Oh, I can be irrational if you'd like. I promise I will begin treating every player with the same microscopic analysis of every mistake they make in game threads and in the post game analysis that Jaylen gets around here. Even after a win on the road against a playoff team. I'm happy to call it like I see it too.
This is true. I was confusing series, when Tatum was guarding Tucker in the Sixers series (which was driving me insane, mind you, because Jayson Tatum is wasted guarding PJ Tucker) and Brown was running around with Harden.
You’re one of my favorite posters on the board. I agree with what you’re saying. I point them out and compare them, not to drag one down but to point out the hypocrisy.
Honestly, and this is a boring answer. I tend to stay out of GT’s during games, because they are so over the top reactionary, and it drives me crazy lol.
I don't think that's a boring answer at all. I fully admit a lot of my posts on the main board come off as over the top, following what happened the night before in a game thread, and that's something I need to probably deal with better. It's just so non-stop that it's hard to get passed it sometimes, so when it does bleed over to the main board, especially following a win like last night, on the road against a good team in which Jaylen didn't play poorly outside a 2 minute period, it bothers me and I should just let it go. If the guy played last night like he played game 7 last year, I wouldn't have said a word and piled on, but man, he didn't play bad last night. The whole team played really good defensively, the Knicks were just stroking it from deep and on offense he did what he needed to do, nothing more, nothing less (outside of that 2 minute stretch).
I am one of the most ridiculously stubborn people you will ever have the pleasure of interacting with. Because of that, I have to stay away from arguing about sports for the most part. Plus weed is exceptional at keeping me calm now. I love a healthy back and forth, but once it gets fiesty, I gotta bail lol.
I think one issue is not all turnovers are created equal. playmaking in general is a distribution of risk and reward. high level playmaking will generate turnovers as a side effect of taking risks to create great shots for teammates. Steve Nash making turnovers while nashing is not the same as another guy making turnovers by, say, committing a ton of illegal screens.
I don't necessarily disagree. Jaylen had two turnovers last night, one was exactly what you describe, he was trying to thread a needle to Holiday underneath and it didn't happen. The other was the lazy inbounds.
I agree with you but here’s how I’d describe it…
I think you responded to the wrong post, the one that you responded to has nothing to do with Tatum not being criticized.
Those posts sound very funny. And it was the combination of Jrue Holiday and Tatum opening space for Zinger. Also, Mac Jones has no talent around him. That excuse doesn’t work for your Cal Teddy Bear.
Cal teddy bear is pretty good.
The post you are perseverating on was about Zinger playing with complementary players. I was a TimeLord/Smart Stan so these new guys have a way to go for me.
Okay, your answer is right here. Tatum shows up more consistently, and often in bigger ways, so he has more leeway than Brown. STILL he gets criticized quite a bit for turnovers, cold streaks, bitching to the refs, and leadership. See my posts below from someone who's a supposed Tatum stan.
LOL, you found 6 posts that you criticized Tatum on in about 6 months, and in four of them, you managed to squeeze in shots at Brown too.
Like I said, I don't post that much, so you won't find me having a lot of posts about any topic. And of course I'm taking shots at Brown too - they're the two best players on the team! They've had similar challenges in the last two very frustrating playoffs! What planet are you living on?
Tatum caught plenty of shit last year IMO. I get very frustrated with him too.
Yeah, Tatum caught a whole ball of shit during that Philly series and the year prior in the finals when he played poorly (although potentially injury-related). Shoot, I’m old enough to remember when KG caught shit in 2007 playoffs when he was being oddly passive offensively. I don’t think this board treats anyone as untouchable - maybe if it existed in 1986 we would have with Larry Joe Bird.
Maybe if you don't post that much (or read that much) you're missing what we're saying then.
I think the problem is that you're taking game threads personally. I don't understand why you're doing that. It's like expecting well-thought out, unemotional opinions at a sports bar.
Probably true, but let's not act like there weren't two different threads on the main board, within hours of the game ending almost devoted to the same discussion about Jaylen that was in the game thread (and the game thread itself was still active regarding Jaylen at that point too). I mean, if folks want to bash Jaylen in the game threads and the post game threads, it doesn't leave a ton to respond to about anything else. I was in the game thread all night, although didn't make a ton of posts and I'm pretty sure my first one regarding Jaylen wasn't until pretty late in the game (and all of my others happened post-game in the game thread). I spent most of the time praising Tatum and a few other plays, and shitting all over the refs, because they were ass and I hate this new flopping rule.
Oh SoSH ‘86 would have had plenty to say about Larry Legend.
Jaylen has one big fault on defense (off-ball, where he can get caught ball watching). However, I do think it gets lost that he is very good on-ball. He also looks to have bulked up and did a good job defending Bam in the perimeter the other night
For a guy with his size and athleticism, he also has a tendency to get picked off a bit too easily by screens (both on and off ball). The off ball issues probably never go away (and are mostly covered up by the rest of the team).
He's also eaten Pascal Siakam alive in one-on-one match-ups. My fondest wish for Jaylen, now that he has the bag, is for him to prioritize the defense and let the offense come in the flow of the game - and it will come.
The screen thing is very true, especially when you see him actually fight through them when it’s clearly a point of emphasis (like he did against Harden).
It's super weird, because his eFG and TS are basically constant over that time period.
His TS has been remarkably consistent lol, despite the fluctuations that the league tends to have. Since becoming a focal point of an offense
I agree with the last, I'm hoping he continues to be more aggressive taking the ball to the hoop. This year, wicked small sample obviously, he's only averaging 2.6 C&S 3's per game. The last 4 years have been 4.3/4.9/4.8/4.8.
He’s numbers from the corners have had the same thing, it’s so weird lol.
Gorman’s future replacement with a good call, saying that JB climbed the Stifle Tower.
I haven’t checked, but my guess is he’s taking a lot more contested catch and shoots and he used to get wide open catch and shoot looks.
This is fair. Maybe a MOD could move all of the Jaylen Summer24 Fake Trades into this thread.
I’d cross out Grant. Everything he’s done in his career has shown that he’s far more interested in his own stats than sacrificing to be on a winning team.
