10000%.
Yet another data point as to why it was so important to move Marcus and give those minutes to White this season. Jaylen knowing he can kick it out with shooters everywhere and the ball not consistently ending up in Marcus' hands for an open brick has been huge. White also plays with pace, he pushes the ball up court, creating more transition (or even just 2on2 type) opportunities for Jaylen.
I used to love Marcus. By the end I still liked him. By the time he was traded for KP+ I was ready to drive him to the airport. Now, given the benefit of hindsight and seeing the downstream effects of moving on from him, I......would have driven him to the airport faster.
+100
Sorry about the sickness.
I’m using CTG, which filters out garbage time as you obviously know lol.
Huh, I don't think Jaylen/Jayson/DWhite minutes would ever qualify for CTG's garbage time definition though.
yeah, they define it according to how many starters are still in the game, among other things.
They’ve played quite a bit in 20-30 point leads in the 4th quarter this year. I mostly remember because so many people were screaming about Joe not pulling them lol.
Yeah, so even with a 20-30 point lead, it wouldn't count. Anyway, not trying to get bogged down in nitpicking, and I definitely use CTG for team ratings. For starter stats, I *think* PBP is the way to go.
Yup, I think people maybe don't get how good +7 is for a non-#1 option in the minutes the #1 doesn't play.
It’s an incredibly good number. There was some insane opponent shooting variance when it was up to +11/12 or whatever a month or two ago, but even with that stabilizing, anything better than +5 is elite (IMO) for when your top guy is sitting.
It's been so gratifying to see Jaylen perform the way he has on the floor this year, but not only is 80% unrealistic, it sure seems like anything close to it is unrealistic: among players who have shot FTs this year, only Brissett and Mykhailiuk have lower percentages. He's at 71.8% right now (DWhite is almost 90% on the other end), and he has never shot above 76.5% (which he did last year). I don't pretend to know the answer, but I always hold my breath when he's at the stripe.
Yeah, it's one of those weird things, given how good a midrange shooter he is. The only guy who comes to mind like that is Luka: also a good midrange shooter and decent from deep, but only 74% FT for his career (Jaylen is 72%).
He had a qualifier in there. I believe he said that since that Charlotte game that they lost he’s been #1
Yes, we're too quick to forget how worried we were at the start of the year about how he'd adjust to new roles.
It really changes how they can attack defenses. If you play a guy who is at all weak, even if he's 6-6, Jaylen is going to put him into the hoop. And if you have a 6-4 guy with strength, KP will draw fouls on him from 15 feet out all day long. At their best, the Celtics have 3 guys who can just brutalize various types of mismatch.
Agree with pretty much all of this, and will add that assists are at a career high rate (4.0/36) while turnovers are down. Eye test for me agrees with him being more of a facilitator and playmaker. Of course KP and Holiday making shots doesn't hurt those numbers.
The problem with this approach previously was that the guy he was kicking out to was Marcus Smart instead of DWhite or Jrue. On top of that, when you have TL in the game, you have the paint clogged so there was much less of a double team coming from the guy facing the guard at the arc, and instead, TL's guy could just shade over a bit, leading to fallaway jumpers or a kick out to Smart who had a guy closing quicker.
His biceps are freaking enormous, he's really the embodiment of putting in the work. It's been a joy to watch him turn into this version of JB.
There are a ton of springy 19-year olds that come into the league and never fully develop into anything meaningful. I don't want to claim that Brown is the perfect self-made player because let's face it, he's got a great physical profile to be an NBA player, he isn't exactly IT out there. But his hard work and commitment to making improvements each year has allowed him to become such a great player.
Like this post.
This is well said. I'd say that Anunoby is another guy who put in a good amount of work to build on his great athletic profile, but his growth curve has been slower.
This is also well said. It says a lot about Jaylen that he has continued to add to his bag and build out his body past the age when folks usually stop developing. He had a lot to add as a fairly raw guy entering the league, and he has.
Honestly, the Jimmy Butler comp (as a guy who just kept improving well past age 25) is looking better and better these days.
Not a lottery pick and he wasn't quite as physically strong as Jaylen was right out of the gate, but as a prospect, JB always reminded me of Gerald Green. Prototypical wing size, dunk contest athleticism and an above average 3 point shoot, contrasted with a below average handle, non-existent passing skills and limited feel for the game. Very happy JB's career has gone the way it's gone.
Brown is finally showing off his passing chops, similarly to what I’ve seen in his AAU clips. One reason for his development pace was that he was picked by a playoff contender as the third draft pick in the draft, and was slotted into a role. A contender hadn’t been picked that high since the Pistons went Darko. If JB came up on a bad team, he immediately could have developed as a high volume scorer who had to learn to involve others later in his career. Instead, he came up filling a role, season after season, as that role changed from reserve energy wing to 1a next to JT.
JB's shot coming out of college wasn't above-average; it was a real concern IIRC. Green, however, had a pretty decent shot given the fact that he was coming out of high school.
I forgot how much of a concern JB's shot was when he was drafted. I did know that he was bigger/stronger than Green, but assumed some of that was because JB had spent a year in college first. That's not exactly right though, because despite the extra year Green was just a couple months younger, and JB was apparently always a beast - ESPN high school rankings for the class of 2015 listed him at 6'7 220 (Tatum was listed at 6'8 175 lol).
I’ve learned to stop reading any Twitter comments if it’s about race, sexual preference, or basically anything lol.
Is Jaylen the biggest star to enter a dunk contest since Dwight Howard in 2009? Howard entered again in 2020 but was a role player at that point, and multiple big names (Blake Griffin, Donovan Mitchell, Paul George, Demar Derozan) went in the first couple of years before they were really established, but I don't know another all-NBA player in their prime that went in the last dozen years or so.
Yeah, Celtics player with the last name “Brown” against an athletic white guard? No chance!
