would have had to sign Jimmy on the open market after franchising him
I don’t think they should restructure his contract. The only way to do so productively is to extend Brady into his age 43 season with a giant cap number. Pats should just try to let it play out and see if Brady will do a Tim Wakefield year to year thing. Or at least wait until after next season to address an extension.
Good god, that Volin article is 10 pounds of stupid in a 5 pound bag.
I suppose if he could grasp the concept of opportunity cost, effective return on resources, and marginal utility, he'd probably be something other than a sportswriter (there are, of course, notable sportswriter exceptions, but his is not a very enlightened profession).
The first part of this fits with the timing of the trade and Belichick's comments - if the Patriots were trying to find a way to get both Brady and Garoppolo under contract for 2018 / 2019 / whatever, asking Brady for a restructure would make sense. If Brady balked at that (and really, who could blame him), it makes sense that he might think he would be the one getting the ride out of a town.
I'm glad you brought this back up -- I feared someone would immediately attack me as "OH GREAT LET'S START DEBATING WHAT GOLF REPORTERS ARE GOSSIPING ABOUT" if I had.
