Jeter: The Final Weekend
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Jeter confirms non-story. He will play out the 2014 schedule.
http://m.yankees.mlb.com/news/article/93422570/barry-m-bloom-derek-jeter-plans-to-play-in-final-games-at-fenway-park
http://m.yankees.mlb.com/news/article/93422570/barry-m-bloom-derek-jeter-plans-to-play-in-final-games-at-fenway-park
Damn.terrynever said:
I had real hope for a while there. My buddy has tickets to the next to last game and we're both dreading overlong, overdone salutes to the long lasting, personality free shortstop of our rival.
This is good news for me. I have Friday night tickets for sale and am hoping the large student population In Boston that calls NY home will want to buy these premium-priced tickets to see one of the last games of his career.
Even as a Red Sox fan, with the Yankees safely out of the playoffs, I was rooting for Jeter to get that hit last night. What a great ending to a great career.
It also helps that having the 1918 thing off our backs, I find Baltimore and Tampa Bay fans to be far more annoying than Yankee fans.
It also helps that having the 1918 thing off our backs, I find Baltimore and Tampa Bay fans to be far more annoying than Yankee fans.
I tried, lord knows I tried. In the second inning the fans started the Der-ek Jet-er chant, and I did Nomar's better, which got a few laughs, but that was all.
Yanks didn't take BP tonight, and Jeter arrived around 5:30 and walked right by me. I called BSL and told her he has no odor at all, except perhaps a light smell of machine oil.
Yanks didn't take BP tonight, and Jeter arrived around 5:30 and walked right by me. I called BSL and told her he has no odor at all, except perhaps a light smell of machine oil.
I predict that Jeter hits a home run in his final AB on Sunday, a 350-foot fly ball into the Monster Seats off a grooved change up from Buccholz. Derek spits at the press box before touching home plate, refuses to tip his cap to the crowd or even come out for an encore. Stephen King writes a short story headlined "Hub Fans Bid Jeter Adieu." He reveals that Jeter is an android devoid of human emotion.
Shaugnhessy writes a column headlined "Jeter bid Hub fans a deuce" .where he retells the moment as Jeter approaches the plate for his last at-bat, and he moons the crowd and drops a #2
Peter Abraham writes a column about how Jeter and CHB get into a fatal car accident (Jeter heading west, CHB making a left on red) on Route 9, each of them on their way to The Container Store trying to find a container to hold their respective egos.
I'm a Red Sox fan from New Jersey born in the same hospital as Jeter. He's always been my favorite non-Red Sox player and he's the consummate professional. Baseball will have a huge void to fill with Jeter's a sense. I'll never forget his bloodied face, diving catch at Fenway. I hope he ends up in the broadcast booth after his retirement. I'm glad to have grown up watching one of the game's all time greats.
Cheers were not as loud and sustained today as I expected, perhaps tomorrow.
Jeter did cover about as much defensive ground as usual today, though.
Jeter did cover about as much defensive ground as usual today, though.
ponchsox said:
I believe that too. Grew up a Mets fan, in a Yankee family, adopted the Sox after moving to NE and waiting a few years. For all the Yankee-hate I have I still like The Captain, he always played the game well, never was juiced as far as I can tell, never got involved in come big off-field drama, and after about a decade I knew I was seeing a "legendary Yankee". After his SNL point/counterpoint he won me over. Give it to the guy, My Grandfather loved him, his son loved him, his son's son never knew baseball without him, and his son's son's son saw him play and will hear about him the rest of his life. That's baseball as it was, rare enough nowadays.
What diving catch? All I saw is a catch on the run in FAIR TERRITORY that his momentum carried him into the stands.ponchsox said:
I thought the ceremony was well done, if a bit long. The boots (gift) were ridiculous, as was the RE2PECT sign "from the Monster", and it was too bad the Not-Aretha's microphone cord got tangled so she couldn't get all the way to Jeter. I was told the Sox tried to get Aretha herself but she was booked elsewhere, and the substitute was pretty good.
50% Yankee fans yesterday (30-35% Friday, 25% or so Saturday), mostly well behaved. I kept the "should have gotten him flying lessons" joke to myself as they did not react well to my trying "Nomar's Better" to the "Derek Jeeter" chants.
At least this is over with. Last Jeter at bat, probably the last Ichiro Yankee at bat, last Ross at bat, and hopefully last Lavarnway at bat, too.
50% Yankee fans yesterday (30-35% Friday, 25% or so Saturday), mostly well behaved. I kept the "should have gotten him flying lessons" joke to myself as they did not react well to my trying "Nomar's Better" to the "Derek Jeeter" chants.
At least this is over with. Last Jeter at bat, probably the last Ichiro Yankee at bat, last Ross at bat, and hopefully last Lavarnway at bat, too.
Well, since the Jeter retirement thread is now locked, I figured I'll post here.
I was reading the Grantland article about Bruce Bochy and it mentions Jeter being a Hall of Famer, which I don't disagree with.
However, the piece was titled, Good-Bye, Mr. November. I watched the video embed in it and then realized I should look at those stats in November as well.
I know, SSS and all, but still, if you're going to earn a positive nickname, you should have something bigger to back it up with.
So it turns out that Mr. November, batted 3-12 (.250) in November, with a HR to win Game 4 (Mr. November!) and two singles. Slugged .500.
He also K'd 4 times and walked 0 times.
Take away the Home Run and it's fairly ugly out there. 2-11 (.181), slugging .181.
4 K's and a combined WPA of -.141.
Other than the Home Run, Jeter was really useless in November to the Yanks.
Especially since they lost to the Diamondbacks that year.
I was reading the Grantland article about Bruce Bochy and it mentions Jeter being a Hall of Famer, which I don't disagree with.
However, the piece was titled, Good-Bye, Mr. November. I watched the video embed in it and then realized I should look at those stats in November as well.
I know, SSS and all, but still, if you're going to earn a positive nickname, you should have something bigger to back it up with.
So it turns out that Mr. November, batted 3-12 (.250) in November, with a HR to win Game 4 (Mr. November!) and two singles. Slugged .500.
He also K'd 4 times and walked 0 times.
Take away the Home Run and it's fairly ugly out there. 2-11 (.181), slugging .181.
4 K's and a combined WPA of -.141.
Other than the Home Run, Jeter was really useless in November to the Yanks.
Especially since they lost to the Diamondbacks that year.
santadevil said:
You act as though a walkoff home run in a World Series game is trivial.
Also, the home run happened as the clock rang out midnight during his at bat. And it was the first time baseball had been played in November.
But don't let any of that get in the way of some Jeter hatred.
I believe the following are leaders & trailers in November WPA:
- Tony Womack 0.455
- Alex Rodriguez 0.366
- Hideki Matsui 0.362
- Johnny Damon 0.348
- Pedro Feliz 0.337
- Jay Bell -0.219
- Pat Burrell -0.219
- Craig Counsell -0.189
- Joge Posada -0.188
- Derek Jeter -0.182
ThePrideofShiner said:
Point out the hatred part of my post.
No one nicknamed Bill Mazeroski "World Series Ending Home Run Hitter" when he ended the 1960 World Series with his homerun.
All the Blue Jay fans I know here in Canada doesn't call Joe Carter "Touch'em All Joe!" because of his walkoff home run to actually win the Series as well in 1993.
But don't let that fanboyism die any time soon.
Reggie was Mr. October, because he hit well in October. Jeter was named Mr. November due to people like you.
He's called Mr. November because he hit a walkoff HR in a game that stretched into November for the first time in MLB history. It stuck. No one's going around assigning nicknames based on baseball-reference research. It's a nickname, it's supposed to be fun.
No one would bat an eye if Mazeroksi's nickname was "Mr. Series Ender" or if Joe Carter was called "Touch'em All Joe." Reggie Jackson is called Mr. October because there's been plenty of October baseball, and he was the best. Except, if you head back to baseball-reference you'll probably find that he wasn't, you know, literally the best...
No one would bat an eye if Mazeroksi's nickname was "Mr. Series Ender" or if Joe Carter was called "Touch'em All Joe." Reggie Jackson is called Mr. October because there's been plenty of October baseball, and he was the best. Except, if you head back to baseball-reference you'll probably find that he wasn't, you know, literally the best...
I find it interesting that Mike Trout, Pujols and a lot of other stars didn't hit much in the playoffs and did not get the A-Rod treatment from the media for failing in October. Mr. Kershaw is starting to develop a track record of post-season failure, at least in comparison to his dominating regular season efforts. Why is he bullet-proof?
The closest we came to A-Rod treatment was when Puig struck out 7 times in a row and got benched by Mattingly. Puig definitely has an A-Rod aura about him.
The closest we came to A-Rod treatment was when Puig struck out 7 times in a row and got benched by Mattingly. Puig definitely has an A-Rod aura about him.
I just saw on MLB network and while I shouldn't be surprised, it showed a stat that Jeter is 3rd all time in post season home runs,(20) 3 ahead of Papi.(17) I realize Jeter played in 7 million playoff games and all that, but I was still surprised to see him that high on the list.
If someone made a bet with me and asked who had more, Jeter or Papi, I would have lost money.
If someone made a bet with me and asked who had more, Jeter or Papi, I would have lost money.
I honestly don't know what you're talking about. What is the "A-Rod treatment"? Whatever it is, it's certainly not because he has not hit well in the playoffs at the end of his career.
Mike Trout has played one career playoff series, do you want the population of Orange County to burn him in effigy? I live in LA, and a lot of people are killing Kershaw for his early-career postseason failure. Barry Bonds was crushed by the national media for his playoff failures for the first fifteen years of his career.
Mike Trout has played one career playoff series, do you want the population of Orange County to burn him in effigy? I live in LA, and a lot of people are killing Kershaw for his early-career postseason failure. Barry Bonds was crushed by the national media for his playoff failures for the first fifteen years of his career.
Nope:JohntheBaptist said:
RJ: .278/.358/.527, 14 2B, 1 3B, 18 HR, 48 RBI, 41 R
DO: .295/.409/.553, 21 2B, 2 3B, 17 HR, 60 RBI, 51 R
Edit: shorter
For the guy whose most memorable postseason at-bat in my mind is the bases loaded 9th inning looking K on that filthy Wainwright curve ball to end the 2006 NLCS? Awesome!
TheYaz67 said:
That's pretty much the premise of this SoE article on Beltran last year with the headline of ... wait for it ... Mr. October.
Van Everyman said:
Perhaps we should put these numbers, and all players' numbers, in context? Without looking it up I'm assuming that the run scoring environment in the 2000s was not the same as the run scoring environment in the 70s.
TheYaz67 said:
Come on. He was unbelievable in the postseason for the Astros in 2004 and has a lifetime postseason OPS of 1.128. The guy has always produced in the playoffs. 1 K doesn't change that.
Smiling Joe Hesketh said:
Oh I know, I was joking somewhat - I know he hit a number of clutch HR's and the such during many an October - it was what made that looking K so shocking and memorable, because of anyone on either of those teams he was precisely who you both would have wanted up there, and the guy you were sure would at least not go down looking with bases loaded given his great postseason performances....
Smiling Joe Hesketh said:
It absolutely does not change that.
At the same time, I was very proud of this game thread post from last year's World Series right after Wong was picked off: