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OMNFG waddalooozer WMB is for bangin' some wickit hawt slut u suck dick will lololololz #smh #profits
 

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I agree with Kirk.

It's kind of weak that the defense of the cohabitation just boils down to "who cares?" and "it doesn't matter."

Why can't we expect more? A broadcast that doesn't condescend to us and engage in constant farce? We're all psyched to be watching a couple chat it up about the game on the Fenway infield after a big win?

Then it's: obviously NESN sucks - it's the house organ. Because the Sox own it. Just like the Boston Globe.

Which is different because.

Basically, when the only opposing argument is "settle down, francis," well, Kirk wins.
 

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Find me the hard hitting local franchise broadcast network and I'll show you a company about to go bankrupt.
 
NESN doesn't suck because the team owns it, NESN sucks because they show the game the way the ratings make them show it.  They could show a SoSH quality broadcast, with advanced statistics, etc, and a game that currently attracks 500,000 viewers would instead attract 50,000 viewers.
 
And the Globe has been owned by the Sox for exactly zero days during the time the Globe has covered the Sox in anything beyond the offseason.
 

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Slightly off-topic but when did 15% of in-game nonsense with Jenny/Heidi/Tina plus superfluous non-Sox/Bruins programming = "NESN sucks"?

Honestly, people don't realize how bad most local standards are for this kind of thing. The Red Sox and Bruins have as good of a broadcast and analysis product as you could hope. Other towns have GARBAGE in this department. To the extent that Dirty Water TV, etc. are kind of useless is beside the point.

As for Dellgate, I'm generally with Kirk in that this is not a good precedent. Abby Chin's comments are great. Imagine she feels pretty strongly about this to speak out on the record about a fellow local reporter.

Also noted in that article is this:

And it's not as if this is a situation that is entirely new to the folks over at NESN, as there is some history with this position and conflicts involving players. A plan of action should have already been in place.


Whisper campaign around this aspect of things is brutal.
 

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It's kind of weak that the defense of the cohabitation just boils down to "who cares?" and "it doesn't matter."

Why can't we expect more? A broadcast that doesn't condescend to us and engage in constant farce? We're all psyched to be watching a couple chat it up about the game on the Fenway infield after a big win?
 
 
Because this dustup is the dictionary definition of "it doesn't matter". Why do you watch NESN? To see your favorite baseball squadron play another baseball squadron, right? And NESN does this well, because the Red Sox are on 162 out of 162 games a year. Who cares if the third baseman is currently having premarital sex with the in-game reporter. Are you afraid that Jenny Dell won't have the stones to rip her boyfriend? I have news for you, Jenny Dell isn't going to rip anyone. Ever. You are not going to get an unbiased opinion from Jenny Dell. Nor will you get one from Jerry Remy or Don Orsillo. The reason is simple, they work for NESN.
 
When NESN employees give unbiased opinions, they are shown the door (like Sean McDonough). And this isn't a NESN situation, it happens at every single cable station in the world. Turn on the MLB Channel, no one is ripping Bud Selig for the way they handled the ARod thing. Turn on the NFL Network and tell me how many times Roger Goodell gets hammered. Same thing with the YES Network and the Yankees or any other network that is owned by a team or league.
 
The unbiased in-game reporter or announcer is a myth.
 

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I wonder if Kirk thinks it's a coincidence or just lack of competency that Dell, who is as close to the team if not closer than any reporter in the country, has never once broken a story. Ditto for Heidi, Tina, Hazel Mae, etc. Put two and two together, Kirk.
Kirk Minihane is just trying to justify the seriousness of his own job.

Sports "journalists" are not news reporters, they are entertainers. It's been clear that many sports journalists choose to talk and write about the narrative that will generate most viewers and clicks, so they have an inbuilt conflict of interest. Examples: CHB each week. ESPN coverage of NBA fouls (there is none). Pats coverage on taping/Spygate. CBS/ESPN/NBC commentators being told by producers to play up certain storylines.

Given that it's an entertainment industry, this is like Brad Pitt getting together with Angelina Jolie - it doesn't change their fundamental commitment to entertaining people. Though you might not want them working together because of the usual workplace dating issues. (In other words this relationship produces larger issues for coworkers- players and NESN people- than for viewers)

Caveats: I do think disclosure is good regardless.
Edit: yes to JMOH. While clearly true at NESN, the bias extends to most outlets that depend on sports popularity like SI,NBC,ESPN.
 

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Sports journalists are entertainers 90% of the time, sure. But in the modern age of so much money being made in sports, there are now investigative stories that at a minimum expose corruption or cheating (college boosters bribing, PED use, Chinese gymnasts being 10 years old or thereabouts).

Also, of greater importance, are stories to do with injury (concussions, that great NY Times series about the tragic life of a kid groomed to be an NHL goon).

Of course, jenny dell works in the toy department.
 

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Taaaaake it easy Will.  Do not feed the trolls.
 
 
Ordinarily I would agree. But each time WMB tweets, it increases the chance that he mistakenly posts some of the awesome pictures/videos that you just know are on his phone.
 
To me, this issue is pretty simple. Jenny is Vanna White, not Bob Woodward. That's not a knock on Jenny -- it's the role she was hired to play. If she wants date WMB -- or Pat Sajak -- who cares? It doesn't affect my ability to watch the game or glean insight from her post-game, on-field interviews. If anything, it probably makes WMB happy, and if that makes him a better baseball player, I'm all for it. 
 

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Ordinarily I would agree. But each time WMB tweets, it increases the chance that he mistakenly posts some of the awesome pictures/videos that you just know are on his phone.
 
To me, this issue is pretty simple. Jenny is Vanna White, not Bob Woodward. That's not a knock of Jenny -- it's the role she was hired to play. If she wants date WMB -- or Pat Sajak -- who cares? It doesn't affect my ability to watch the game or glean insight from her post-game, on-field interviews. If anything, it probably makes WMB happy, and if that makes him a better baseball player, I'm all for it. 
 
 
Interestingly enough, this is one reason why these sort of relationships are problematic. There's no real reason why a player should be in a position of choosing whether to jump to the defense of someone covering the team.  [hypothetical alert]Is he going to start treating Pete Abraham like shit because fellow-Glober Chad Finn points out that Jenny can't string together 2 coherent sentences in a row?
 
Will should let her fight her own battles. This goes back to Finn's original point (and one that Abby Chin made): relationships like these make it difficult for those women in sports who see "sideline reporter" as a stepping stone to something better/different in sports; or something to be avoided altogether to avoid the pigeon-hole.  "Now her boyfriend is defending her" doesn't help.
 
Or maybe she doesn't give a shit about what anybody thinks. Not "journalism ethics" people; not other women in the business. I suppose that would be too bad on some level, but that's her call.
 

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Interestingly enough, this is one reason why these sort of relationships are problematic. There's no real reason why a player should be in a position of choosing whether to jump to the defense of someone covering the team.  [hypothetical alert]Is he going to start treating Pete Abraham like shit because fellow-Glober Chad Finn points out that Jenny can't string together 2 coherent sentences in a row?
 
Will should let her fight her own battles. This goes back to Finn's original point (and one that Abby Chin made): relationships like these make it difficult for those women in sports who see "sideline reporter" as a stepping stone to something better/different in sports; or something to be avoided altogether to avoid the pigeon-hole.  "Now her boyfriend is defending her" doesn't help.
 
 
Two things:
 
1. If Will Middlebrooks isn't holding a grudge against Peter Abraham for some of the things Dan Shaughnessy has written about him (Middlebrooks) or even what Abraham wrote, I doubt he's going to hold something against Abraham for something that Chad Finn wrote about his girlfriend.
 
2. There might be some examples that I'm not thinking of (Robin Roberts maybe?) but when has a sideline reporter worked he way up to something better/different in sports? And when you say better/different, I'm assuming that you mean something more substantial (reporter, writer, studio analyst) than a sideline reporter. I think that the high-water mark for these women are studio host, a la Heidi Wattney at MLB Network. If you're a serious about journalism (man or woman) you don't take the sideline reporter gig, everyone knows it's a complete BS job.
 

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The unbiased in-game reporter or announcer is a myth.
 
I don't believe anyone is making this argument. Sideline reporters are hood ornaments; it's a BS job. 
 
The issue is one of professionalism. NESN is a house organ coated in a veneer of professionalism. They sell "Hall of Fame" analysts, clear views of home plate, announcers who pay attention (mostly), and most of all, the baseball team. It is an operation in making the Red Sox look good: look like a product the viewer wants to spend money on, look like a product advertisers will get their money's worth from. 
 
The hood ornament fucking the third baseman is not professional. It sells no tickets. It sells no advertising. It makes some very small percentage of the fan base say "good for him, she's hot" and some larger, but still statistically insignificant percentage of the fan base say "ewww, that's not something I want my kids to know". It has the potential to adversely affect "The Product" and can do nothing to sell "The Product". 
 
Dell's behavior also makes it harder for Abby Chin to be taken seriously because too many people don't differentiate between the useless hood ornament and an actual, working, professional journalist. That's a different aspect and I think Dell's an asshole but she's entitled to be an asshole on that issue if she chooses. 
 

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soxfan121 said:
 
I don't believe anyone is making this argument. Sideline reporters are hood ornaments; it's a BS job. 
 
The issue is one of professionalism. NESN is a house organ coated in a veneer of professionalism. They sell "Hall of Fame" analysts, clear views of home plate, announcers who pay attention (mostly), and most of all, the baseball team. It is an operation in making the Red Sox look good: look like a product the viewer wants to spend money on, look like a product advertisers will get their money's worth from. 
 
The hood ornament fucking the third baseman is not professional. It sells no tickets. It sells no advertising. It makes some very small percentage of the fan base say "good for him, she's hot" and some larger, but still statistically insignificant percentage of the fan base say "ewww, that's not something I want my kids to know". It has the potential to adversely affect "The Product" and can do nothing to sell "The Product". 
 
Dell's behavior also makes it harder for Abby Chin to be taken seriously because too many people don't differentiate between the useless hood ornament and an actual, working, professional journalist. That's a different aspect and I think Dell's an asshole but she's entitled to be an asshole on that issue if she chooses. 
 
The bolded part is the issue I have and seems to be the problem most other women I've discussed this with have. In theory, I couldn't care less who WMB or Jenny Dell is schtupping but it does reinforce that stereotype that the Abby Chins of the world have to fight off every day. So while Dell absolutely is entitled to not care about that aftermath of her choices it's a legitimate complaint for others to voice without being told that they're wringing their hands over nothing.
 

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Two things:
 
1. If Will Middlebrooks isn't holding a grudge against Peter Abraham for some of the things Dan Shaughnessy has written about him (Middlebrooks) or even what Abraham wrote, I doubt he's going to hold something against Abraham for something that Chad Finn wrote about his girlfriend.
 
2. There might be some examples that I'm not thinking of (Robin Roberts maybe?) but when has a sideline reporter worked he way up to something better/different in sports? And when you say better/different, I'm assuming that you mean something more substantial (reporter, writer, studio analyst) than a sideline reporter. I think that the high-water mark for these women are studio host, a la Heidi Wattney at MLB Network. If you're a serious about journalism (man or woman) you don't take the sideline reporter gig, everyone knows it's a complete BS job.
 
As for 1.  It seems as though he's already tweeted in her defense.
 
As for 2, I think you have a point about the job. Doris Burke does some p-b-p and color along with sideline work.  Erin Andrews was terrible at the desk for Fox college FB.  Kathryn Tappen never did the sideline gig, as far as I can recall.
 
Its TV, so as highwater marks go, youre probably right...studio job is it. And while its a nice thought to say "everyone knows the sideline gig is BS," it would take some serious stones for some 25 year old to turn down the gig because she wants a studio spot. There is another possibility....in sports TV, the sideline gig is the testing zone . . .  work hard, do well within its stupid confines, and we'll find a better place for you.  And for those of you who suck at it, Thanks for letting us know that this is as far as you're getting with us." And on the third hand, I doubt that athletes see much of a distinction between what, say Jenny Dell does, and what Amalie Benjamin does (did?). To most players (or at least a plurailty) they're just "women hanging around the team,"  without too many fine distinctions made about career paths. In that sense, even if we agree that the Dells and Benjamins inhabit 2 completely different universes, if the players dont see the difference, then they are more apt to treat all women on the scene as potential arm candy.
 
In the end, I agree with soxfan121, it just seems "unprofessional." You can leave "journalism" out of the equation, or "ethics" or anything like that.
 

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The issue is one of professionalism. NESN is a house organ coated in a veneer of professionalism. They sell "Hall of Fame" analysts, clear views of home plate, announcers who pay attention (mostly), and most of all, the baseball team. It is an operation in making the Red Sox look good: look like a product the viewer wants to spend money on, look like a product advertisers will get their money's worth from.
 
 
We all know that's crap though. Think of all the analysts that NESN trots out and aside from Eckersley, who has said anything even remotely controversial or even interesting about the Red Sox? Even in 2012 when the Sox were complete dog shit, no one said shit. It was all, "Gosh, well the Sox are really giving a solid effort despite the fact that they're 132 games out of first. You have to appreciate that, TC!"
 
It sells no tickets. It sells no advertising. It makes some very small percentage of the fan base say "good for him, she's hot" and some larger, but still statistically insignificant percentage of the fan base say "ewww, that's not something I want my kids to know". It has the potential to adversely affect "The Product" and can do nothing to sell "The Product".
 
 
Right, but it's not doing the opposite. You think 1-800-54-GIANT or WB Mason is going to stop advertising with NESN because of Jenny Dell? And seriously, "The think of the children!" defense. Take it easy, Helen Lovejoy. Come on.
 

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How about Hannah Storm?  I seem to remember her doing some sideline stuff for NBA on NBC before moving to the studio there.  She hosted one of the network morning shows for a while before going to ESPN where she's their lead anchor on the morning Sportscenter.
 

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In the end, I agree with soxfan121, it just seems "unprofessional." You can leave "journalism" out of the equation, or "ethics" or anything like that.


Agreed. And aside from NESN, I don't think you want this because it could be a distraction if they break up or even if one of Will's teammates makes a comment about her fantastic chest, let's say. There are 24 other alpha dudes in the clubhouse, and having Dell around the team nonstop seems to present a flip comment/locker room friction likelihood, or at least possibility, that they'd rather avoid.
 

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The fact that it's such a meaningless position seems to be the exact reason why NESN should move her to some other gig. No one cares if it's her or some other eye candy doing the gig so why wouldn't they avoid any perceived issue. No ones gonna give a shit if they move her to the Patriots or Bruins.
 

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The fact that it's such a meaningless position seems to be the exact reason why NESN should move her to some other gig. No one cares if it's her or some other eye candy doing the gig so why wouldn't they avoid any perceived issue. No ones gonna give a shit if they move her to the Patriots or Bruins.
 
Unless, of course, her contract stipulates that she work specifically for the Red Sox.
 

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Unless, of course, her contract stipulates that she work specifically for the Red Sox.
 
It's not like I watch a ton of NESN programming outside of Red Sox and occasional Bruins broadcasts, but does she do anything that isn't Red Sox related for NESN?
 
Edit to add...figures, as I typed that, Jenny tweeted a photo from Tom Brady's press conference which I presume she is covering for NESN.  So I guess she does do some work away from the Sox.
 

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Merkle's Boner said:
The fact that it's such a meaningless position seems to be the exact reason why NESN should move her to some other gig. No one cares if it's her or some other eye candy doing the gig so why wouldn't they avoid any perceived issue. No ones gonna give a shit if they move her to the Patriots or Bruins.
Patriots or Bruins fans would.
 

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I think NESN does an exceptionally good job. They make Red Sox baseball fun to watch. They've been progressive about switching to new camera angles, using the pitch tracker, etc. The game broadcasts are done very well. They're fun to watch and DO + Remy have great chemistry. In a tough spot over the last few years because of the Remy disasters (health and his awful son), they've plugged the holes really well.
 
In modern broadcasting, sideline reporter is essentially a thing you need. You need a person who can sit in front of the camera, read spots for promotional events, interview players, and whatever else. Since the demographic is lonely adult men with three hours to kill every night, it's not really surprising that sideline reporters, who get a lot of camera time, are young attractive women.
 
Single attractive people having sex with other single attractive people is not the end of the world.
 

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1. We all know that's crap though. Think of all the analysts that NESN trots out and aside from Eckersley, who has said anything even remotely controversial or even interesting about the Red Sox? Even in 2012 when the Sox were complete dog shit, no one said shit. It was all, "Gosh, well the Sox are really giving a solid effort despite the fact that they're 132 games out of first. You have to appreciate that, TC!"
 
 
2. Right, but it's not doing the opposite. You think 1-800-54-GIANT or WB Mason is going to stop advertising with NESN because of Jenny Dell? 3. And seriously, "The think of the children!" defense. Take it easy, Helen Lovejoy. Come on.
 
1. I hate to do this but your first paragraph is invalid. The word "veneer" has a pretty specific meaning, encompassing all of the things you've gone on to use in your post. I completely agree with that first paragraph - it's why I chose the phrasing I did in my post. 
 
2. No, I do not. But there's nothing but downside risk to the situation. There is a 0.0 chance that the WMB-Dell romance raises ad rates 1 cent. There is a non-zero chance that if something unlikely happens (public breakup caught on a cell phone camera?) that ad revenues or public perception of the team/network could be affected. There is literally no upside at all (except for WMB/Dell personally) and nothing but potential risk for their employers. No one is buying a ticket because WMB is shtupping the sideline bimbo. There's a small (again, said this above) small chance that someone doesn't buy a ticket because of it. 
 
3. Scoff if you'd like but those people buy tickets. But if you'd prefer, we can shelve the potential for Helen Lovejoy to be offended and simply reference the "pink hat" segment of fans. The rumor about the previous eye candy breaking up Varitek's marriage (true or not) was an issue for many of them. They buy merchandise, they buy tickets, they watch games and they aren't children. Heck, some of them were just jealous they didn't get the chance to break up Varitek's marriage. But ANYTHING that doesn't sell the product and could keep buyers from buying again should be minimized or eliminated. 
 

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1. I hate to do this but your first paragraph is invalid. The word "veneer" has a pretty specific meaning, encompassing all of the things you've gone on to use in your post. I completely agree with that first paragraph - it's why I chose the phrasing I did in my post. 
 
2. No, I do not. But there's nothing but downside risk to the situation. There is a 0.0 chance that the WMB-Dell romance raises ad rates 1 cent. There is a non-zero chance that if something unlikely happens (public breakup caught on a cell phone camera?) that ad revenues or public perception of the team/network could be affected. There is literally no upside at all (except for WMB/Dell personally) and nothing but potential risk for their employers. No one is buying a ticket because WMB is shtupping the sideline bimbo. There's a small (again, said this above) small chance that someone doesn't buy a ticket because of it. 
 
3. Scoff if you'd like but those people buy tickets. But if you'd prefer, we can shelve the potential for Helen Lovejoy to be offended and simply reference the "pink hat" segment of fans. The rumor about the previous eye candy breaking up Varitek's marriage (true or not) was an issue for many of them. They buy merchandise, they buy tickets, they watch games and they aren't children. Heck, some of them were just jealous they didn't get the chance to break up Varitek's marriage. But ANYTHING that doesn't sell the product and could keep buyers from buying again should be minimized or eliminated. 
 
What if Middlebrooks is happy because he's dating her, and because he's happy, he hits more dingers? People love dingers.
 

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1. I hate to do this but your first paragraph is invalid. The word "veneer" has a pretty specific meaning, encompassing all of the things you've gone on to use in your post. I completely agree with that first paragraph - it's why I chose the phrasing I did in my post.
 
 
Right, but you know the veneer isn't true and NESN does too. In fact, I'd say that the majority of NESN watchers know that too. So no, the paragraph isn't invalid especially since you gave it as a possible reason why two consenting adults shouldn't be dating.
 
NESN Boss (to Dell and Middlebrooks): Sorry you two, you can't date.
Dell or Middlebrooks: Why?
NESN Boss: Because it will ruin NESN's professionalism. We've worked very hard to maintain the dignity of New England sports and the Red Sox are no frivolous matter.
Dell: What professionalism? Gives a list of examples of NESN professionalism: Heidi Wattney Eats Out the AL (parks), the Pizza Throwing Asshole, Where is He Now?, Remy and Wally, Jerry Remy's Kids Do the Damnedest Things.
 
And I would assume that since Dell and Middlebrooks have gone public with this, then there is nothing in the NESN rules of conduct that says on-air talent can not date on-field talent.
 
2. No, I do not. But there's nothing but downside risk to the situation. There is a 0.0 chance that the WMB-Dell romance raises ad rates 1 cent. There is a non-zero chance that if something unlikely happens (public breakup caught on a cell phone camera?) that ad revenues or public perception of the team/network could be affected. There is literally no upside at all (except for WMB/Dell personally) and nothing but potential risk for their employers. No one is buying a ticket because WMB is shtupping the sideline bimbo. There's a small (again, said this above) small chance that someone doesn't buy a ticket because of it.
 
 
So Dell and Middlebrooks, again consenting adults of legal age who entered into this union being of sound mind, have to disregard their happiness because there is .000000000001% chance that one or maybe two people out of the millions of people who live in New England are still so puritanical that they wouldn't buy a Red Sox ticket because Jenny Dell and Will Middlebrooks are French kissing? Seriously? That's insane. Honestly, if this is what pushed this person over the edge then it would be something else. "I don't like that the home uniform sleeves aren't trimmed in red. Fuck that team, I'm not going to Fenway ever again." "Why doesn't Tom Curran wear contact lens, his glasses look stupid. I'm never going to Fenway again!"
 
3. Scoff if you'd like but those people buy tickets. But if you'd prefer, we can shelve the potential for Helen Lovejoy to be offended and simply reference the "pink hat" segment of fans. The rumor about the previous eye candy breaking up Varitek's marriage (true or not) was an issue for many of them. They buy merchandise, they buy tickets, they watch games and they aren't children. Heck, some of them were just jealous they didn't get the chance to break up Varitek's marriage. But ANYTHING that doesn't sell the product and could keep buyers from buying again should be minimized or eliminated.
 
 
So now we have to wage a war against jealousy? Let me know when that battle is won, okay? Guess what, I'm jealous of Shane Victorino and can't play rightfield for the Boston Red Sox. I want at least 150 starts in the field or else I won't support the Red Sox ever again.
 
I know that you're trying to take the opposite side of an argument and are playing devil's advocate, but you should stop. It's tiresome.
 

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What if Middlebrooks is happy because he's dating her, and because he's happy, he hits more dingers? People love dingers.
 
I wonder if its possible to hit dingers while breathing through your eyelids?
 

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I know that you're trying to take the opposite side of an argument and are playing devil's advocate, but you should stop. It's tiresome.
 
No, I'm not playing - I think this is bad for business because it is unprofessional. But since I've been told to stop, I'll let you get back to the non-discussion. 
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-XhyLqC344
 

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No, I'm not playing - I think this is bad for business because it is unprofessional. But since I've been told to stop, I'll let you get back to the non-discussion. 
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-XhyLqC344
 
Wait a second. Before you take your ball and go home, how much money do you think that the Boston Red Sox will lose (ballpark, of course) due to the Dell-Middlebrooks affair? Honest question.
 

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A statistically insignificant amount. Pocket change. 
 
And any ball -> home action is based on the dope slap of "tiresome" and preceding direction. You've made clear you think this is dumb, I agree it is dumb, we disagree about why it is dumb, so ...I'm done.
 

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Will should let her fight her own battles. This goes back to Finn's original point (and one that Abby Chin made): relationships like these make it difficult for those women in sports who see "sideline reporter" as a stepping stone to something better/different in sports; or something to be avoided altogether to avoid the pigeon-hole.  "Now her boyfriend is defending her" doesn't help.
 
Or maybe she doesn't give a shit about what anybody thinks. Not "journalism ethics" people; not other women in the business. I suppose that would be too bad on some level, but that's her call.
 
I think the Abby Chin stuff is overblown.  I feel a little bad for Chin because she seems very earnest.  But if she wanted to be in a profession in which she was taken seriously for her unbiased coverage of the issues, she has to realize that she shouldn't have chosen sports journalism. 
 
The guys who are good at sports journalism from the unbiased reporting point of view are people like Reiss, Field Yates, (and Neumeier?).  Edes and Chad Finn are also good reporters but are mainly columnists; they play up the feel-good aspects of the teams they cover and do so with insight.
 
But the guys that make the money are people like Cowherd, Shaughnessy, Borges, Callahan, Cafardo, Rapoport, Florio, Peter King, Ordway, Murray Chass, Stephen A Smith, Rick Reilly, and Skip Bayless.  All of those will bend the truth to choose a "storyline" or "narrative" that they think will generate hits or ratings.  They don't use unbiased reporting; in fact it often seems they have little regard for the truth.  Many of them play a character that people will read or watch. 
 
In an industry where the second group is successful and those attributes are selected for, honest reporting isn't in general valued.  (Guys like Finn can succeed for a while and make the SOSH community happy, but they're swimming upstream if they want to make the big time and be an ESPN commentator or national writer).    It's just the way it is.  Sorry, Abby; you've got bigger fish to fry in sports journalism than Jenny Dell.
 

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I think the Abby Chin stuff is overblown.  I feel a little bad for Chin because she seems very earnest.  But if she wanted to be in a profession in which she was taken seriously for her unbiased coverage of the issues, she has to realize that she shouldn't have chosen sports journalism
 
 

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doldmoose34 wrote:
that last line had me howling
Yes because what is funnier than dudes murdering their girlfriends?

As for Abby Chin, crystalline is totally right. If the bitch can't handle the heat, get out of the profession. Amirite?

Good argument, bro.
 

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But she was conspicuously absent from NESN's "Red Sox On Campus" at Northeastern last Wednesday evening with Farrell, Cherington, Lucchino and Gomes. Tom Caron hosted while Jamie Erdahl and Leah Hextall handled audience questions. And it wasn't a day off for her -- she and Jamison Coyle hosted NESN Sports Today that same night.
 
So perhaps she's staying with the network but they're removing her from the Sox beat?
 

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https://twitter.com/JennyDellNESN/status/458599646869606400
 
Is this the end of Jenny as a sports personality?
 
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