"Just an iconic player, he even transcends baseball. We could almost say what does he mean to America?" - Rudy Giuliani
Jeter ceremony this Sunday, number being retired?
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That is so ridiculous. I'm beginning to hope there's torrential rains that last weekend in Boston so those games don't get played and the ball washing of Jeter at Fenway never happens. I was at Reggie Jackson's last game in Boston, with the A's, I think in 1987. He got a standing O with his last at bat. A fitting, appropriate tribute.
Regarding Posada's quote, I can't remember where I heard it but of all the players who to have 1000 plate appearances or more with the Yankees, Jeter's OPS ranked something like 38th.
And that's not even getting into his range at SS.
And that's not even getting into his range at SS.
Jeter's best OPS+ was 153 (1999). That ranks #66 among Yankees seasons all-time.
His next highest is 132 (2009). That's 164th among NYY seasons all-time.
Right now, his career OPS+ is 115 - tied for 496th all-time (with. among others, Dave Kingman, Brian McCann, Nick Swisher and Dustin Pedroia).
His next highest is 132 (2009). That's 164th among NYY seasons all-time.
Right now, his career OPS+ is 115 - tied for 496th all-time (with. among others, Dave Kingman, Brian McCann, Nick Swisher and Dustin Pedroia).
A generation of Little Leaguers sticking their palms in the ump's face while they dig in..........?SemperFidelisSox said:
Not even the devil rays throw at 260 hitters.The Gray Eagle said:
(He really is hitting 260...)
I seriously don't get the Jeter hate. I understand mocking the stink that is the Yankees profit whoring of Jeter's last season. But really - that's just the Yankees being the Yankees. They are a loud, obnoxious, gaudy organization with a fan base to match. This is like TMZ posting nip slips for their audience. The Yankees are doing what they do. As far as I'm concerned, the only thing I wish for is that Jeter's retirement improves the Yankees on the field. I hope the Sox improve even more. Nothing was better than Sox-Yankees 2003 to 2005. I can't even remember the last Sox-Yankees game that really mattered or even felt like it mattered all of which coincided with Jeter sucking.
I wonder what goes through Jeter's mind when people say shit like Posada's "best Yankee ever" quote. Jeter's a smart guy and he knows that's total bullshit. I'd love to know what numbers people are looking at when they say stuff like what Posada and Rudy said. They must be privy to stats that the rest of us can't see.
Someone just told me that some of the NYC subways had a "2" on them yesterday instead of their usual line number. Is that right? That can't be right.
Someone just told me that some of the NYC subways had a "2" on them yesterday instead of their usual line number. Is that right? That can't be right.
terrynever said:
Including Jordan in the ceremonies (per Nike's demand I assume) is beyond crass commercialism.
Lowrielicious said:
Fun fact: ARod was actually hitting .278 at the time. Varitek was batting .276. Varitek hit .240 over the next 7 seasons.
Harry Hooper said:
Jordan is the titular head of the Nike subsidiary that is pimping the "Re2pect" campaign. So, yeah ...
Posada is like a lot of us. He thinks the world began when he was born, or when he started playing baseball as a professional. The only greatest conversation Jeter fits into is the one listing greatest Yankee shortstops. He wins that one hands-down because he played for 20 seasons and consistently hit over .300 until his age 39 season.
The word "icon" is applicable to Jeter because the word, in a sports context, speaks to the "face" of a team, or a sport. Icon doesn't mean the best, just something enduring that is good. Jeter did endure. His consistency is what earned him the respect of his teammates and opponents over the years.
So there is the word that best describes Jeter's baseball career: Consistency. It's not a glamorous word. Among his fellow shortstops, he never had the power of A-Rod nor the hitting skills of Nomar, who was a joy to watch swing the bat for six seasons. Jeter just outlasted all the guys who came up around the same time. And at some point around 10 years ago, Bud Selig and his marketing pals decided they had to make Jeter the face of baseball. Because ... who else out there had a clean image?
The word "icon" is applicable to Jeter because the word, in a sports context, speaks to the "face" of a team, or a sport. Icon doesn't mean the best, just something enduring that is good. Jeter did endure. His consistency is what earned him the respect of his teammates and opponents over the years.
So there is the word that best describes Jeter's baseball career: Consistency. It's not a glamorous word. Among his fellow shortstops, he never had the power of A-Rod nor the hitting skills of Nomar, who was a joy to watch swing the bat for six seasons. Jeter just outlasted all the guys who came up around the same time. And at some point around 10 years ago, Bud Selig and his marketing pals decided they had to make Jeter the face of baseball. Because ... who else out there had a clean image?
